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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
December 01 2017 17:44 GMT
#187661
On December 02 2017 02:42 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 02:31 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Tillerson is on the way out of State Dept. Cotton to CIA.

In short Trump and the GOP ARE going to pull the War card in hopes of keeping their heads.

Explain your last sentence please?

Tillerson had been super anti war. He's replacing Tillerson with a deeply pro war yes man
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 01 2017 17:46 GMT
#187662
On December 02 2017 02:40 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 02:31 Danglars wrote:
On December 02 2017 01:23 GreenHorizons wrote:
On December 02 2017 01:17 Danglars wrote:


The sixth time’s the charm, as they say


You would prefer to pay $30K+/yr and force him to stay in the US?

I would prefer he spend the next two years practicing pole vaulting in Mexico.


So they are doing what you want by deporting him. That was just a very roundabout way of displaying frustration with Trumps complete inability to make even the slightest hint of progress regarding his inexplicably dumb wall?

You’re right. Clinton had a much better chance to get the wall built.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24138 Posts
December 01 2017 17:48 GMT
#187663
On December 02 2017 02:46 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 02:40 GreenHorizons wrote:
On December 02 2017 02:31 Danglars wrote:
On December 02 2017 01:23 GreenHorizons wrote:
On December 02 2017 01:17 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/ap/status/936434351599996929

The sixth time’s the charm, as they say


You would prefer to pay $30K+/yr and force him to stay in the US?

I would prefer he spend the next two years practicing pole vaulting in Mexico.


So they are doing what you want by deporting him. That was just a very roundabout way of displaying frustration with Trumps complete inability to make even the slightest hint of progress regarding his inexplicably dumb wall?

You’re right. Clinton had a much better chance to get the wall built.


You know she actually did though right?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 01 2017 17:48 GMT
#187664
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
December 01 2017 17:50 GMT
#187665
here’s to hoping Mueller brings us more gifts this christmas season.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 01 2017 17:53 GMT
#187666
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 01 2017 17:58 GMT
#187667
Let’s see what you got, Flynn.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
December 01 2017 18:03 GMT
#187668
Let the fun begin, courtesy of Mueller and Flynn.

For once Im finding impeachment a possibility, even if I don't really trust the integrity of Congress to follow through with the.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 01 2017 18:07 GMT
#187669
Joy Behar ladies and gents.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
December 01 2017 18:16 GMT
#187670
This sounds like fun. Let's see what comes of it.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 18:24:05
December 01 2017 18:23 GMT
#187671
If the Republicans weren't on board with the eventual consequences of the Russia investigation (impeachment), wouldn't they have tried to derail it harder? Why did Trump have to go to half a dozen people as reported yesterday to try to squash it, and get jack shit in return? McConnell and Ryan have both been pretty fierce "supporters" of letting the investigation continue unimpeded. You think there just wasn't anything in their power they could have reasonably done to throw it off course and still save face?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 18:26:34
December 01 2017 18:25 GMT
#187672
On December 02 2017 03:23 Tachion wrote:
If the Republicans weren't on board with the eventual consequences of the Russia investigation (impeachment), wouldn't they have tried to derail it harder? Why did Trump have to go to half a dozen people as reported yesterday to try to squash it, and get jack shit in return? McConnell and Ryan have both been pretty fierce "supporters" of letting the investigation continue unimpeded. You think there just wasn't anything in their power they could have reasonably done to throw it off course and still save face?

They clearly have no intention of going down with the ship. They didn't exactly choose Trump, they were stuck with him when he somehow won against the electable Hillary Clinton and the even more electable Jeb Bush & co.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
December 01 2017 18:38 GMT
#187673
Impeached to have the runner-up take the helm? Am I wrong? I cant wait for this.
Skol
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
December 01 2017 18:42 GMT
#187674
On December 02 2017 03:38 Emnjay808 wrote:
Impeached to have the runner-up take the helm? Am I wrong? I cant wait for this.


Pence was the leader of the transition team Flynn says he worked with to setup Russia stuff.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22471 Posts
December 01 2017 18:42 GMT
#187675
On December 02 2017 03:23 Tachion wrote:
If the Republicans weren't on board with the eventual consequences of the Russia investigation (impeachment), wouldn't they have tried to derail it harder? Why did Trump have to go to half a dozen people as reported yesterday to try to squash it, and get jack shit in return? McConnell and Ryan have both been pretty fierce "supporters" of letting the investigation continue unimpeded. You think there just wasn't anything in their power they could have reasonably done to throw it off course and still save face?

Because stopping the investigation, aside from bad optics, also ties you to any 'obstruction of justice' charges down the line.
No one sane wants to touch any possible connection with a 10 foot pole.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 01 2017 18:48 GMT
#187676
If trump and pence both resign does Paul Ryan take the reigns?
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 18:57:00
December 01 2017 18:49 GMT
#187677
yea the idea that all the republican congressmen, or even just the ones in power, would jump on the (wild speculation incoming) ‘conspiracy’ train in the spirit of team playing is crazy. i would run, not walk, from any appearance of doing so. investigations are good things. everyone wants the truth (except for the guilty) and i imagine Ryan, McConnell et al are totally on board for letting it take its course.

i mean hell, trump isn’t good for gop congressmen to begin with. i’m betting all of them with any integrity (so you can see here why Sessions is so pleased) would’ve preferred any of the other candidates.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 01 2017 18:52 GMT
#187678
Arise, President xDaunt
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
December 01 2017 18:57 GMT
#187679
On December 02 2017 03:48 kollin wrote:
If trump and pence both resign does Paul Ryan take the reigns?

yes.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 01 2017 18:58 GMT
#187680
On December 02 2017 03:48 kollin wrote:
If trump and pence both resign does Paul Ryan take the reigns?


only if he's speaker.
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