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bigmetazltank
Profile Joined September 2017
34 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-30 12:49:34
September 30 2017 12:15 GMT
#177701
On September 30 2017 18:19 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
What exactly is the stuff that isn't being done in Puerto Rico though? I'm quite confused between the 'we are doing all efforts possible' from the government and the mayor saying she needs to send a mayday call.


There's a total collapse of utilities, from electricity to telecommunications to credit services, meaning things are going to get really, really bad if FEMA/federal government don't hurry up and try and restore order in the area. The main problem is logistical and the easiest way to provide logistics is for the US government to intervene.

The general line from the Trump Administration is basically "We're doing a great job" and " the Mayors in Puerto Rico are bad people, not our fault the island is a disaster with lots of debt". The reality is that if this was Texas or Florida, the government would be sending every single plane to that territory to try and get things back to normal order. Its not like the USA doesn't have the money or resources to do this, its a matter of caring.

Fortunately for Puerto Rico, some people do still care and many private residents, from Mark Cuban to Pitbull, are offering private planes to deliver/distribute resources because the government are still spinning their wheels. It still isn't enough and, like with all disaster relief efforts, the first few days (where the Trump Administration didn't really do much at all) are the most important to ensuring things don't end up pear shaped.

The good thing about Trump is that he's pretty transparent so its easy to figure out what he's bothered by and what he isn't bothered by. When the hurricane hit, the guy was pretty much bothered by health care, NFL players kneeling, Steph Curry saying he doesn't want to visit the Whitehouse and playing golf. When the media started reporting that Puerto Rico was three days without any meaningful disaster relief, that's when he started talking about the hurricane, how great his response is and taking huge dumps on the territory in the process. Its clear as day that he doesn't really give a shit about Puerto Rico, because his golf course failed there once upon a time and they can't vote while in Puerto Rico, and is only replying to perceived slights from the media and Puerto Rican politicians.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13909 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-30 12:29:13
September 30 2017 12:28 GMT
#177702
If it was a State it would have a national guard to handle disaster relief like this. with the lack of that Regular army units that are trained in order to build bridges across the Volga and repair the roads the logistics the tanks need to function to move across the Ukranian basin could be found somewhere maybe that we've been having on standby in case of WW3. that or just calling up other states national guards and sending them in to do the same.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 30 2017 12:29 GMT
#177703
You must compliment our dear leader fully.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
bigmetazltank
Profile Joined September 2017
34 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-30 12:56:29
September 30 2017 12:37 GMT
#177704
Trump's behaviour during this whole disaster is just sickening to the point I actually want to break something. Its not only completely void of sympathy and empathy but he's also simultaneously pretending to be the victim here and victim blaming an entire region that is completely ruined by a natural disaster.

Like, the asshole is literally playing golf right now while simultaneously bashing the Mayor of San Juan for poor leadership, who is working herself to the bone trying to solve this humanitarian crisis. Even tin pot dictators aren't that callous, petty and lacking in shame.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-30 12:56:37
September 30 2017 12:54 GMT
#177705
On September 30 2017 21:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
You must compliment our dear leader fully.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/914087234869047296

This might be one of his worst tweets ever. People in serious trouble and he's worried about his ego...
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24673 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-30 12:59:42
September 30 2017 12:59 GMT
#177706
I'm imagining some attack ads in a few years during the upcoming primary/election season. The commercial starts showing that tweet, then cuts to the devastation in Puerto Rico and narration about how he was playing golf instead of providing aid. At the end of the commercial, they say "Donald Trump; a big baby who cares more about golf and praise than the devastation of millions of people" and people won't even be able to argue with it.

Some people who see that ad would still vote for him because they are that selfish though.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44256 Posts
September 30 2017 13:30 GMT
#177707
It's very telling when Trump also starts tweeting about how the San Juan mayor and other Puerto Ricans are being ungrateful and that Puerto Ricans "want everything to be done for them" and that there is "such poor leadership ability by the Mayor of San Juan, and others in Puerto Rico, who are not able to get their workers to help."

Like, they've been non-stop pleading for help from day one, and Trump doesn't seem to realize that as the U.S. president he's technically the leader of Puerto Rico. But playing golf and watching football are more important than saving American lives.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 30 2017 13:53 GMT
#177708
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21655 Posts
September 30 2017 14:11 GMT
#177709
On September 30 2017 22:53 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/913951423678869506

Purposefully screwing over people so the ACA looks bad and more people will want to accept the horrible Republican plans.

words cannot express how fucked up that is.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
September 30 2017 14:28 GMT
#177710
You think Trump actually cares about the little people? He only cares about making money. I'm sure he's trying to find a way to profit off the PR disaster...
Life?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-30 15:26:29
September 30 2017 14:46 GMT
#177711



Probably the worst of Trump's tweets today
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
September 30 2017 15:23 GMT
#177712
Ugh wow, that tweet is just the worst thing you could possibly say.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-30 15:46:35
September 30 2017 15:44 GMT
#177713


"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
September 30 2017 16:06 GMT
#177714
Another day, more victim blaming and dog whistle racism. Can't wait for this presidency to be over.
bigmetazltank
Profile Joined September 2017
34 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-30 16:40:58
September 30 2017 16:38 GMT
#177715
On September 30 2017 23:28 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You think Trump actually cares about the little people? He only cares about making money. I'm sure he's trying to find a way to profit off the PR disaster...


Trump definitely doesn't have good feelings about Puerto Rico because his golf course went bust over there. It isn't even about money, he's going way too hard into the debt and poor leadership angle for it to be anything but personal. The pathetic thing about his whining about Puerto Rico's debt is that they were left with his golf course's bill after it failed.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44256 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-30 16:59:26
September 30 2017 16:58 GMT
#177716
It's absurd that Trump is blaming Puerto Ricans for being too lazy to help one another, and he doesn't seem to realize that the buck stops with him.

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"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-30 17:02:21
September 30 2017 17:02 GMT
#177717
Man, remember when Obama said fuck you to hurricane victims? Or Bush for that matter?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 30 2017 17:07 GMT
#177718


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 30 2017 17:11 GMT
#177719


Can we get a real leader in the White House? One that doesn't just hate brown and poor people?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 30 2017 17:14 GMT
#177720
In other news...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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