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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 14 2017 20:54 Plansix wrote: Mississippi continues to impress. A big point of that book is to make you uncomfortable. American history has many unjust convictions and lynchings. You still teach it even if students don’t come away feeling great about themselves. Pathetic. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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farvacola
United States18829 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 15 2017 00:56 Mohdoo wrote: Planned Parenthood, Obamacare, immigration...Iran deal. These are all things Republicans have been foaming at the mouth over. He's definitely going by the Republicans mantra. The first three have been nothing but rhetoric, and talking about the issue but doing nothing is quintessentially Republican. But major props for identifying areas where Republicans can think him a billion times more acceptable than Hillary. We might’ve had a DACA expansion and unilaterally-increased Insurance bribes by now. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
8986 Posts
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On October 15 2017 02:02 farvacola wrote: I personally buy into the theory that Harper Lee was cajoled into releasing a book that she wasn't happy with before she passed away, but then again, that whole backstory is similarly American so it all works out. To some extent, if you wait until the author is happy with their work to release it to the public, you will end up with George Lucas Special Edition. Though I haven't read the sequel so I can't say much about it. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On October 14 2017 23:35 GreenHorizons wrote: We jest, but we had Nazi's kill an innocent woman at a protest, another shoot at someone, and a President that called them "very fine people" and then called people protesting systemic racism "son's of bitches" and told their bosses to fire them if they didn't worship the flag (the US one not the enemy [Nazi/Confederate] flags flown by the "fine people") Then we have folks like Danglars and xDaunt who advocate various aspects of white supremacy with the cover of intellectual engagement And towns/cities (run by both parties) scattered all around the country where segregation never ended, slavery is alive and well, and police have been found to habitually violate PoC's constitutional rights. People wonder how you get from a "normal society" to fighting off an ethnostate, take a look around, it looks a lot like this. EDIT: Can't forget the folks that range from laughing at the idea to those that just don't see how it would ever be their problem so can't be bothered. Yes, everyone who doesn't agree with me or is a conservative is a white supremacist. Your argumentation is pretty sound. Funny how some people on this forum can get away with insulting people without any moderation. | ||
Falling
Canada11355 Posts
On October 14 2017 23:52 ChristianS wrote: Either: A: Force them apart B: Extrajudicial violence against one or both of them C: White race traitors lose the privilege of living with the other whites It's not that neo-Nazis didn't think of this stuff, they just don't mind really crude or violent solutions to it. Remember they hate miscegenation and they don't mind violence, so if you're mixed and they really can't figure out where to put you there's a good chance they just kill you. In general, any time someone advocates for mass forced migration, a huge portion of the people being moved are generally just gonna die/be killed rather than make the move. And whoever is advocating for it probably knows that, they just don't care. In a good number of cases, "forced migration" is just code for genocide. I would guess option C for the official position. They often talk about race traitors, so it stands to reason that race traitors join the 'side' they switched to. Perhaps option B would also happen unofficially. I don't think they haven't thought of this, but their worldview tends to absolutize racial divisions. Having said that they can be morally flexible. There aren't many of them, so they can start bending their definitions if they like you: 'you're white enough' or 'it's the white side that counts'. Or to half-Chinese kids. You (Japan!) helped us during WWII, so you're alright." | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 15 2017 03:03 GoTuNk! wrote: Yes, everyone who doesn't agree with me or is a conservative is a white supremacist. Your argumentation is pretty sound. Funny how some people on this forum can get away with insulting people without any moderation. He didn't say that. There are a number of conservatives on this site that didn't make it into that post. But nice back seat moderating. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7890 Posts
On October 15 2017 03:03 GoTuNk! wrote: Yes, everyone who doesn't agree with me or is a conservative is a white supremacist. Your argumentation is pretty sound. Funny how some people on this forum can get away with insulting people without any moderation. His argument is indeed pretty sound. White supremacist is not an insult it's a position and idea. Same with racism. What is it with the far right supporters saying and advocating racist stuff all day long and then whining when called racists? Consistency guys, consistency. Now I've read posters in this very thread both protesting the horrible, horrible insult of being called racist while saying explicitly that black folks are inherently more prone to violence. Here is an idea. If you don't like being called a white supremacist, what about not waving (or defending) the confederate flag, having no objections to neo nazis being called very fine people and going amock when anyone protests in any way the discriminations POC suffer in America (and "insult to the veterans" my ass, seriously)? Because you add all of those up, and you sure look, walk and quack very quite fucking much like a white supremacist in most people's book. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
You're not gonna have all the answers, and when it comes to things like social injustice and police brutality, sometimes you need to shut up and listen. People's typical response has been to double down and become twice as loud in their ignorance, and now we have a president that lives by this, but it only sets us back. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 15 2017 03:03 GoTuNk! wrote: Yes, everyone who doesn't agree with me or is a conservative is a white supremacist. Your argumentation is pretty sound. Funny how some people on this forum can get away with insulting people without any moderation. “Your intellectual engagement is only a cover for advocating various aspects of white supremacy” is the toxic issue of race relations and representative of a major political driving force. We should probably have a new website feedback discussion on it because it openly defames posters with a very poorly qualified slur despite its prominence. It kind of begs a response ala GH tolerates black victimization in society so long as whites are more openly maligned and defamed as a race in society. (To wit, one person gets away calling the other advocating WS, then a right winger thinks it’s fine to fire back with something more foul) | ||
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KwarK
United States42804 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 14 2017 13:41 LegalLord wrote: NYT is nowhere near as absurdly grudge-loving as Washington Post or CNN. They have their bias but they still do have journalistic standards. The latter just spend every waking moment spreading piss fires because they find yellow press journalism and grandstanding to be profitable, or something. I think you confused CNN with journalism. CNN doesn't do journalism anymore they sell drama it's why if you pay attention they latch onto anything controversial anything interpersonal anything drama related. They don't care about reporting they care about ratings and they've chosen to do it though essentially the reality TV and daytime talk show format except using actual events as the basis. It's easy to see when they talk about "issues" they don't talk about issues they talk about drama around those issues you'll be hard pressed for them to talk the actual nitty gritty of things like tax reform of healthcare reform like things that are actually in bills, they'll talk a ton about the people around those bills and the people it affects. At Least since Jeff Zucker been president of CNN who btw is the guy who got Trump to do the apprentice. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 15 2017 01:54 Danglars wrote: A big point of that book is to make you uncomfortable. American history has many unjust convictions and lynchings. You still teach it even if students don’t come away feeling great about themselves. Pathetic. Hey mississippi gonna mississippi they've pretty much always been the worst at race shit. They don't have the confederate battle flag inside their state flag for no reason. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On October 15 2017 04:52 semantics wrote: I think you confused CNN with journalism. CNN doesn't do journalism anymore they sell drama it's why if you pay attention they latch onto anything controversial anything interpersonal anything drama related. They don't care about reporting they care about ratings and they've chosen to do it though essentially the reality TV and daytime talk show format except using actual events as the basis. It's easy to see when they talk about "issues" they don't talk about issues they talk about drama around those issues you'll be hard pressed for them to talk the actual nitty gritty of things like tax reform of healthcare reform like things that are actually in bills, they'll talk a ton about the people around those bills and the people it affects. At Least since Jeff Zucker been president of CNN who btw is the guy who got Trump to do the apprentice. A shame too; 15 years ago I liked CNN and thought it was a good news source. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
Elon Musk is doing an AMA edit : It's all about his mars stuff though Also weinstein has been stripped of his guild membership, and the statement is pathetic Following the meeting, the Academy issued a statement saying the board had voted “to immediately expel him from the Academy. We do so not simply to separate ourselves from someone who does not merit the respect of his colleagues but also to send a message that the era of willful ignorance and shameful complicity in sexually predatory behavior and workplace harrasment in our industry is over.” www.hollywoodreporter.com | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
8986 Posts
On October 15 2017 06:45 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/919312253295452160 He basically said he didn't read it, doesn't know what the Iran deal really does, and is leaving it up to others to see if it satisfies him. | ||
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