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On October 12 2017 13:33 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2017 13:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:On October 12 2017 13:12 Danglars wrote:On October 12 2017 09:33 Saryph wrote:
At least twice in one day talking about gutting first amendment. Thankfully the first amendment doesn't care if its the right or left attacking it. Yes less news, so less reporting. You know that PR is a shit show right? My friend was stuck over there for four weeks after Maria hit, and the federal government isn't doing much to help move supplies. He has more than enough proof that Trump literally only went to PR to check on his golf course. What are you on about? Seriously looks like a misquote. This is on 1st amendment dummies that should be laughed at before dismissed, not how PR has ... serious first amendment issues in the fetid water?
Definitely skipped my point, but to make it short, the only reason we know PR is a shit show is because of the media. Remove media, you can't report on things that FEMA do that are sketchy, or what PR government does that is sketchy.
Then it comes down to how FEMA is dealing with all of this. We know they have to deal with multiple Hurricanes right now, but PR was devastated, and then the Virgin Islands get barely any news, and they got hit twice. From what my friend said, there just isn't enough personal from the federal government helping. While the PR government is trying as much as they can. Apparently its just due to roads being destroyed/washed out, and lack of truck drivers.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/political-disputes-hurting-puerto-rico-relief-fema-chief-says/
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/354290-fema-restores-deleted-puerto-rico-stats-after-uproar
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On October 12 2017 13:30 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2017 11:43 LegalLord wrote:
And this guy should have stayed silent as well. Let's grandstand on Trump's clearly over the top BS. We need a lot more of the "cut it out, idiot" and less of the "your latest statement is a direct affront to the oath of office, are you recanting it?!" This is the guy that wants loss of citizenship and jailtime for burning the flag and 68 other stupid ideas that should prompt eye-rolls. Given his past tweets (among others), he should know better. + Show Spoiler +On October 12 2017 13:23 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2017 13:07 ChristianS wrote:On October 12 2017 12:54 LegalLord wrote:On October 12 2017 12:51 ChristianS wrote:On October 12 2017 12:43 LegalLord wrote:On October 12 2017 12:27 ChristianS wrote:On October 12 2017 11:43 LegalLord wrote:
And this guy should have stayed silent as well. Headline: American President calls for government to silence critical media Subheadline: obscure American politician disagrees LL: lol wtf is obscure politician talking about, he should shut up Do you get why people think you're a troll and/or Russia shill? In the present situation, Ben Sasse is the one you decided merited criticism. Worth asking, is this one of those issues where you agree with Trump? You've defended Putin a few times iirc, and silencing critical media is certainly a normal Putin policy, so I guess I should ask before assuming you favor freedom of the press. Hell of a lot of leaps of logic in whatever this was. And yeah, Sasse should definitely shut up given he has nothing useful to say. This whole Trump is DESTROYING DEMOCRACY shtick has run its course. "That's against the first amendment" seems like a pretty apt response to "I want the government to silence opposition to me." I'll try again: Trump wants the government to take away the license of news networks to broadcast because they're "unfair" to him. Do you agree with him? No. But if you didn't start your question the whole "I bet it's because you're a Russian shill" crap (peddling Plansix's insistence on doing the same) then maybe there would be something to talk about here. Quick clarification, if you care: I don't think you're a Russian shill. Apparently you have some background in Russia or something, which might inform your worldview and beliefs, but I never thought you were some paid internet troll or something. You don't do much to dispel the myth, but you're not obligated to try to prove your critics wrong if you don't care to. But what exactly is the criticism of Sasse here? I don't think it's going to win him political points, certainly. He'll probably lose votes if anything. But he's also unambiguously right that Trump's threatening a blatant violation of the first amendment. The merit of the DESTROYING DEMOCRACY narrative is irrelevant here because Sasse didn't invoke it. He said Trump is threatening to violate the first amendment, and he said that contradicts the oath of office. The first is clearly true, and the second is at least arguably true, so what's wrong with what he said? Sasse was one of the original #NeverTrump-ers and like the rest of that lot, he only seems to care about the constitution when it is politically convenient to do so. I remember quite well the frivolous stupidity of "Trump deletes tweet - impeach for violating records laws?!?" And this is no different. Trump is quite clearly all bark and no bite. When he "insinuates" on Twitter, the obvious implication should be that he is a blowhard and should be laughed at, not that he intends to kill the press. This entire chain of "DESTROYING DEMOCRACY" horseshit is just political theatrics, not a meaningful criticism. Sure, we could talk about how Trump is a buffoon, but that'd be shooting fish in a barrel. Nevertheless, the point still stands: Sasse is a dimwit who should really just stay silent because only stupid comes out of his mouth. Of course, the easy route in all this is to never see fault with someone who is piling further shit atop the clown-in-chief, and to find any and every excuse to justify it. It was the racists, the Russians, the deplorables, anyone and everyone is at fault except for those that are opposed to Trump. So it makes for an easy, "clever" narrative to peddle. Oh, already extended while I was posting that
After 8 years of Republicans going apoplectic over shit like Obama's suit or Michelle's arms can you really suggest that's not what you would expect?
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I think it is abundantly clear that if Trump could silence the press, he would. But he is so incompetent to do so.
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On October 12 2017 10:53 Wulfey_LA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2017 10:42 Plansix wrote:
Can we not fuck around with nafda while the man who thinks the US can walk away from debt obligations is in office? We don't have to worry about DJT walking away from USA debt obligations. In case you didn't know, the stock market is up 5.2 trillion since the election. That is 5 trillion off the debt right there! DJT is halfway through eliminating the 10 trillion Obama put on the federal tab.
How do you become a billionaire and not even know money?
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On October 12 2017 19:20 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2017 10:53 Wulfey_LA wrote:On October 12 2017 10:42 Plansix wrote:
Can we not fuck around with nafda while the man who thinks the US can walk away from debt obligations is in office? We don't have to worry about DJT walking away from USA debt obligations. In case you didn't know, the stock market is up 5.2 trillion since the election. That is 5 trillion off the debt right there! DJT is halfway through eliminating the 10 trillion Obama put on the federal tab. https://twitter.com/pbump/status/918283026118922246 How do you become a billionaire and not even know money?
Daddy
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On October 12 2017 03:25 Plansix wrote:
Glad that Trump is back to asking to violate the first amendment. Waiting for him to call judges traitors for ruling against him. Then we have bingo.
It's so fucking rich coming from a compulsive liar who just makes stuff up every time he opens his mouth and never recognize the crap he says, i almost fell of my chair.
What a sinister farce we are stuck in.
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On October 12 2017 19:22 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2017 19:20 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On October 12 2017 10:53 Wulfey_LA wrote:On October 12 2017 10:42 Plansix wrote:
Can we not fuck around with nafda while the man who thinks the US can walk away from debt obligations is in office? We don't have to worry about DJT walking away from USA debt obligations. In case you didn't know, the stock market is up 5.2 trillion since the election. That is 5 trillion off the debt right there! DJT is halfway through eliminating the 10 trillion Obama put on the federal tab. https://twitter.com/pbump/status/918283026118922246 How do you become a billionaire and not even know money? Daddy
Maybe this is all just Donald Trump making a case for a higher estate tax? Imagine if he had not inherited all of that money from his daddy, we might not be stuck with president trump now.
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On October 12 2017 19:27 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2017 19:22 Gorsameth wrote:On October 12 2017 19:20 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On October 12 2017 10:53 Wulfey_LA wrote:On October 12 2017 10:42 Plansix wrote:
Can we not fuck around with nafda while the man who thinks the US can walk away from debt obligations is in office? We don't have to worry about DJT walking away from USA debt obligations. In case you didn't know, the stock market is up 5.2 trillion since the election. That is 5 trillion off the debt right there! DJT is halfway through eliminating the 10 trillion Obama put on the federal tab. https://twitter.com/pbump/status/918283026118922246 How do you become a billionaire and not even know money? Daddy Maybe this is all just Donald Trump making a case for a higher estate tax? Imagine if he had not inherited all of that money from his daddy, we might not be stuck with president trump now.
Nope, it's evil. We need to call it the death tax so it scares droves of people who don't even know what it is, nor will ever be effected by it, into being against it.
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Death tax is actually nice. A tax that i have to pay after i am dead, and that thus does not effect me in any way sounds cool. Unless it is a tax that kills me, that would be bad.
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Fixing generational wealth problems must be done, though it'll have to wait until Trump is gone. You'd think folks in our supposedly anti-royalty country would have an easy time getting behind it, but nah, they're all just temporarily embarrassed millionaires who will one day have over 5 million dollars that needs protecting from big bad government!
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There is one of these for every thing.
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On October 12 2017 19:37 farvacola wrote:
Fixing generational wealth problems must be done, though it'll have to wait until Trump is gone. You'd think folks in our supposedly anti-royalty country would have an easy time getting behind it, but nah, they're all just temporarily embarrassed millionaires who will one day have over 5 million dollars that needs protecting from big bad government!
It's almost $11,000,000 for a married couple now. We also can't forget the estate tax on the first $11,000,000 is 0%.
That's enough to easily put you in the top 7-1% of income earners without ever working a day in your life or touching the principal which could be passed down.
That the idea of repealing it isn't laughed off the political stage with anyone who even associated with the idiot who said it is an indictment of our educational and political system.
EDIT: What the actual....
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In other twitter news, rose McGowan had her account suspended for accusing Weinstein
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On October 12 2017 14:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2017 13:33 Danglars wrote:On October 12 2017 13:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:On October 12 2017 13:12 Danglars wrote:Thankfully the first amendment doesn't care if its the right or left attacking it. Yes less news, so less reporting. You know that PR is a shit show right? My friend was stuck over there for four weeks after Maria hit, and the federal government isn't doing much to help move supplies. He has more than enough proof that Trump literally only went to PR to check on his golf course. What are you on about? Seriously looks like a misquote. This is on 1st amendment dummies that should be laughed at before dismissed, not how PR has ... serious first amendment issues in the fetid water? Definitely skipped my point, but to make it short, the only reason we know PR is a shit show is because of the media. Remove media, you can't report on things that FEMA do that are sketchy, or what PR government does that is sketchy. Then it comes down to how FEMA is dealing with all of this. We know they have to deal with multiple Hurricanes right now, but PR was devastated, and then the Virgin Islands get barely any news, and they got hit twice. From what my friend said, there just isn't enough personal from the federal government helping. While the PR government is trying as much as they can. Apparently its just due to roads being destroyed/washed out, and lack of truck drivers. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/political-disputes-hurting-puerto-rico-relief-fema-chief-says/http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/354290-fema-restores-deleted-puerto-rico-stats-after-uproar
The truck drive narrative is one I'm being peddled by my conservative family. Like I'm seriously supposed to believe that the only reason PR hasn't recovered from a storm, which swept the island like a broom, is because their truck drivers are lazy. To some people, everything is adequately explained if you get to pin it on personal responsibility, and thus look down on people, even if they're in the shittiest of circumstances. I don't get it.
From the words coming out of his mouth, it seriously sounds like it's 1917, and he's talking about his slaves. Unbelievable how far some states and cities must come to catch up to the rest of civilization.
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On October 12 2017 20:16 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2017 19:37 farvacola wrote:
Fixing generational wealth problems must be done, though it'll have to wait until Trump is gone. You'd think folks in our supposedly anti-royalty country would have an easy time getting behind it, but nah, they're all just temporarily embarrassed millionaires who will one day have over 5 million dollars that needs protecting from big bad government! It's almost $11,000,000 for a married couple now. We also can't forget the estate tax on the first $11,000,000 is 0%. That's enough to easily put you in the top 7-1% of income earners without ever working a day in your life or touching the principal which could be passed down. That the idea of repealing it isn't laughed off the political stage with anyone who even associated with the idiot who said it is an indictment of our educational and political system. EDIT: What the actual.... https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/918431668658212865
"I want to keep good black people in prison so they can wash my car"
And people try to say that slavery isn't alive and kicking in the US through the penal system.
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People can scream racial slurs at random black people and send death threats on that site, but being one of like 40 accusing Weinstein of sexual harassment is a bridge to far.
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Can anyone think of one? Because I'm coming up blank.
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No, usually they just benefit financially from natural desasters and the suffering they incur.
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On October 12 2017 21:53 mortyFromRickAndMort wrote:No, usually they just benefit financially from natural desasters and the suffering they incur.
The president? Please explain.
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