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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 19:06:02
December 01 2017 19:03 GMT
#187681


Greatest subtweet of all time. Bring on the pee tape.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 01 2017 19:11 GMT
#187682
Kushner is the one who gave the direct order to Flynn according to Bloomberg.

www.bloomberg.com
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 01 2017 19:13 GMT
#187683
On December 02 2017 04:03 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/Comey/status/936641449294286848

Greatest subtweet of all time. Bring on the pee tape.

Should check out his account name too, on instagram.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 01 2017 19:16 GMT
#187684
On December 02 2017 04:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 04:03 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/Comey/status/936641449294286848

Greatest subtweet of all time. Bring on the pee tape.

Should check out his account name too, on instagram.

Comey is god tier at the internet. Jesus.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
December 01 2017 19:19 GMT
#187685
On December 02 2017 03:49 brian wrote:
yea the idea that all the republican congressmen, or even just the ones in power, would jump on the (wild speculation incoming) ‘conspiracy’ train in the spirit of team playing is crazy. i would run, not walk, from any appearance of doing so. investigations are good things. everyone wants the truth (except for the guilty) and i imagine Ryan, McConnell et al are totally on board for letting it take its course.

i mean hell, trump isn’t good for gop congressmen to begin with. i’m betting all of them with any integrity (so you can see here why Sessions is so pleased) would’ve preferred any of the other candidates.


Yeah. It is important to keep in mind no one in power actually likes Trump. They are doing what they can with what they got. But Ryan or McConnel would never go down with the ship or anything like that. They did everything they could to prevent him from winning.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
December 01 2017 19:38 GMT
#187686
On December 02 2017 03:52 kollin wrote:
Arise, President xDaunt

He already got a SCOTUS appointment, he doesn’t need a presidency too.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 01 2017 19:41 GMT
#187687
On December 02 2017 04:38 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 03:52 kollin wrote:
Arise, President xDaunt

He already got a SCOTUS appointment, he doesn’t need a presidency too.

Xdaunt would always write concurring or dissenting opinions just to make sure to point out all the ways the other justices did get it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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mozoku
Profile Joined September 2012
United States708 Posts
December 01 2017 19:45 GMT
#187688
I take a very skeptical prior on any "bombs" concerning Trump-Russia. It feels like I've seen this movie 10 times by now. We'll see.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 01 2017 19:49 GMT
#187689
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 01 2017 19:52 GMT
#187690
The Republicans are so spineless that it could be after January 2019 before we see any action in congress.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43643 Posts
December 01 2017 20:00 GMT
#187691
On December 02 2017 04:45 mozoku wrote:
I take a very skeptical prior on any "bombs" concerning Trump-Russia. It feels like I've seen this movie 10 times by now. We'll see.

?
The reason we've seen it 10 times is because there actually have already been a series of bombs.

You don't get to accuse the other side of crying wolf when each time they cried wolf there was an actual wolf attacking the flock. That's not how crying wolf works.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 20:01:13
December 01 2017 20:00 GMT
#187692
On December 02 2017 04:45 mozoku wrote:
I take a very skeptical prior on any "bombs" concerning Trump-Russia. It feels like I've seen this movie 10 times by now. We'll see.

indeed, we all know trump should be impeached, but that's not what matters, what matters is whether his base of support degrades enough that the republicans decide its time to dump him or not. and that obviously has very little to do with things like fact or reason.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
December 01 2017 20:06 GMT
#187693
It's so fun watching the slow, methodical rolling of this tube of toothpaste. There's only one more rung to climb.

Remember months ago when certain people around here didn't even believe the Trump admin was in any way working with Russians?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 01 2017 20:08 GMT
#187694
On December 02 2017 05:06 Mohdoo wrote:
It's so fun watching the slow, methodical rolling of this tube of toothpaste. There's only one more rung to climb.

Remember months ago when certain people around here didn't even believe the Trump admin was in any way working with Russians?

Or even before that, that the Russians didn't meddle in our election.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
mozoku
Profile Joined September 2012
United States708 Posts
December 01 2017 20:12 GMT
#187695
I'm not sure "spineless" is the word for not impeaching him before the official investigation has even made its findings public. Right now we have an admission of intent to collude from his son that was was essentially the result of blackmail from a leak. If the investigation confirms that there's indeed a compete case against Trump Sr and the GOP still doesn't move to remove him, then you can start credibly lambasting them.

I agree it's probably an impeachable offense once it's officially confirmed that Trump Sr was involved, but if this is your standard of evidence for impeachment then we might as well start voting for presidential replacements at midterms going forward. Just because impeachment is technically a political process doesn't we aren't better off applying some measure of legal rigor to the proceedings.
mozoku
Profile Joined September 2012
United States708 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 20:19:51
December 01 2017 20:13 GMT
#187696
On December 02 2017 05:00 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 04:45 mozoku wrote:
I take a very skeptical prior on any "bombs" concerning Trump-Russia. It feels like I've seen this movie 10 times by now. We'll see.

?
The reason we've seen it 10 times is because there actually have already been a series of bombs.

You don't get to accuse the other side of crying wolf when each time they cried wolf there was an actual wolf attacking the flock. That's not how crying wolf works.

Yeah like that dossier right? Or all that alleged Russian ad money from Facebook for Trump... Oh wait it was a measly $100k and was more focused on general division than actually supporting Trump.

The rolling back goes both ways. Trump's base denied any conclusion, while angry Dems were originally convinced that Putin was basically Trump's unofficial campaign director. Neither is true. In reality, it sounds more like Trump tried to or was willing to collude and it didn't amount to much for whatever reason.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43643 Posts
December 01 2017 20:16 GMT
#187697
On December 02 2017 05:13 mozoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 05:00 KwarK wrote:
On December 02 2017 04:45 mozoku wrote:
I take a very skeptical prior on any "bombs" concerning Trump-Russia. It feels like I've seen this movie 10 times by now. We'll see.

?
The reason we've seen it 10 times is because there actually have already been a series of bombs.

You don't get to accuse the other side of crying wolf when each time they cried wolf there was an actual wolf attacking the flock. That's not how crying wolf works.

Yeah like that dossier right?

That was a real dossier given to McCain from a British intelligence officer. We have no way of verifying the contents ourselves yet but yes, the dossier really happened. Trump Jr., Flynn, Sessions, Kushner, Pence, Page, Manafort, and Stone represent a good collection of wolves too.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 20:19:35
December 01 2017 20:17 GMT
#187698
On December 02 2017 05:13 mozoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 05:00 KwarK wrote:
On December 02 2017 04:45 mozoku wrote:
I take a very skeptical prior on any "bombs" concerning Trump-Russia. It feels like I've seen this movie 10 times by now. We'll see.

?
The reason we've seen it 10 times is because there actually have already been a series of bombs.

You don't get to accuse the other side of crying wolf when each time they cried wolf there was an actual wolf attacking the flock. That's not how crying wolf works.

Yeah like that dossier right?


Fun fact: a good chunk of that dossier was related to Manafort, Carter Page, and Flynn coordinating illicitly with Russia. Can't remember if Papadopolous was in there. It wasn't just pee tapes.

In fact, I'm not sure which parts of the dossier have been shown to be inaccurate at this point. The fact that Trump and surrogates have attacked it in multiple ways makes me suspect the bulk of it is.

It also was part of the FBI investigation, which in turn led to Comey's firing, which in turn led to Mueller. So it certainly seems to be have been at least part of the chain of explosions.
mozoku
Profile Joined September 2012
United States708 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 20:21:47
December 01 2017 20:21 GMT
#187699
On December 02 2017 05:16 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 05:13 mozoku wrote:
On December 02 2017 05:00 KwarK wrote:
On December 02 2017 04:45 mozoku wrote:
I take a very skeptical prior on any "bombs" concerning Trump-Russia. It feels like I've seen this movie 10 times by now. We'll see.

?
The reason we've seen it 10 times is because there actually have already been a series of bombs.

You don't get to accuse the other side of crying wolf when each time they cried wolf there was an actual wolf attacking the flock. That's not how crying wolf works.

Yeah like that dossier right?

That was a real dossier given to McCain from a British intelligence officer. We have no way of verifying the contents ourselves yet but yes, the dossier really happened. Trump Jr., Flynn, Sessions, Kushner, Pence, Page, Manafort, and Stone represent a good collection of wolves too.

Yeah, except you left out the part that it was funded by the Clinton campaign (and the GOP before that) lol.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9638 Posts
December 01 2017 20:21 GMT
#187700
On December 02 2017 05:12 mozoku wrote:
I'm not sure "spineless" is the word for not impeaching him before the official investigation has even made its findings public. Right now we have an admission of intent to collude from his son that was was essentially the result of blackmail from a leak. If the investigation confirms that there's indeed a compete case against Trump Sr and the GOP still doesn't move to remove him, then you can start credibly lambasting them.

I agree it's probably an impeachable offense once it's officially confirmed that Trump Sr was involved, but if this is your standard of evidence for impeachment then we might as well start voting for presidential replacements at midterms going forward. Just because impeachment is technically a political process doesn't we aren't better off applying some measure of legal rigor to the proceedings.

i’m not sure from this post that you really understand what the bar for impeachment is. there are actions that are fully legal that still qualify a president for impeachment. how you would apply some measure of legality to that is muddy at best.
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