EPTAnd if they are no you have to wonder where these leaks are coming from. I highly doubt they come from Muellers side, considering the caliber of team he has built and the risk to their entire career if they are caught. Much more likely they come from the other side of the investigation considering the internal conflicts going on.
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Gorsameth
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And if they are no you have to wonder where these leaks are coming from. I highly doubt they come from Muellers side, considering the caliber of team he has built and the risk to their entire career if they are caught. Much more likely they come from the other side of the investigation considering the internal conflicts going on. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8224 Posts
On August 05 2017 08:12 KwarK wrote: Like literally all that has happened is the black man has gone away and now suddenly everything is wonderful. This is the same station that spent the last 8 years insisting that things had never been worse. One would have to be a serious tool to even start taking anything Fox says seriously. Amazing how the side supported by the most ruthless and influential propaganda apparatus in US history is screaming "fake news!!!" all day long. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On August 05 2017 12:10 LegalLord wrote: So, I'm a wee bit curious: are the rumors surrounding the Mueller probe supposed to be public, or are these leaks just for fun? I was kind of surprised to see the stories saying their source is "lawyers involved in the case" so you would have to think it's Mueller's lawyers. Maybe they figure that if it's out like this in the media that there's something serious, they're insulating Mueller from being fired because it would look like a major coverup if he was fired. Leaks seem to be the most powerful weapon when it comes to Trump. It makes sense since he's the TV president - the media is the stage of the fight. | ||
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a_flayer
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On August 05 2017 18:52 Gorsameth wrote: Are subpoenas public? Because then you just need to do the work in finding them which journalists have no problem with. And if they are no you have to wonder where these leaks are coming from. I highly doubt they come from Muellers side, considering the caliber of team he has built and the risk to their entire career if they are caught. Much more likely they come from the other side of the investigation considering the internal conflicts going on. Lol, it's not as if he has some elite super human squad of lawyers. They're just people. You sound like some sort of devout believer. Also, other side of the investigation? What are you on about? There's an investigation that's looking to exonerate Trump? On August 05 2017 22:39 Doodsmack wrote: Trump's vacation might be reasonable after all; the West Wing is being renovated. Didn't they renovate the West Wing in 2012? Are they painting the West Wing in that nice reasonable gold color or something? | ||
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Gorsameth
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On August 05 2017 22:43 a_flayer wrote: Lol, it's not as if he has some elite super human squad of lawyers. They're just people. You sound like some sort of devout believer. Also, other side of the investigation? What are you on about? There's an investigation that's looking to exonerate Trump? Gee I wonder if I mean the people being investigated, nah that makes to much sense. No their not super humans but I believe in basic cost/benefit. What do these lawyers gain from leaking compared to what it will cost them if their caught. | ||
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SB43 From what I undestand, this is restricted to workplace discrimination. It also places the burden of proof on the employee to prove that he/she was discriminated against because of race. Employers can say it was a quality issue and get away with it. | ||
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
On August 05 2017 22:43 a_flayer wrote: Lol, it's not as if he has some elite super human squad of lawyers. They're just people. You sound like some sort of devout believer. Also, other side of the investigation? What are you on about? There's an investigation that's looking to exonerate Trump? Didn't they renovate the West Wing in 2012? Are they painting the West Wing in that nice reasonable gold color or something? They have to outfit the whole WhiteHouse with those baby-safe foam corners so Trump doesn't hurt himself. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
A Republican donor in Virginia has filed a lawsuit against the national and Virginia Republican parties, accusing them of fraud and racketeering for raising millions of dollars in donations knowing they wouldn't be able to repeal ObamaCare. The Virginian-Pilot reports that Bob Heghmann, a retired attorney in Virginia Beach, filed the lawsuit in U.S. District Court on Thursday. The suit blasts the Republican Party, saying it "has been engaged in a pattern of Racketeering which involves massive fraud perpetrated on Republican voters and contributors as well as some Independents and Democrats." The lawsuit's defendants include the Republican National Committee (RNC) and the Republican Party of Virginia, as well as Virginia's two members of the RNC and the chairman of the state Republican Party, John Whitbeck. As part of his suit, Heghmann argues that the Republican Party does not hold the same protection that members of Congress have against being sued for failing to fulfill campaign promises. He wants the GOP to either threaten to withhold money from members of Congress if they don't repeal ObamaCare, or return contributions to donors. "If the candidates don't deliver, it's incumbent on the RNC to go to the candidate and say, 'You can't do this,' " Heghmann said, according to the Pilot. Heghmann's suit alleges that both the national and state GOP raised millions of dollars from 2009 to 2016 by promising to repeal ObamaCare, but that Republicans knew they would be unable to repeal the law when former President Obama won reelection in 2012. | ||
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farvacola
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IyMoon
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On August 06 2017 02:24 zlefin wrote: That lawsuit sounds like a complete nonstarter to me. Its the biggest waste of more of this guys money | ||
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Plansix
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The culture war is the golden goose of conservative politics. | ||
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Introvert
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On August 06 2017 03:43 Plansix wrote: https://twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/893880174453772289 The culture war is the golden goose of conservative politics. agreed, consrrvatives should simply surrender to the left on all fronts while they actively advance an agenda. Also he calls it a "wedge issue." no reason to take this guy seriously. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 06 2017 04:08 Introvert wrote: agreed, consrrvatives should simply surrender to the left on all fronts while they actively advance an agenda. Also he calls it a "wedge issue." no reason to take this guy seriously. People who view politics as a zero sum equation are pretty toxic to the process. It would be helpful if they let those who want to govern do so, rather than fanning outrage while soaking in millions from conservative sugger daddies, just to get relelected and do nothing. | ||
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Introvert
United States5093 Posts
On August 06 2017 04:17 Plansix wrote: People who view politics as a zero sum equation are pretty toxic to the process. It would be helpful if they let those who want to govern do so, rather than fanning outrage while soaking in millions from conservative sugger daddies, just to get relelected and do nothing. The only zero sum is from the left who insist on quasi (or explicit) open borders, no wall, less enforcement, and blanket amnesty. you love to use the word "govern." what do you think this entails? it isn't static. people in Congress actively support massive increases in immigration for instance. John McCain just made some comment about moving on to immigrastion. That piece was truly dumb. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On August 06 2017 04:28 Introvert wrote: The only zero sum is from the left who insist on quasi (or explicit) open borders, no wall, less enforcement, and blanket amnesty. you love to use the word "govern." what do you think this entails? it isn't static. people in Congress actively support massive increases in immigration for instance. John McCain just made some comment about moving on to immigrastion. That piece was truly dumb. I believe govern can be used as broadly as "people who actually pass bills". | ||
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zlefin
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and it's pretty clear that the republicans aren't interested in actually governing in anything resembling a reasonable fashion, or at all really. | ||
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