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KwarK
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zlefin
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haha, an epically laughable article. so many glaring flaws. quite lol-worthy | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On August 05 2017 08:13 zlefin wrote: haha, an epically laughable article. so many glaring flaws. quite lol-worthy It's the poltical version of "You could keep your quarter, but you could trade it for me for my 2 dimes. Then you'd have one more coin than you did before!" | ||
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Gorsameth
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When you have run out of every other possible defense, you go with the 'do you really care?' The stock market would be up if a monkey was in charge Unemployment would be down if a donkey was in charge The streets would be mostly safe if an Elephant was in charge (and love the 'mostly' qualifier) The nation would be secure if a flee was in charge. And the world is mostly at peace in spite of Trump being in charge. (remember how many wars he has already threatened to start) The only thing different if Trump wasn't in charge? The US being the world's biggest joke of a nation. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On August 05 2017 07:21 Danglars wrote: She keeps on doubling down. Everybody else dumped the IT guy after his rights to work in congressional servers were revoked. This was several months ago, but DWS kept him on staff. Unforced errors, guys. To think she once stood as the DNC chair. GOP no better with Priebus. Such dysfunction. I shudder to imagine what the current situation would be like with DWS as head of the DNC. She was almost maliciously incompetent at her job. Instead of the head scratching, bad slogans like "have you seen the other guys?" it'd probably be actively detrimental stuff like "Are you ready for Her yet?" | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On August 05 2017 08:22 Gorsameth wrote: When you have run out of every other possible defense, you go with the 'do you really care?' The stock market would be up if a monkey was in charge Unemployment would be down if a donkey was in charge The streets would be mostly safe if an Elephant was in charge (and love the 'mostly' qualifier) The nation would be secure if a flee was in charge. And the world is mostly at peace in spite of Trump being in charge. (remember how many wars he has already threatened to start) The only thing different if Trump wasn't in charge? The US being the world's biggest joke of a nation. Do you mean "not being the world's biggest joke of a nation?" Or is your version correct? | ||
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KwarK
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Karis Vas Ryaar
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Wulfey_LA
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That’s what Trump needs. As Mueller and his fellow G-men close in on their quarry, the willful blindness of partisans won’t be enough to keep Republicans from turning against Trump in numbers large enough to put his job at risk. But if there is a sense that removing or even further isolating the president could jeopardize a growing economy, folks will tend to get a lot more lenient in their thinking. That’s why we revisit this thought experiment from time to time. If we imagine that all that has been said and accused is true, would enough Republicans care enough to want Trump out? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/04/would-even-care-if-was-guilty.html | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22050 Posts
On August 05 2017 08:55 Wulfey_LA wrote: I think you guys are misreading the Would you even care if he was guilty? piece. Most of the piece is an investigation of the Trumpian base and FOX cultists. It correctly identifies that Trumpkins will simply ignore or FAKE NEWS away the Grand Jury news and point to other things as a justification. Read as a whole, the piece is a damning indictment of the willingness of FOX cultists to keep themselves willfully blind. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/04/would-even-care-if-was-guilty.html There is no way that the random flailing of Trump being removed is better for the economy then a Pence presidency (or anyone else really). And we all know the Trumpkins are beyond saving, this is for the rest of the country. Note aswell, since we're talking about partisanship, its in the Democrats favor to keep Trump in power. Both because of the easy of attacking Trump but also because a Trump presidency is going to get a whole lot less done in terms of GOP policies then the alternative of Pence (or other GOP politician). Its not about the economy or policy, its about defending the democracy from foreign interference. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
Allies of White House chief strategist Steve Bannon intensified their battle against national security adviser H.R. McMaster this week as McMaster began asserting more control over the National Security Council and fired officials appointed by his immediate predecessor, Michael Flynn. The dismissals of Ezra Cohen-Watnick, Rich Higgins, and Derek Harvey have exacerbated friction between McMaster and the White House's more nationalist wing, which is led by Bannon and has President Donald Trump's ear. "There is a split in the White House between the Bannon camp of ideologues and the McMaster-Mattis-Tillerson camp of more centrist intellectuals," Pete Mansoor, a retired Army colonel who worked closely with McMaster, told Politico. "And this conflict is playing out in real time as the Trump administration tries to flesh out its foreign policy and national security policy." www.yahoo.com McMaster also removed Bannon from the NSC at one point. | ||
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LegalLord
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Doodsmack
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Danglars
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On August 05 2017 08:22 Nevuk wrote: I shudder to imagine what the current situation would be like with DWS as head of the DNC. She was almost maliciously incompetent at her job. Instead of the head scratching, bad slogans like "have you seen the other guys?" it'd probably be actively detrimental stuff like "Are you ready for Her yet?" Primaries? Oh, you mean asking the little people for their thoughts while we pick their nominee for president. Honestly. She had a big hand in losing an almost unloseable election. And just like the big leaks exposed Trump's unethical dealings, the DNC/Podesta leaks showed how her organization tilted the scales. And then laughably claimed the result would've been the same anyways so stop your yabbering. And seriously Dems, best of luck taking back your party. The party bosses/influence peddlers overplayed their hand this time around. Maybe that's enough to go big in 2020. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
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LegalLord
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On August 05 2017 12:00 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/893634533681221632 https://twitter.com/MaxBoot/status/893666380175753216 They do it with drugs, why not with this? Flynn isn't necessarily a big fish here. So why not give him some kind of deal and get the testimony he's willing to give, under oath? | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On August 05 2017 12:14 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: They do it with drugs, why not with this? Flynn isn't necessarily a big fish here. So why not give him some kind of deal and get the testimony he's willing to give, under oath? I am sure he offered up something when he asked for it, it probably just was not anything good | ||
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Introvert
United States4884 Posts
On August 05 2017 12:10 LegalLord wrote: So, I'm a wee bit curious: are the rumors surrounding the Mueller probe supposed to be public, or are these leaks just for fun? Leaks so that we don't go too long without new drama. Imagine if people *gasp* forgot about the Russia investigation while the wonderful special counsel's office just silently and diligently did its work. I can't imagine these are friendly leaks. | ||
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