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Sheesh. That press conference was bad and damaging even by Trump standards. Guy consistently fucks up whenever he goes of script. The footage of Kelly listening to the conference is hard to watch. If the guy has any self respect he'll resign.
Trump has ensured that everytime a white supremacist does something bad he will be blamed for the foreseeable future for fanning the white supremacists fire.
On August 16 2017 08:00 On_Slaught wrote: Sheesh. That press conference was bad and damaging even by Trump standards. Guy consistently fucks up whenever he goes of script. The footage of Kelly listening to the conference is hard to watch. If the guy has any self respect he'll resign.
Trump has ensured that everytime a white supremacist does something bad he will be blamed for the foreseeable future for fanning the white supremacists fire.
On August 16 2017 07:15 KwarK wrote: Pure nonsense. Antifa haven't been infecting Nazis with AIDS and removing the statues isn't censoring slavery, it's merely ending the celebration of it.
Wait, is this a real thing? Are they actually infecting people with AIDS? I can't read if this part is sarcasm
Of course it's not a real thing. It's the paranoid insane delusions of noidberg who appears to be the incestuous child of infowars and /r/t_d. But it is a real thing he believes.
Please ive been following these radical left groups for months and not only know their deep history and george soros fundage but all their dirty tricks as well. Hmm also i forgot to mention they use hydrochloric acid and mace against people which is a felony.
Cite one example of a Nazi who was deliberately infected by a needlestick from antifa.
Infected? The chance is low so i dont know if it germinated. They did however boast about using infected needles on twitter a few months ago.
On August 16 2017 07:15 KwarK wrote: Pure nonsense. Antifa haven't been infecting Nazis with AIDS and removing the statues isn't censoring slavery, it's merely ending the celebration of it.
Wait, is this a real thing? Are they actually infecting people with AIDS? I can't read if this part is sarcasm
Of course it's not a real thing. It's the paranoid insane delusions of noidberg who appears to be the incestuous child of infowars and /r/t_d. But it is a real thing he believes.
Please ive been following these radical left groups for months and not only know their deep history and george soros fundage but all their dirty tricks as well. Hmm also i forgot to mention they use hydrochloric acid and mace against people which is a felony.
You ever read /r/the_donald?
Not much anymore. Sometimes i enter to grab a link or a headline to an article.
On August 16 2017 06:23 Jacenoob wrote: Well it is 100% true that a lot of the violence was started by a section of the counter protestors.
That is not the reports I am hearing. From all reports, it is hard to tell who started anything, but the alt-right group was hyper aggressive and screaming racial slurs as passing blacks. I do know which side murdered someone and hit 19 people with a car.
I have absolutely no opinion on the removal of the stupid statue, really. And I also do not identify with the protestors in pretty much any way. But claiming that the counter protestors were peaceful is simply very untrue, that is all. They came with bats, some wearing combat gear. Of course the horrific terror attack overshadows everything. But still, claiming that Antifa and certain other groups were peaceful is frightenly dishonest. They came for violence.
You should have an opinion on removing said statue not for what it represents but censoring history is wrong. USA is suffering from heavy partisanship from the left as democrats in power that are guilty of their history want to censor it. If you remove history its bound to repeat itself, is that what you all want? Trumps winning of the election, the formation of the alt right are all because of this PC, partisanship nonsense and its all due to Obama sparking the division. Appeasement never works and thats all Obama ever did was appease terrorist orgs and people because it calmed their hurt feelings. I even heard he invited the man who dead cops from BLM(another terrorist org) into the white house. History is grotesque and we should never forget it, if you dont like it LEAVE THE USA. We arent china, we dont censor to appease the power and feelings of the capitalist communist collective. Get a grip on reality people. USA is a constitutional republic never forget it.
I taught US history. They can remove that statue, we won't forget Lee. He also isn't really worth all the celebration compared to other US historical figures. Plus, that statue was put up in the Jim Crow era, when the south was super nice to blacks, so it can be removed and given proper context in a museum.
Then lets have proper discourse and not allow protests to turn violent. You have to admit partisan politicians are guilty of this whether right or left. Theres no excuse to order the police to stand down and cause people to die to make political statement. Also the next day a statue remembering the dead confederate soldiers was torn, yes torn down and again the police did nothing.
When will when the law crack down on these thugs? People want a civil war?
The proper discourse was happening. The problem was that the remove side was winning. So the out of town nazi/kkk group showed up to do what Nazi skin heads and the KKK have always done. They don't like it when democracy doesn't go their way. That is why the civil war happened. The anti slavery party took power.
And the people who took down that statue were arrested.
Yeah but its their right to do so. And the left says worse in media outlets and does worse with their hired radical goon squads. And im aware if the right was in power it would be opposite land. As for the civil war i can say with absolute certainty the cause of the war was not about slavery. All wars are bankers wars and it was about the north taxing the south which infringes upon their states rights. The untied states itself would never revolted if not for such a high tax on the colonies. So I know slavery is a subject that makes people feel horrible but there is a bigger picture here.
The civil war was 110% about slavery. The people involved all said so at the time.
People can say and believe what they want but all wars are bankers wars.
On August 16 2017 07:15 KwarK wrote: Pure nonsense. Antifa haven't been infecting Nazis with AIDS and removing the statues isn't censoring slavery, it's merely ending the celebration of it.
Wait, is this a real thing? Are they actually infecting people with AIDS? I can't read if this part is sarcasm
Of course it's not a real thing. It's the paranoid insane delusions of noidberg who appears to be the incestuous child of infowars and /r/t_d. But it is a real thing he believes.
Please ive been following these radical left groups for months and not only know their deep history and george soros fundage but all their dirty tricks as well. Hmm also i forgot to mention they use hydrochloric acid and mace against people which is a felony.
Cite one example of a Nazi who was deliberately infected by a needlestick from antifa.
Infected? The chance is low so i dont know if it germinated. They did however boast about using infected needles on twitter a few months ago.
On August 16 2017 07:15 KwarK wrote: Pure nonsense. Antifa haven't been infecting Nazis with AIDS and removing the statues isn't censoring slavery, it's merely ending the celebration of it.
Wait, is this a real thing? Are they actually infecting people with AIDS? I can't read if this part is sarcasm
Of course it's not a real thing. It's the paranoid insane delusions of noidberg who appears to be the incestuous child of infowars and /r/t_d. But it is a real thing he believes.
Please ive been following these radical left groups for months and not only know their deep history and george soros fundage but all their dirty tricks as well. Hmm also i forgot to mention they use hydrochloric acid and mace against people which is a felony.
You ever read /r/the_donald?
Not much anymore. Sometimes i enter to grab a link or a headline to an article.
On August 16 2017 06:23 Jacenoob wrote: Well it is 100% true that a lot of the violence was started by a section of the counter protestors.
That is not the reports I am hearing. From all reports, it is hard to tell who started anything, but the alt-right group was hyper aggressive and screaming racial slurs as passing blacks. I do know which side murdered someone and hit 19 people with a car.
I have absolutely no opinion on the removal of the stupid statue, really. And I also do not identify with the protestors in pretty much any way. But claiming that the counter protestors were peaceful is simply very untrue, that is all. They came with bats, some wearing combat gear. Of course the horrific terror attack overshadows everything. But still, claiming that Antifa and certain other groups were peaceful is frightenly dishonest. They came for violence.
You should have an opinion on removing said statue not for what it represents but censoring history is wrong. USA is suffering from heavy partisanship from the left as democrats in power that are guilty of their history want to censor it. If you remove history its bound to repeat itself, is that what you all want? Trumps winning of the election, the formation of the alt right are all because of this PC, partisanship nonsense and its all due to Obama sparking the division. Appeasement never works and thats all Obama ever did was appease terrorist orgs and people because it calmed their hurt feelings. I even heard he invited the man who dead cops from BLM(another terrorist org) into the white house. History is grotesque and we should never forget it, if you dont like it LEAVE THE USA. We arent china, we dont censor to appease the power and feelings of the capitalist communist collective. Get a grip on reality people. USA is a constitutional republic never forget it.
I taught US history. They can remove that statue, we won't forget Lee. He also isn't really worth all the celebration compared to other US historical figures. Plus, that statue was put up in the Jim Crow era, when the south was super nice to blacks, so it can be removed and given proper context in a museum.
Then lets have proper discourse and not allow protests to turn violent. You have to admit partisan politicians are guilty of this whether right or left. Theres no excuse to order the police to stand down and cause people to die to make political statement. Also the next day a statue remembering the dead confederate soldiers was torn, yes torn down and again the police did nothing.
When will when the law crack down on these thugs? People want a civil war?
The proper discourse was happening. The problem was that the remove side was winning. So the out of town nazi/kkk group showed up to do what Nazi skin heads and the KKK have always done. They don't like it when democracy doesn't go their way. That is why the civil war happened. The anti slavery party took power.
And the people who took down that statue were arrested.
Yeah but its their right to do so. And the left says worse in media outlets and does worse with their hired radical goon squads. And im aware if the right was in power it would be opposite land. As for the civil war i can say with absolute certainty the cause of the war was not about slavery. All wars are bankers wars and it was about the north taxing the south which infringes upon their states rights. The untied states itself would never revolted if not for such a high tax on the colonies. So I know slavery is a subject that makes people feel horrible but there is a bigger picture here.
The civil war was 110% about slavery. The people involved all said so at the time.
People can say and believe what they want but all wars are bankers wars.
Twitter is your source? Anyone could make a twitter account and claim that shit.
On August 16 2017 08:00 On_Slaught wrote: Sheesh. That press conference was bad and damaging even by Trump standards. Guy consistently fucks up whenever he goes of script. The footage of Kelly listening to the conference is hard to watch. If the guy has any self respect he'll resign.
Trump has ensured that everytime a white supremacist does something bad he will be blamed for the foreseeable future for fanning the white supremacists fire.
On August 16 2017 06:23 Jacenoob wrote: Well it is 100% true that a lot of the violence was started by a section of the counter protestors.
That is not the reports I am hearing. From all reports, it is hard to tell who started anything, but the alt-right group was hyper aggressive and screaming racial slurs as passing blacks. I do know which side murdered someone and hit 19 people with a car.
I have absolutely no opinion on the removal of the stupid statue, really. And I also do not identify with the protestors in pretty much any way. But claiming that the counter protestors were peaceful is simply very untrue, that is all. They came with bats, some wearing combat gear. Of course the horrific terror attack overshadows everything. But still, claiming that Antifa and certain other groups were peaceful is frightenly dishonest. They came for violence.
You should have an opinion on removing said statue not for what it represents but censoring history is wrong. USA is suffering from heavy partisanship from the left as democrats in power that are guilty of their history want to censor it. If you remove history its bound to repeat itself, is that what you all want? Trumps winning of the election, the formation of the alt right are all because of this PC, partisanship nonsense and its all due to Obama sparking the division. Appeasement never works and thats all Obama ever did was appease terrorist orgs and people because it calmed their hurt feelings. I even heard he invited the man who dead cops from BLM(another terrorist org) into the white house. History is grotesque and we should never forget it, if you dont like it LEAVE THE USA. We arent china, we dont censor to appease the power and feelings of the capitalist communist collective. Get a grip on reality people. USA is a constitutional republic never forget it.
I taught US history. They can remove that statue, we won't forget Lee. He also isn't really worth all the celebration compared to other US historical figures. Plus, that statue was put up in the Jim Crow era, when the south was super nice to blacks, so it can be removed and given proper context in a museum.
Then lets have proper discourse and not allow protests to turn violent. You have to admit partisan politicians are guilty of this whether right or left. Theres no excuse to order the police to stand down and cause people to die to make political statement. Also the next day a statue remembering the dead confederate soldiers was torn, yes torn down and again the police did nothing.
When will when the law crack down on these thugs? People want a civil war?
The proper discourse was happening. The problem was that the remove side was winning. So the out of town nazi/kkk group showed up to do what Nazi skin heads and the KKK have always done. They don't like it when democracy doesn't go their way. That is why the civil war happened. The anti slavery party took power.
And the people who took down that statue were arrested.
Yeah but its their right to do so. And the left says worse in media outlets and does worse with their hired radical goon squads. And im aware if the right was in power it would be opposite land. As for the civil war i can say with absolute certainty the cause of the war was not about slavery. All wars are bankers wars and it was about the north taxing the south which infringes upon their states rights. The untied states itself would never revolted if not for such a high tax on the colonies. So I know slavery is a subject that makes people feel horrible but there is a bigger picture here.
The civil war was 110% about slavery. The people involved all said so at the time.
People can say and believe what they want but all wars are bankers wars.
We've been needing this perspective to balance GH's (and more recently Wulfey's) for a while now. Our thread American right of the aisle representation has been lacking the equivalent flavor of crazy.
On August 16 2017 07:15 KwarK wrote: Pure nonsense. Antifa haven't been infecting Nazis with AIDS and removing the statues isn't censoring slavery, it's merely ending the celebration of it.
Wait, is this a real thing? Are they actually infecting people with AIDS? I can't read if this part is sarcasm
Of course it's not a real thing. It's the paranoid insane delusions of noidberg who appears to be the incestuous child of infowars and /r/t_d. But it is a real thing he believes.
Please ive been following these radical left groups for months and not only know their deep history and george soros fundage but all their dirty tricks as well. Hmm also i forgot to mention they use hydrochloric acid and mace against people which is a felony.
Cite one example of a Nazi who was deliberately infected by a needlestick from antifa.
Infected? The chance is low so i dont know if it germinated. They did however boast about using infected needles on twitter a few months ago.
On August 16 2017 07:15 KwarK wrote: Pure nonsense. Antifa haven't been infecting Nazis with AIDS and removing the statues isn't censoring slavery, it's merely ending the celebration of it.
Wait, is this a real thing? Are they actually infecting people with AIDS? I can't read if this part is sarcasm
Of course it's not a real thing. It's the paranoid insane delusions of noidberg who appears to be the incestuous child of infowars and /r/t_d. But it is a real thing he believes.
Please ive been following these radical left groups for months and not only know their deep history and george soros fundage but all their dirty tricks as well. Hmm also i forgot to mention they use hydrochloric acid and mace against people which is a felony.
You ever read /r/the_donald?
Not much anymore. Sometimes i enter to grab a link or a headline to an article.
On August 16 2017 06:23 Jacenoob wrote: Well it is 100% true that a lot of the violence was started by a section of the counter protestors.
That is not the reports I am hearing. From all reports, it is hard to tell who started anything, but the alt-right group was hyper aggressive and screaming racial slurs as passing blacks. I do know which side murdered someone and hit 19 people with a car.
I have absolutely no opinion on the removal of the stupid statue, really. And I also do not identify with the protestors in pretty much any way. But claiming that the counter protestors were peaceful is simply very untrue, that is all. They came with bats, some wearing combat gear. Of course the horrific terror attack overshadows everything. But still, claiming that Antifa and certain other groups were peaceful is frightenly dishonest. They came for violence.
You should have an opinion on removing said statue not for what it represents but censoring history is wrong. USA is suffering from heavy partisanship from the left as democrats in power that are guilty of their history want to censor it. If you remove history its bound to repeat itself, is that what you all want? Trumps winning of the election, the formation of the alt right are all because of this PC, partisanship nonsense and its all due to Obama sparking the division. Appeasement never works and thats all Obama ever did was appease terrorist orgs and people because it calmed their hurt feelings. I even heard he invited the man who dead cops from BLM(another terrorist org) into the white house. History is grotesque and we should never forget it, if you dont like it LEAVE THE USA. We arent china, we dont censor to appease the power and feelings of the capitalist communist collective. Get a grip on reality people. USA is a constitutional republic never forget it.
I taught US history. They can remove that statue, we won't forget Lee. He also isn't really worth all the celebration compared to other US historical figures. Plus, that statue was put up in the Jim Crow era, when the south was super nice to blacks, so it can be removed and given proper context in a museum.
Then lets have proper discourse and not allow protests to turn violent. You have to admit partisan politicians are guilty of this whether right or left. Theres no excuse to order the police to stand down and cause people to die to make political statement. Also the next day a statue remembering the dead confederate soldiers was torn, yes torn down and again the police did nothing.
When will when the law crack down on these thugs? People want a civil war?
The proper discourse was happening. The problem was that the remove side was winning. So the out of town nazi/kkk group showed up to do what Nazi skin heads and the KKK have always done. They don't like it when democracy doesn't go their way. That is why the civil war happened. The anti slavery party took power.
And the people who took down that statue were arrested.
Yeah but its their right to do so. And the left says worse in media outlets and does worse with their hired radical goon squads. And im aware if the right was in power it would be opposite land. As for the civil war i can say with absolute certainty the cause of the war was not about slavery. All wars are bankers wars and it was about the north taxing the south which infringes upon their states rights. The untied states itself would never revolted if not for such a high tax on the colonies. So I know slavery is a subject that makes people feel horrible but there is a bigger picture here.
The civil war was 110% about slavery. The people involved all said so at the time.
People can say and believe what they want but all wars are bankers wars.
If you can't manage infected, give me a source for anyone being deliberately exposed to HIV by antifa.
If you can't even manage that do you think you could perhaps admit that it never actually happened? Because it seems like the kind of thing that we would all know about had it happened. Biological warfare HIV terror attack kinda thing. That'd be in the news.
Yeah, I saw this image. But it is so easy to make a situation look extremely misleading from a picture. There have been some pretty incredible examples of some meeting between some group of people with entirely different facial expressions on left/right sites. I assumed by "footage", there was some kinda video showing his prolonged response.
On August 16 2017 06:32 Plansix wrote: [quote] That is not the reports I am hearing. From all reports, it is hard to tell who started anything, but the alt-right group was hyper aggressive and screaming racial slurs as passing blacks. I do know which side murdered someone and hit 19 people with a car.
I have absolutely no opinion on the removal of the stupid statue, really. And I also do not identify with the protestors in pretty much any way. But claiming that the counter protestors were peaceful is simply very untrue, that is all. They came with bats, some wearing combat gear. Of course the horrific terror attack overshadows everything. But still, claiming that Antifa and certain other groups were peaceful is frightenly dishonest. They came for violence.
You should have an opinion on removing said statue not for what it represents but censoring history is wrong. USA is suffering from heavy partisanship from the left as democrats in power that are guilty of their history want to censor it. If you remove history its bound to repeat itself, is that what you all want? Trumps winning of the election, the formation of the alt right are all because of this PC, partisanship nonsense and its all due to Obama sparking the division. Appeasement never works and thats all Obama ever did was appease terrorist orgs and people because it calmed their hurt feelings. I even heard he invited the man who dead cops from BLM(another terrorist org) into the white house. History is grotesque and we should never forget it, if you dont like it LEAVE THE USA. We arent china, we dont censor to appease the power and feelings of the capitalist communist collective. Get a grip on reality people. USA is a constitutional republic never forget it.
I taught US history. They can remove that statue, we won't forget Lee. He also isn't really worth all the celebration compared to other US historical figures. Plus, that statue was put up in the Jim Crow era, when the south was super nice to blacks, so it can be removed and given proper context in a museum.
Then lets have proper discourse and not allow protests to turn violent. You have to admit partisan politicians are guilty of this whether right or left. Theres no excuse to order the police to stand down and cause people to die to make political statement. Also the next day a statue remembering the dead confederate soldiers was torn, yes torn down and again the police did nothing.
When will when the law crack down on these thugs? People want a civil war?
The proper discourse was happening. The problem was that the remove side was winning. So the out of town nazi/kkk group showed up to do what Nazi skin heads and the KKK have always done. They don't like it when democracy doesn't go their way. That is why the civil war happened. The anti slavery party took power.
And the people who took down that statue were arrested.
Yeah but its their right to do so. And the left says worse in media outlets and does worse with their hired radical goon squads. And im aware if the right was in power it would be opposite land. As for the civil war i can say with absolute certainty the cause of the war was not about slavery. All wars are bankers wars and it was about the north taxing the south which infringes upon their states rights. The untied states itself would never revolted if not for such a high tax on the colonies. So I know slavery is a subject that makes people feel horrible but there is a bigger picture here.
The civil war was 110% about slavery. The people involved all said so at the time.
People can say and believe what they want but all wars are bankers wars.
We've been needing this perspective to balance GH's (and more recently Wulfey's) for a while now. Our thread American right of the aisle representation has been lacking the equivalent flavor of crazy.
Yeah, cause like noidberg hates the Jews and GH thinks black people should have civil rights. Both sides just need to calm down. Both sides.
On August 16 2017 08:00 On_Slaught wrote: Sheesh. That press conference was bad and damaging even by Trump standards. Guy consistently fucks up whenever he goes of script. The footage of Kelly listening to the conference is hard to watch. If the guy has any self respect he'll resign.
Trump has ensured that everytime a white supremacist does something bad he will be blamed for the foreseeable future for fanning the white supremacists fire.
Link to footage?
Can't link atm, on phone. It is one bunch of gifs on Twitter. I'd just Google it.
On August 16 2017 07:15 KwarK wrote: Pure nonsense. Antifa haven't been infecting Nazis with AIDS and removing the statues isn't censoring slavery, it's merely ending the celebration of it.
Also, no partisan politician in the US supports antifa, not even tacictly or jokingly like Trump does white supremacists.
Funny that Trump publicly condemns both groups yet you still think he plays sides. These partisan hacks dont denounce Anifta or BLM either. Instead they look the other other way even if someone dies. Long as right wing views are silenced its a success in their book and thats unconstitutional. They even have the gall to try and blame accidents on the right for these deaths and violence when partisan mayors look the other way.
On August 16 2017 07:44 Odawg27 wrote: Do the counter protesters shout Nazi slogans, talk about white supremacy or genocide against other races?
Sure these slogans were despicable and the right / conservatives really need to oust those who support these ideas. But I did not deny that. But whatever the counter protestors shout, it also does not justify violence.
On August 16 2017 07:44 Odawg27 wrote: It wasn't a counter-protester who ran into people. It was a Unite the Right protester, one seen prominently with them, whose facebook page is full of similar memes, statements and articles from the alt-right. You're trying to wave him off as just some crazy person. He was influenced by these Unite the Right protesters. There are many supporters and organizers of that rally supporting the man or happy he did it.
See that is the point. Of course he was a crazy person. But last time it was whe baseball shooter who was also influenced by left memes about how all Repulicans are evil racists trying to destroy the country. What else is there to do other than to wave him off as a crazy person, too? And yes there were also people who supported the shooting, and not too few.
On August 16 2017 07:44 Odawg27 wrote: You are attempting to make both sides equal to each other. The rhetoric from the protesters at the Unite the Right rally was overwhelmingly violent, racist, homophobic and dangerous. Did fights break out between both groups, of course, but to say that means they're exactly the same is wrong. One side is talking about forcefully and violently taking back their country or making America great again. One side is calling for white supremacy, calling for genocide, espousing hate for media and anyone who disagrees with them. That's the Unite the Right rally. Counter-protesters and the left aren't even close. The only thing you could even call on is Antifa. Antifa is a loosely organized group that's more or less just up for causing chaos. Is it wrong, yeah when they destroy property, no duh. But they're not calling for the same things as the white supremacists and neo-nazis. What massive violence and extremism problem do you believe is being ignored? Where's your proof? And if the left has that problem, then the right has an even bigger problem with the white supremacists and neo-nazis since these rallies have been filled with hateful, violent rhetoric with supporters preparing for civil war and threatening those they disagree with.
My point is NOT to make both sides equal. Morally of course the KKK and the Nazis are worse than Antifa. My point is that the constant apologetic and almost complete ignoring of left-wing violence is bad. In that one point Trump was certainly right to call out the media for not covering it nearly enough. The violence in Charlestonville did come from both sides. The counter protestors were armed and in combat gear and they used their bats and it was not just a small minority that behaved like that.
On August 16 2017 08:15 TheTenthDoc wrote: Trump lost another one or two members of his jobs council, looks like. Wonder if it will get down to just one person.
It's ok. We can just add "manufacturing in the US" to Kushner's to-do list.
I have absolutely no opinion on the removal of the stupid statue, really. And I also do not identify with the protestors in pretty much any way. But claiming that the counter protestors were peaceful is simply very untrue, that is all. They came with bats, some wearing combat gear. Of course the horrific terror attack overshadows everything. But still, claiming that Antifa and certain other groups were peaceful is frightenly dishonest. They came for violence.
You should have an opinion on removing said statue not for what it represents but censoring history is wrong. USA is suffering from heavy partisanship from the left as democrats in power that are guilty of their history want to censor it. If you remove history its bound to repeat itself, is that what you all want? Trumps winning of the election, the formation of the alt right are all because of this PC, partisanship nonsense and its all due to Obama sparking the division. Appeasement never works and thats all Obama ever did was appease terrorist orgs and people because it calmed their hurt feelings. I even heard he invited the man who dead cops from BLM(another terrorist org) into the white house. History is grotesque and we should never forget it, if you dont like it LEAVE THE USA. We arent china, we dont censor to appease the power and feelings of the capitalist communist collective. Get a grip on reality people. USA is a constitutional republic never forget it.
I taught US history. They can remove that statue, we won't forget Lee. He also isn't really worth all the celebration compared to other US historical figures. Plus, that statue was put up in the Jim Crow era, when the south was super nice to blacks, so it can be removed and given proper context in a museum.
Then lets have proper discourse and not allow protests to turn violent. You have to admit partisan politicians are guilty of this whether right or left. Theres no excuse to order the police to stand down and cause people to die to make political statement. Also the next day a statue remembering the dead confederate soldiers was torn, yes torn down and again the police did nothing.
When will when the law crack down on these thugs? People want a civil war?
The proper discourse was happening. The problem was that the remove side was winning. So the out of town nazi/kkk group showed up to do what Nazi skin heads and the KKK have always done. They don't like it when democracy doesn't go their way. That is why the civil war happened. The anti slavery party took power.
And the people who took down that statue were arrested.
Yeah but its their right to do so. And the left says worse in media outlets and does worse with their hired radical goon squads. And im aware if the right was in power it would be opposite land. As for the civil war i can say with absolute certainty the cause of the war was not about slavery. All wars are bankers wars and it was about the north taxing the south which infringes upon their states rights. The untied states itself would never revolted if not for such a high tax on the colonies. So I know slavery is a subject that makes people feel horrible but there is a bigger picture here.
The civil war was 110% about slavery. The people involved all said so at the time.
People can say and believe what they want but all wars are bankers wars.
We've been needing this perspective to balance GH's (and more recently Wulfey's) for a while now. Our thread American right of the aisle representation has been lacking the equivalent flavor of crazy.
Yeah, cause like noidberg hates the Jews and GH thinks black people should have civil rights. Both sides just need to calm down. Both sides.
Now that they have been sufficiently demonstrated to be awful, whataboutism and false equivalences are in heavy play.
On August 16 2017 07:15 KwarK wrote: Pure nonsense. Antifa haven't been infecting Nazis with AIDS and removing the statues isn't censoring slavery, it's merely ending the celebration of it.
Wait, is this a real thing? Are they actually infecting people with AIDS? I can't read if this part is sarcasm
Of course it's not a real thing. It's the paranoid insane delusions of noidberg who appears to be the incestuous child of infowars and /r/t_d. But it is a real thing he believes.
Please ive been following these radical left groups for months and not only know their deep history and george soros fundage but all their dirty tricks as well. Hmm also i forgot to mention they use hydrochloric acid and mace against people which is a felony.
Cite one example of a Nazi who was deliberately infected by a needlestick from antifa.
Infected? The chance is low so i dont know if it germinated. They did however boast about using infected needles on twitter a few months ago.
On August 16 2017 07:54 Mohdoo wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:41 Noidberg wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:21 KwarK wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:16 IyMoon wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:15 KwarK wrote: Pure nonsense. Antifa haven't been infecting Nazis with AIDS and removing the statues isn't censoring slavery, it's merely ending the celebration of it.
Wait, is this a real thing? Are they actually infecting people with AIDS? I can't read if this part is sarcasm
Of course it's not a real thing. It's the paranoid insane delusions of noidberg who appears to be the incestuous child of infowars and /r/t_d. But it is a real thing he believes.
Please ive been following these radical left groups for months and not only know their deep history and george soros fundage but all their dirty tricks as well. Hmm also i forgot to mention they use hydrochloric acid and mace against people which is a felony.
You ever read /r/the_donald?
Not much anymore. Sometimes i enter to grab a link or a headline to an article.
On August 16 2017 07:54 KwarK wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:52 Noidberg wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:39 Plansix wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:30 Noidberg wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:18 Plansix wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:11 Noidberg wrote:
On August 16 2017 06:50 Jacenoob wrote:
On August 16 2017 06:32 Plansix wrote: [quote] That is not the reports I am hearing. From all reports, it is hard to tell who started anything, but the alt-right group was hyper aggressive and screaming racial slurs as passing blacks. I do know which side murdered someone and hit 19 people with a car.
I have absolutely no opinion on the removal of the stupid statue, really. And I also do not identify with the protestors in pretty much any way. But claiming that the counter protestors were peaceful is simply very untrue, that is all. They came with bats, some wearing combat gear. Of course the horrific terror attack overshadows everything. But still, claiming that Antifa and certain other groups were peaceful is frightenly dishonest. They came for violence.
You should have an opinion on removing said statue not for what it represents but censoring history is wrong. USA is suffering from heavy partisanship from the left as democrats in power that are guilty of their history want to censor it. If you remove history its bound to repeat itself, is that what you all want? Trumps winning of the election, the formation of the alt right are all because of this PC, partisanship nonsense and its all due to Obama sparking the division. Appeasement never works and thats all Obama ever did was appease terrorist orgs and people because it calmed their hurt feelings. I even heard he invited the man who dead cops from BLM(another terrorist org) into the white house. History is grotesque and we should never forget it, if you dont like it LEAVE THE USA. We arent china, we dont censor to appease the power and feelings of the capitalist communist collective. Get a grip on reality people. USA is a constitutional republic never forget it.
I taught US history. They can remove that statue, we won't forget Lee. He also isn't really worth all the celebration compared to other US historical figures. Plus, that statue was put up in the Jim Crow era, when the south was super nice to blacks, so it can be removed and given proper context in a museum.
Then lets have proper discourse and not allow protests to turn violent. You have to admit partisan politicians are guilty of this whether right or left. Theres no excuse to order the police to stand down and cause people to die to make political statement. Also the next day a statue remembering the dead confederate soldiers was torn, yes torn down and again the police did nothing.
When will when the law crack down on these thugs? People want a civil war?
The proper discourse was happening. The problem was that the remove side was winning. So the out of town nazi/kkk group showed up to do what Nazi skin heads and the KKK have always done. They don't like it when democracy doesn't go their way. That is why the civil war happened. The anti slavery party took power.
And the people who took down that statue were arrested.
Yeah but its their right to do so. And the left says worse in media outlets and does worse with their hired radical goon squads. And im aware if the right was in power it would be opposite land. As for the civil war i can say with absolute certainty the cause of the war was not about slavery. All wars are bankers wars and it was about the north taxing the south which infringes upon their states rights. The untied states itself would never revolted if not for such a high tax on the colonies. So I know slavery is a subject that makes people feel horrible but there is a bigger picture here.
The civil war was 110% about slavery. The people involved all said so at the time.
People can say and believe what they want but all wars are bankers wars.
If you can't manage infected, give me a source for anyone being deliberately exposed to HIV by antifa.
If you can't even manage that do you think you could perhaps admit that it never actually happened? Because it seems like the kind of thing that we would all know about had it happened. Biological warfare HIV terror attack kinda thing. That'd be in the news.
Well i do know Antifa uses many forms of violence and they did boast about using infected needles on twitter so its not far fetched as stab wounds are very common. Also Trump calls the media fake news for a reason. If it doesnt fit their agenda you wont hear about it. At the unite the right rally "Baked Alaska" a youtube white nationalist who attended the rally was doused with Hydrochloric acid.
At least we have social media to tell the real story.
On August 16 2017 07:15 KwarK wrote: Pure nonsense. Antifa haven't been infecting Nazis with AIDS and removing the statues isn't censoring slavery, it's merely ending the celebration of it.
Wait, is this a real thing? Are they actually infecting people with AIDS? I can't read if this part is sarcasm
Of course it's not a real thing. It's the paranoid insane delusions of noidberg who appears to be the incestuous child of infowars and /r/t_d. But it is a real thing he believes.
Please ive been following these radical left groups for months and not only know their deep history and george soros fundage but all their dirty tricks as well. Hmm also i forgot to mention they use hydrochloric acid and mace against people which is a felony.
Cite one example of a Nazi who was deliberately infected by a needlestick from antifa.
Infected? The chance is low so i dont know if it germinated. They did however boast about using infected needles on twitter a few months ago.
On August 16 2017 07:54 Mohdoo wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:41 Noidberg wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:21 KwarK wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:16 IyMoon wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:15 KwarK wrote: Pure nonsense. Antifa haven't been infecting Nazis with AIDS and removing the statues isn't censoring slavery, it's merely ending the celebration of it.
Wait, is this a real thing? Are they actually infecting people with AIDS? I can't read if this part is sarcasm
Of course it's not a real thing. It's the paranoid insane delusions of noidberg who appears to be the incestuous child of infowars and /r/t_d. But it is a real thing he believes.
Please ive been following these radical left groups for months and not only know their deep history and george soros fundage but all their dirty tricks as well. Hmm also i forgot to mention they use hydrochloric acid and mace against people which is a felony.
You ever read /r/the_donald?
Not much anymore. Sometimes i enter to grab a link or a headline to an article.
On August 16 2017 07:54 KwarK wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:52 Noidberg wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:39 Plansix wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:30 Noidberg wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:18 Plansix wrote:
On August 16 2017 07:11 Noidberg wrote:
On August 16 2017 06:50 Jacenoob wrote: [quote]
I have absolutely no opinion on the removal of the stupid statue, really. And I also do not identify with the protestors in pretty much any way. But claiming that the counter protestors were peaceful is simply very untrue, that is all. They came with bats, some wearing combat gear. Of course the horrific terror attack overshadows everything. But still, claiming that Antifa and certain other groups were peaceful is frightenly dishonest. They came for violence.
You should have an opinion on removing said statue not for what it represents but censoring history is wrong. USA is suffering from heavy partisanship from the left as democrats in power that are guilty of their history want to censor it. If you remove history its bound to repeat itself, is that what you all want? Trumps winning of the election, the formation of the alt right are all because of this PC, partisanship nonsense and its all due to Obama sparking the division. Appeasement never works and thats all Obama ever did was appease terrorist orgs and people because it calmed their hurt feelings. I even heard he invited the man who dead cops from BLM(another terrorist org) into the white house. History is grotesque and we should never forget it, if you dont like it LEAVE THE USA. We arent china, we dont censor to appease the power and feelings of the capitalist communist collective. Get a grip on reality people. USA is a constitutional republic never forget it.
I taught US history. They can remove that statue, we won't forget Lee. He also isn't really worth all the celebration compared to other US historical figures. Plus, that statue was put up in the Jim Crow era, when the south was super nice to blacks, so it can be removed and given proper context in a museum.
Then lets have proper discourse and not allow protests to turn violent. You have to admit partisan politicians are guilty of this whether right or left. Theres no excuse to order the police to stand down and cause people to die to make political statement. Also the next day a statue remembering the dead confederate soldiers was torn, yes torn down and again the police did nothing.
When will when the law crack down on these thugs? People want a civil war?
The proper discourse was happening. The problem was that the remove side was winning. So the out of town nazi/kkk group showed up to do what Nazi skin heads and the KKK have always done. They don't like it when democracy doesn't go their way. That is why the civil war happened. The anti slavery party took power.
And the people who took down that statue were arrested.
Yeah but its their right to do so. And the left says worse in media outlets and does worse with their hired radical goon squads. And im aware if the right was in power it would be opposite land. As for the civil war i can say with absolute certainty the cause of the war was not about slavery. All wars are bankers wars and it was about the north taxing the south which infringes upon their states rights. The untied states itself would never revolted if not for such a high tax on the colonies. So I know slavery is a subject that makes people feel horrible but there is a bigger picture here.
The civil war was 110% about slavery. The people involved all said so at the time.
People can say and believe what they want but all wars are bankers wars.
If you can't manage infected, give me a source for anyone being deliberately exposed to HIV by antifa.
If you can't even manage that do you think you could perhaps admit that it never actually happened? Because it seems like the kind of thing that we would all know about had it happened. Biological warfare HIV terror attack kinda thing. That'd be in the news.
Well i do know Antifa uses many forms of violence and they did boast about using infected needles on twitter so its not far fetched as stab wounds are very common. Also Trump calls the media fake news for a reason. If it doesnt fit their agenda you wont hear about it. At the unite the right rally "Baked Alaska" a youtube white nationalist who attended the rally was doused with Hydrochloric acid.
At least we have social media to tell the real story.
So you're saying that you personally know antifa uses many forms of violence and biological warfare is a form of violence and HIV needles are a form of biological warfare and therefore you personally know that antifa use hiv needles?
EPT
