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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 19 2017 19:24 GMT
#180561
Lol just listening to the talk, and it sounds like no one wants him there, and just asking questions that show how much of a racist this guy is.
Life?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 19 2017 19:27 GMT
#180562
man spencer straight forgot that native americans exist and had to bullshit his way out
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 19 2017 19:28 GMT
#180563
On October 20 2017 04:24 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Lol just listening to the talk, and it sounds like no one wants him there, and just asking questions that show how much of a racist this guy is.

That is the best part about Spencer, he is a total doof and failure at every other part of existence. His 39 years on the planet have been just a series of failures. The only thing he can peddle is hate. And he can only do that by threatening to file a lawsuit against anyone who says he isn’t worth the time and money. Because he is a loser.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 19 2017 19:31 GMT
#180564
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 19 2017 19:32 GMT
#180565
Turned on the stream. An audience member was asking annoying questions and Spencer did his best to weasel his way out of answering. Turned off the stream.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
October 19 2017 19:37 GMT
#180566
On October 20 2017 04:32 LegalLord wrote:
Turned on the stream. An audience member was asking annoying questions and Spencer did his best to weasel his way out of answering. Turned off the stream.

Annoying for whom?
passive quaranstream fan
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
October 19 2017 19:40 GMT
#180567
On October 20 2017 04:20 Plansix wrote:
Gov Scott did that so the university could get reimbursed for the security costs and they could make sure they had enough people. No one wants Spencer there, but they have to allow him there by law.


But surprisingly somehow they don't have a responsibility over who is allowed to attend/cover the event. It's always very odd to me where the 1st amendment ends in these sort of things (hint it always seems to be right after the white supremacists get their way).


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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 19 2017 19:40 GMT
#180568
On October 20 2017 04:37 Artisreal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2017 04:32 LegalLord wrote:
Turned on the stream. An audience member was asking annoying questions and Spencer did his best to weasel his way out of answering. Turned off the stream.

Annoying for whom?

Annoying to listen to.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
October 19 2017 19:46 GMT
#180569
On October 20 2017 04:40 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2017 04:37 Artisreal wrote:
On October 20 2017 04:32 LegalLord wrote:
Turned on the stream. An audience member was asking annoying questions and Spencer did his best to weasel his way out of answering. Turned off the stream.

Annoying for whom?

Annoying to listen to.

Haha yeah. That happens a lot when people try to ask gotcha questions or introduce themselves and ramble on about something dear to them without even asking a question. Also it ain't the easiest thing to speak publicly without some form of experience, especially with a microphone too close or too far away.
passive quaranstream fan
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 19 2017 20:03 GMT
#180570
He just said "peaceful ethnic cleansing." But he's a white man in a suit speaking in a calm voice, so he's being reasonable.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 19 2017 20:19 GMT
#180571
On October 20 2017 04:00 ChristianS wrote:
This isn't how people who actually believe these theories talk about them


how do people who actually believe these theories talk about them?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24152 Posts
October 19 2017 20:24 GMT
#180572
Tell people that they have a voice in America if they're not women and minorities.
-Danglars

Did I fall asleep and wake up in a parallel universe?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24152 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-19 20:41:00
October 19 2017 20:40 GMT
#180573
Turns out Democrats really enjoy being losers.



Ousted and demoted DNC veterans reportedly include Ray Buckley, James Zogby, Alice Germond and Barbra Casbar Siperstein, the network reported, adding that a common thread linking many of them is their support of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), who ran against Perez for the chairmanship.

Buckley, who ran against Perez for the top DNC role before endorsing Ellison, was pushed out of his positions on the DNC's Executive Committee and Rules Committee, NBC News reported.

"I understand the chair can do as he pleases, but still, it's all just very disappointing," Buckley told the news outlet.


Remember this is with Donna Brazile (admitted cheater) being ON the rules committee. The DNC is just hopeless.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 19 2017 20:46 GMT
#180574
This is the same pattern as one we've seen time and time again: you either get behind the establishment wing (and its current leader), or after they lose you can expect to be part of the purge. But evidently that doesn't win votes.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9956 Posts
October 19 2017 20:48 GMT
#180575
So is it party policy to blame Sanders for the election then?
That's delusional.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12486 Posts
October 19 2017 20:49 GMT
#180576
Looks like "Unity" to me.
No will to live, no wish to die
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-19 20:53:23
October 19 2017 20:51 GMT
#180577
The House Democrats seem like a hot mess that can’t get over petty infighting. But I don’t know if it was always like that, because the Republicans have the same problem.

On October 20 2017 05:48 Jockmcplop wrote:
So is it party policy to blame Sanders for the election then?
That's delusional.

There is going to be a faction of democrats that will always believe that or be mad about it. And if one of those has control over committee, they might be a petty bitch.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24152 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-19 20:59:42
October 19 2017 20:54 GMT
#180578
On October 20 2017 05:51 Plansix wrote:
The House Democrats seem like a hot mess that can’t get over petty infighting. But I don’t know if it was always like that, because the Republicans have the same problem.

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2017 05:48 Jockmcplop wrote:
So is it party policy to blame Sanders for the election then?
That's delusional.

There is going to be a faction of democrats that will always believe that or be mad about it. And if one of those has control over committee, they might be a petty bitch.


Or maybe in charge of the whole party (as much as a petty faction can be)

If the 80+% of Democrats that back Bernie's ideas* chose them over the party, that faction would come running, tail tucked between their legs, but too many people continue to embrace the shitfest that is the Democratic party establishment.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9956 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-19 20:59:54
October 19 2017 20:57 GMT
#180579
It doesn't matter how petty you are, if you look at the whole election campaign and make a genuine decision to believe that Sanders was to blame for the dems losing you are not in touch with reality.
You Americans need at least one political party with some roots in the real world.

On October 20 2017 05:58 Wulfey_LA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2017 05:16 Wulfey_LA wrote:
On October 19 2017 05:10 Plansix wrote:
I love that some folks have gone to full “asking for receipts” with this Trump phone call. Until we have a full audio recording independently reviewed by an approved neutral mediator with no political affiliations, it is impossible to tell what is real. Forget good faith, we need prima facie evidence.


As if we haven't been at this exact location in a Trump 72 hour news cycle shit fest once a week for the last 7 months before.

Stage 1: something horrible Trump says comes out, it demeans the Office of the Presidency and reveals his despicable character
Stage 2 (~12 hours): cultists pretend it is fake news until more confirmation (it was a Democrat who said it!)
Stage 3 (~18 hours): DJT lies about substance of statement
Stage 4 (~24 hours): further eyewitnesses come forwards contradicting DJT (cultists play epistemological games and pretend we haven't had this cycle before [WE ARE HERE])
Stage 5 (~48 hours): DJT confirms original statement in hate tweet
Stage 6 (~72 hours): anti-anti-Trump attacks media for focusing on terrible thing Trump says and cultists wash whole thing from their memory


We are minutes from Stage 5.

John Kelly confirmed Rep. Wilson and the Widow's account of the conversation.

+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/921100899619090432


Trump in disrespect shocker.
Really though, disrespecting people is what got Trump into the WH, why would he stop now?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
October 19 2017 20:58 GMT
#180580
On October 19 2017 05:16 Wulfey_LA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2017 05:10 Plansix wrote:
I love that some folks have gone to full “asking for receipts” with this Trump phone call. Until we have a full audio recording independently reviewed by an approved neutral mediator with no political affiliations, it is impossible to tell what is real. Forget good faith, we need prima facie evidence.


As if we haven't been at this exact location in a Trump 72 hour news cycle shit fest once a week for the last 7 months before.

Stage 1: something horrible Trump says comes out, it demeans the Office of the Presidency and reveals his despicable character
Stage 2 (~12 hours): cultists pretend it is fake news until more confirmation (it was a Democrat who said it!)
Stage 3 (~18 hours): DJT lies about substance of statement
Stage 4 (~24 hours): further eyewitnesses come forwards contradicting DJT (cultists play epistemological games and pretend we haven't had this cycle before [WE ARE HERE])
Stage 5 (~48 hours): DJT confirms original statement in hate tweet
Stage 6 (~72 hours): anti-anti-Trump attacks media for focusing on terrible thing Trump says and cultists wash whole thing from their memory


We are minutes from Stage 5.

John Kelly confirmed Rep. Wilson and the Widow's account of the conversation.

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