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Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
October 18 2017 15:48 GMT
#180341


So not only does the family claim the president lied on Twitter about disrespecting their son/husband, but he couldn't even remember his name.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-18 15:57:15
October 18 2017 15:57 GMT
#180342
Its not surprising that Trump’s most stunning failure is the part of the job that requires empathy and can’t be used to pump his own brand. Obama and Bush rarely even allowed photos to be taken of them visiting families or wounded troops. Obama’s white house photographer was angered by Trumps claim that he released a few that we have never seen and talked about how Obama wanted all his visits to be private.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4850 Posts
October 18 2017 15:59 GMT
#180343
still so vague. these calls should be perrsonal but I guess we need a transcript? I don't doubt he used those words, but that's not the important part. thid congresswoman seems off her rocker so idk.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 18 2017 16:03 GMT
#180344
the direct word of the fallen soldier's family is sufficient, I don't think a transcript is necessary. Trump didn't have to make a twitter comment about it (other than his own need to of course). He should just leave it to the professionals if he can't do it right.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21922 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-18 16:06:31
October 18 2017 16:05 GMT
#180345
On October 19 2017 00:59 Introvert wrote:
still so vague. these calls should be perrsonal but I guess we need a transcript? I don't doubt he used those words, but that's not the important part. thid congresswoman seems off her rocker so idk.

In a normal situation you might be right.
In light of the massive evidence we have of Trumps character and comments?

No, he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. Him being this insensitive is 'normal'.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 18 2017 16:12 GMT
#180346
On October 19 2017 00:59 Introvert wrote:
still so vague. these calls should be perrsonal but I guess we need a transcript? I don't doubt he used those words, but that's not the important part. thid congresswoman seems off her rocker so idk.

What, you don't trust the word of the family?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43183 Posts
October 18 2017 16:12 GMT
#180347
On October 19 2017 00:59 Introvert wrote:
still so vague. these calls should be perrsonal but I guess we need a transcript? I don't doubt he used those words, but that's not the important part. thid congresswoman seems off her rocker so idk.

This entire thing could be avoided had Trump not seen the need to brag about how much he cared about the troops and how much better he was than the past Presidents. It's an absurd situation.

In the UK we had a minor controversy when Prime Minister Gordon Brown wrote a letter of condolence to the mother of a soldier killed in action and called her "Mrs James", not "Mrs Janes". The difference is Gordon Brown apologized, called her to express his regret, and is half blind.

People capable of expressing humility don't run into these issues. We don't need to dismember the entire transcript and try and prove once and for all who was in the right. Who is in the right isn't the issue, nobody thinks that Trump was deliberately trying to upset the widow, no more than anyone thinks that Brown got the name wrong as an intentional slight. He just needs to apologize and move the hell on.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
October 18 2017 16:15 GMT
#180348
On October 19 2017 01:12 KwarK wrote:
He just needs to apologize and move the hell on.


I'm pretty sure only 1/2 of this is going to happen.
Logo
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 18 2017 16:16 GMT
#180349
On October 19 2017 01:15 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2017 01:12 KwarK wrote:
He just needs to apologize and move the hell on.


I'm pretty sure only 1/2 of this is going to happen.

He isn't moving on. He is going to double down and maybe attack the family for making him look bad. This is how the man rolls.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
October 18 2017 16:17 GMT
#180350
On October 19 2017 01:16 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2017 01:15 Logo wrote:
On October 19 2017 01:12 KwarK wrote:
He just needs to apologize and move the hell on.


I'm pretty sure only 1/2 of this is going to happen.

He isn't moving on. He is going to double down and maybe attack the family for making him look bad. This is how the man rolls.


Well yeah he needs to wait for Fox News to tell him what to go on about next. He's gotta do something in the meantime.
Logo
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 18 2017 16:20 GMT
#180351


They held Holder in contempt for doing this.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18835 Posts
October 18 2017 16:22 GMT
#180352
This session of Congress ought be known as "the Pussyhands Congress." I'm sure Mac would be proud of their soft touch.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 18 2017 16:23 GMT
#180353
On October 19 2017 00:48 Saryph wrote:
https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/920675349540859904

So not only does the family claim the president lied on Twitter about disrespecting their son/husband, but he couldn't even remember his name.


This was about the most predictable development to this story that could possibly have happened lol.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43183 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-18 16:26:18
October 18 2017 16:25 GMT
#180354
If Gordon Brown had hit back with

A) My job is to run the country, I have more important shit to do than this, she should be thankful she got the letter she got.
B) Getting shot at is literally his job. He got shot. I'm sorry it happened but this is basically what he was out there for.
C) I was blinded as a child, I can't see for shit.
D) If I had my secretary write the letter and just signed it then you'd get one without errors but bitch about me not taking enough time. This is what I get for doing it myself.

he'd have been in the right. But not everything is about being in the right. Totally pwning that widow isn't a winning proposition. The question that remains is whether anyone can explain that to Trump in a way that he'll understand.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 18 2017 16:27 GMT
#180355


So at least he isn't a judge any more?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 18 2017 16:33 GMT
#180356
On October 19 2017 01:27 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/920678600277479424

So at least he isn't a judge any more?


What law? Roy obviously just following Trumpsters.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/319/624 probably the best argument on your Freedom of Speech. Even your job can't stop you.
Life?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18835 Posts
October 18 2017 16:34 GMT
#180357
There's a legitimate chance that Roy Moore will turn that Alabama Senate seat blue if he keeps up with that talk.

How tantalizing
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 18 2017 16:36 GMT
#180358
Is the Democratic candidate good? Because the last couple special elections have had some really duds.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 18 2017 16:37 GMT
#180359
Honestly, all this legality/permissibility drama aside, it's a fairly distasteful protest. Though to be fair there shouldn't be any laws against mere poor taste.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18835 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-18 16:40:03
October 18 2017 16:39 GMT
#180360
On October 19 2017 01:36 Plansix wrote:
Is the Democratic candidate good? Because the last couple special elections have had some really duds.

Dude's a former US Attorney with a work history of going after the KKK; he's a bit light on charisma imo, but he compares quite well with Roy Moore overall.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
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