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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
Well, that's over. Back to investigating the guy that loves Putin and asked him to hack his political opponent and fired the FBI Director for investigating it. I'm very surprised that a memo written by Nunes and propagated by people like this (and Russian bots) turned out to be less than copacetic. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15686 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On February 01 2018 03:14 Mohdoo wrote: I just wanna see the damn memo. And I want the FBI to clarify what is or is not accurate about it. why do you want to see that? it seems simpler to just go with the obvious: nunes is spouting misleadin trash; so just ignore it entirely for the worthless garbage it is. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On February 01 2018 03:14 Mohdoo wrote: I just wanna see the damn memo. And I want the FBI to clarify what is or is not accurate about it. I want Donald Trump's tax-returns and loan-statements. Those are things we historically should have (less so on the loan-statements, but in Trump's case, with massive foreign loans, they're easily called for). | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
They had their shot to be cooperative with oversight committees. Now, it’s time to release the summary memo and primary source documents supporting it. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 01 2018 03:31 Danglars wrote: https://twitter.com/padman4321/status/958384122572898304 They had their shot to be cooperative with oversight committees. Now, it’s time to release the summary memo and primary source documents supporting it. So we should declassify information every time a house member decides that they want to write a memo about it and threaten to release it over the objection of the DOJ, FBI and the other half of the committee? Because that might not be that fun for conservatives if the Democrats take the House in 2018. But hey, open up Pandora's box if you think it will work out. I hear hope is at the bottom. | ||
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brian
United States9618 Posts
Hey guys i’ve got PROOF that Danglars is an actual robot. he’ll say it’s not true but you can’t believe him because that’s exactly what a robot would say. Check. Mate. yea that’s just not a sane persons method of declassifying data. and people are out there eating this shit up. grossly incompetent. it’s offensive to our collective intelligence that this argument actually has traction. if nunes had the stones to just have it leaked at the start before using it as this absurd tool to further discredit the agency on nothing but his own word, which lacked credibility before the charade, i’d give it a fair read. but to instead use this batshit nonsense as a means to declassify it and rally up a base, compromised clearly of total fools, is not inspiring. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On January 31 2018 22:18 Grumbels wrote: Honestly, a good catchy description of the left-vs-right divide could be: The right loves America, but hates Americans The left hates America, but loves Americans. It's rather oversimplified and sentimental, but there is a grain of truth in it. Yeah I can see that. I quite like it, flaws accepted. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On February 01 2018 03:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Gowdy's new job. https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/958756387038941184 Kind of crazy that one of those spots has been open since 2005. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On February 01 2018 03:31 Danglars wrote: https://twitter.com/padman4321/status/958384122572898304 They had their shot to be cooperative with oversight committees. Now, it’s time to release the summary memo and primary source documents supporting it. How are you still defending the party that sold America out to the russians? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15686 Posts
On February 01 2018 04:04 hunts wrote: How are you still defending the party that sold America out to the russians? Be raised republican --> natural psychology flaws that make people see their parents as particularly good or respectable people --> come to view religion/politics as a part of family identity and thus your own identity --> defend til death. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21667 Posts
On February 01 2018 04:04 hunts wrote: How are you still defending the party that sold America out to the russians? By not believe that is what happened. Just don't pay attention to the flashing neon sign that the latest handing of sanctions represents. | ||
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ChristianS
United States3188 Posts
On February 01 2018 03:31 Danglars wrote: https://twitter.com/padman4321/status/958384122572898304 They had their shot to be cooperative with oversight committees. Now, it’s time to release the summary memo and primary source documents supporting it. As usual, I'm unclear what the allegation is. The current FBI director, Christopher Wray (a Trump appointee, who I assume had nothing to do with either 2016 FISA warrants or the email investigation) apparently opposes releasing the memo because it "contains inaccurate information and paints a false narrative." Is Wray one of the suspected wrongdoers? Or is the tweet you just shared way, way off base? | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On February 01 2018 03:36 Plansix wrote: So we should declassify information every time a house member decides that they want to write a memo about it and threaten to release it over the objection of the DOJ, FBI and the other half of the committee? Because that might not be that fun for conservatives if the Democrats take the House in 2018. But hey, open up Pandora's box if you think it will work out. I hear hope is at the bottom. Way off. The FBI, after fighting oversight, not even acknowledging the requests for information and then flatly denying it, now wants to debase the conclusions. It took the speaker of the house calling them to heel some 4 months after the cycles of stonewalling to get the promises and the ball rolling. They can go fuck themselves at this point. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15686 Posts
On February 01 2018 04:19 Danglars wrote: Way off. The FBI, after fighting oversight, not even acknowledging the requests for information and then flatly denying it, now wants to debase the conclusions. It took the speaker of the house calling them to heel some 4 months after the cycles of stonewalling to get the promises and the ball rolling. They can go fuck themselves at this point. You didn't even address his question lol | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On February 01 2018 04:04 hunts wrote: How are you still defending the party that sold America out to the russians? I thought the narrative was Republicans we’re all up on wild conspiracy theories. Hey, a new Red Scare! That’s the trick—Democrats. | ||
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farvacola
United States18826 Posts
It's always fun when someone can prod Dangles into dropping the pretense of a principled inquiry while revealing the clearly partisan animus beneath. When asked earlier why he thinks the whole of the FBI is tainted, he insisted that wasn't what he was arguing for. Now it's quite obvious that it is, angry pejorative and all. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On February 01 2018 04:22 Danglars wrote: I thought the narrative was Republicans we’re all up on wild conspiracy theories. Hey, a new Red Scare! That’s the trick—Democrats. Well your people did try to shoot up a pizzaria to free non existant child hostages. If you had paid any attention to the actual happenings and not kept your nose in fox breitbart and zerohedge, you would see that republicans are very literally selling America out to the russians in front of everyones faces, it's literally not a conspiracy theory. | ||
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