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ZerOCoolSC2
9037 Posts
On August 16 2017 06:35 Plansix wrote: If you fear the change of culture, it is fine to march with white nationalist, Nazis and the KKK. That is what Trump just argued. It's hard to refrain from being cynical in the moment, but man, I'm getting a Rosewood, MS vibe. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On August 16 2017 06:35 Plansix wrote: https://twitter.com/ryanbeckwith/status/897569494826008576 If you fear the change of culture, it is fine to march with white nationalist, Nazis and the KKK. That is what Trump just argued. That's not what Trump argued so much as he correctly observed that the assault on culture by the radical left is driving people towards right wing extremist groups. If you take identity politics to its logical conclusion, we end up with white people forming their own special interest groups to resist the special interest groups that have already been formed by minority factions. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
I just kind of assumed she'd enjoy a little buoyancy as Trump flails around, but surprise surprise. Also, Schumer's ready to move on. Or as Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer told the Washington Post last month: “When you lose to somebody who has 40-percent popularity, you don’t blame other things -- Comey, Russia -- you blame yourself.” | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
On August 16 2017 03:42 KwarK wrote: I'm pretty sure the Germans never commemorated the Wehrmacht in the first place. Apart from our military. Haha. Sad! | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9037 Posts
On August 16 2017 06:42 xDaunt wrote: That's not what Trump argued so much as he correctly observed that the assault on culture by the radical left is driving people towards right wing extremist groups. If you take identity politics to its logical conclusion, we end up with white people forming their own special interest groups to resist the special interest groups that have already been formed by minority factions. Yes. American culture is at stake here. No, your eroding white populace's stranglehold on everything is at stake here. Diverse interests in America runs counter to what you feel is rightfully yours, so you want to attack it with anything you can. Be sure, American culture is not under attack, and neither is WC. White male power is under attack. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On August 16 2017 06:42 Danglars wrote: https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/897528613402181632 I just kind of assumed she'd enjoy a little buoyancy as Trump flails around, but surprise surprise. Also, Schumer's ready to move on. I see we're trying to distract from something here. | ||
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
REPORTER: Mr. President, have you spoken to the family of the victim of the car attack? TRUMP: No. I will be reaching out, I’ll be reaching out. Haven't they suffered enough? | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On August 16 2017 06:42 Danglars wrote: https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/897528613402181632 I just kind of assumed she'd enjoy a little buoyancy as Trump flails around, but surprise surprise. Also, Schumer's ready to move on. and yet somehow, you aren't able to move on. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
I don't think I would've ever seen this coming a year ago. I bet on Q3 for when Trump is kicked out of office, and I was worried for a bit there, but I think we're well on the way to getting there. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 16 2017 06:42 xDaunt wrote: That's not what Trump argued so much as he correctly observed that the assault on culture by the radical left is driving people towards right wing extremist groups. If you take identity politics to its logical conclusion, we end up with white people forming their own special interest groups to resist the special interest groups that have already been formed by minority factions. Get over it, bunch of bitches. Who cares? You can’t say Marry Christmas(fake) and scary people who pray five times a day move to town? So what? Gay people are now in out in the open and super gay. Transgender people want to not be murdered in bathrooms. Deal with it. As a straight, white, Christian male, get over yourselves. Lots of things change people’s lives. Some people lose whole limbs in war. Or other people find out they were adopted. None of those things justifies siding with a bunch of fucking fascists skin heads. None of that justifies this. Just stop apologizing for siding with people who would destroy this country. | ||
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Jacenoob
299 Posts
On August 16 2017 06:32 Plansix wrote: That is not the reports I am hearing. From all reports, it is hard to tell who started anything, but the alt-right group was hyper aggressive and screaming racial slurs as passing blacks. I do know which side murdered someone and hit 19 people with a car. I have absolutely no opinion on the removal of the stupid statue, really. And I also do not identify with the protestors in pretty much any way. But claiming that the counter protestors were peaceful is simply very untrue, that is all. They came with bats, some wearing combat gear. Of course the horrific terror attack overshadows everything. But still, claiming that Antifa and certain other groups were peaceful is frightenly dishonest. They came for violence. For example watch this: https://streamable.com/svxcr | ||
KwarK
United States43737 Posts
On August 16 2017 06:42 xDaunt wrote: That's not what Trump argued so much as he correctly observed that the assault on culture by the radical left is driving people towards right wing extremist groups. If you take identity politics to its logical conclusion, we end up with white people forming their own special interest groups to resist the special interest groups that have already been formed by minority factions. You can't pin the rise of fascism in America on black folks wanting the police to stop shooting them so often. | ||
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Odawg27
United States191 Posts
On August 16 2017 06:50 Jacenoob wrote: I have absolutely no opinion on the removal of the stupid statue, really. And I also do not identify with the protestors in pretty much any way. But claiming that the counter protestors were peaceful is simply very untrue, that is all. They came with bats, some wearing combat gear. Of course the horrific terror attack overshadows everything. But still, claiming that Antifa and certain other groups were peaceful is frightenly dishonest. They came for violence. For example watch this: https://streamable.com/svxcr That's not what he said and you know it. This idea that because there were counter-protesters who either started scuffles or fought back is equal or as important as the person who was part of the "Unite the Right" rally running over 20 people, killing 1 is wrong. They're not the same. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 16 2017 06:50 Jacenoob wrote: I have absolutely no opinion on the removal of the stupid statue, really. And I also do not identify with the protestors in pretty much any way. But claiming that the counter protestors were peaceful is simply very untrue, that is all. They came with bats, some wearing combat gear. Of course the horrific terror attack overshadows everything. But still, claiming that Antifa and certain other groups were peaceful is frightenly dishonest. They came for violence. For example watch this: https://streamable.com/svxcr I follow the news, I don’t need a super cut from an unknown source. I am fully aware that some of the counter protesters were also prepare for violence. The NYT reported on it and said they were the minority of the counter protesters. This was backed up by NPR on scene reporters. But one side are Nazis and KKK members who surrounded a group of protesters the night before with torches. They surrounded the group of student protesters. The KKK marching with torches has a long history of people getting burned. The images are terrifying. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On August 16 2017 06:45 NewSunshine wrote: I see we're trying to distract from something here. All I'm seeing is the two minutes of hate broadcast on Trump in its third day. If you thought it was too tepid a denial or just fine, chances are you believe the same exact thing today as days ago. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On August 16 2017 06:48 zlefin wrote: and yet somehow, you aren't able to move on. Trump must be doing a good job. Your thoughts? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
He is saying this in response to the leader of his party. | ||
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Noidberg
United States17 Posts
On August 16 2017 06:50 Jacenoob wrote: I have absolutely no opinion on the removal of the stupid statue, really. And I also do not identify with the protestors in pretty much any way. But claiming that the counter protestors were peaceful is simply very untrue, that is all. They came with bats, some wearing combat gear. Of course the horrific terror attack overshadows everything. But still, claiming that Antifa and certain other groups were peaceful is frightenly dishonest. They came for violence. For example watch this: https://streamable.com/svxcr You should have an opinion on removing said statue not for what it represents but censoring history is wrong. USA is suffering from heavy partisanship from the left as democrats in power that are guilty of their history want to censor it. If you remove history its bound to repeat itself, is that what you all want? Trumps winning of the election, the formation of the alt right are all because of this PC, partisanship nonsense and its all due to Obama sparking the division. Appeasement never works and thats all Obama ever did was appease terrorist orgs and people because it calmed their hurt feelings. I even heard he invited the man who dead cops from BLM(another terrorist org) into the white house. History is grotesque and we should never forget it, if you dont like it LEAVE THE USA. We arent china, we dont censor to appease the power and feelings of the capitalist communist collective. Get a grip on reality people. USA is a constitutional republic never forget it. As for ANIFTA yet another terrorist org supported by partisan politicians. They not only use bats but they throw feces bombs. urine bags and are known to carry around knives and needles to infect people with HIV. The disfranchised whites(nazi, white nationalist, civic nationalist, whatever) we there to support their own right to exist and to protect history itself, even having a permit for it. The mayor ordered the police to stand down 30 minutes before the rally was scheduled to commence which allowed both radical left and right group to meet in order to give reason to cancel the event. The mayor is to blame for this fiasco, the mayor is to blame for the unfortunate death in the car accident which may or may not be murder but rather manslaughter. Trump is 100% correct today in everything he said stop playing sides and respect everyones right to protest. | ||
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