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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
July 28 2017 01:36 GMT
#164461
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 28 2017 01:39 GMT
#164462
On July 28 2017 10:36 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/890711664072556544

Bannon's got the evil genius thing going.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 28 2017 01:40 GMT
#164463
Utilities? Not media networks?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 28 2017 01:40 GMT
#164464
I'm all for it. Someone needs to stick it to those asshats that have an obsession with not wanting to be regulated.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 28 2017 01:41 GMT
#164465
Isn't he like one step away from accidentally saying that net neutrality is good there?
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
July 28 2017 01:41 GMT
#164466
So is Bannon for Net Neutrality or....?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-28 01:43:13
July 28 2017 01:43 GMT
#164467
They have both been left alone for far to long. Apple too, for shear reach and customer base. Their market share is insane.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
July 28 2017 01:44 GMT
#164468
On July 28 2017 10:41 Gahlo wrote:
Isn't he like one step away from accidentally saying that net neutrality is good there?

The kind of government power that can do both is a dangerous thing.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-28 01:49:33
July 28 2017 01:47 GMT
#164469




I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
July 28 2017 01:50 GMT
#164470
Try naming 1 Bannon policy that ever made it to Paul Ryan that had a populist flair. None did. Because Bannon's stupid trial balloons have always been fake and remain fake. Every last phony populist trial balloon Bannon puts out there are DOA under Paul Ryan and under broader Conservative thinking. His phony populist plays are a way to allow Greens to continue lying to themselves about the nature of Republicans. The 'both sides' dupes fall for this crap and use it as an excuse to say that DJT isn't that bad. This play works because Greens and both-siders employ selective skepticism whereby they instantly trust populist trial balloons by known conmen like Bannon/DJT but somehow discount the very existence of the Democratic party platform / HRC/Obama Platforms and the websites listing their known features.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
July 28 2017 02:27 GMT
#164471
On July 28 2017 10:12 LegalLord wrote:
My favorite part of this whole Scaramouchey matter? How quickly Spicey went from "Baghdad Bob" to "actually kind of ok."


If you've ever asked yourself how people wake up in North Korea and think that this is all perfectly normal, this is basically the kind of transition you go through. One day you have a normal administration and the next day you have raving cokeheads running through the halls accusing their allies of sucking their own dicks

Jesus America what have you done
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 28 2017 02:30 GMT
#164472
On July 28 2017 11:27 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2017 10:12 LegalLord wrote:
My favorite part of this whole Scaramouchey matter? How quickly Spicey went from "Baghdad Bob" to "actually kind of ok."


If you've ever asked yourself how people wake up in North Korea and think that this is all perfectly normal, this is basically the kind of transition you go through. One day you have a normal administration and the next day you have raving cokeheads running through the halls accusing their allies of sucking their own dicks

Jesus America what have you done

You might not know from the outside but we've always been like this. Trump is just a more honest manifestation of that side of us.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
July 28 2017 02:32 GMT
#164473
On July 28 2017 11:30 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2017 11:27 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 28 2017 10:12 LegalLord wrote:
My favorite part of this whole Scaramouchey matter? How quickly Spicey went from "Baghdad Bob" to "actually kind of ok."


If you've ever asked yourself how people wake up in North Korea and think that this is all perfectly normal, this is basically the kind of transition you go through. One day you have a normal administration and the next day you have raving cokeheads running through the halls accusing their allies of sucking their own dicks

Jesus America what have you done

You might not know from the outside but we've always been like this. Trump is just a more honest manifestation of that side of us.

Speak for yourself. I'm no cokehead.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-28 02:45:29
July 28 2017 02:41 GMT
#164474




Just slide through in the middle of the night.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
July 28 2017 02:46 GMT
#164475
Trumpcare is now purely an insurance market death spiral bill. Removing the mandate means that people who are stupid and think they will never get sick (they might be right) will opt out. This will drive up costs for the smart who judge that they might get sick. But the uninsured ingrates will still stink up our ERs and the poor saps paying premiums will end up stuck with the bill. Idiocy. Do the Republicans know that these changes will hit fast enough to be on time for the 2018 elections?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 28 2017 02:49 GMT
#164476
They don't care. They are convinced that passing anything, no matter how terrible, is better than nothing. They plan to blame the democrats and Obama, because it's all they know how to do.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-28 02:51:55
July 28 2017 02:51 GMT
#164477
On July 28 2017 10:50 Wulfey_LA wrote:
Try naming 1 Bannon policy that ever made it to Paul Ryan that had a populist flair. None did. Because Bannon's stupid trial balloons have always been fake and remain fake. Every last phony populist trial balloon Bannon puts out there are DOA under Paul Ryan and under broader Conservative thinking. His phony populist plays are a way to allow Greens to continue lying to themselves about the nature of Republicans. The 'both sides' dupes fall for this crap and use it as an excuse to say that DJT isn't that bad. This play works because Greens and both-siders employ selective skepticism whereby they instantly trust populist trial balloons by known conmen like Bannon/DJT but somehow discount the very existence of the Democratic party platform / HRC/Obama Platforms and the websites listing their known features.

You are totally missing the point on what is going at the White House and the GOP. There is nothing fake about Bannon's populism. The policies that he floats aren't trial balloons. They are things that he wants to see enacted. He is not a conservative republican. Paul Ryan and the rest of establishment, conservative GOP officials are Bannon's chief obstacles. Did you miss Bannon's quote where he called Paul Ryan something along the lines of a "dickless motherfucker grown in a petri dish at the Heritage Foundation?" Every word in that insult carries quite a bit of meaning that belies exactly what the nature of the conflict on the Right is.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
July 28 2017 02:53 GMT
#164478
On July 28 2017 11:49 Plansix wrote:
They don't care. They are convinced that passing anything, no matter how terrible, is better than nothing. They plan to blame the democrats and Obama, because it's all they know how to do.

"Obama and the democrats gave us this mess and we had to make an attempt to fix it. Now that we got the worst of it out of the way, we can focus on improving it and making it better for not only the wealthy and healthy Americans, but all Americans." - GOP, probably
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
July 28 2017 02:54 GMT
#164479
On July 28 2017 11:49 Plansix wrote:
They don't care. They are convinced that passing anything, no matter how terrible, is better than nothing. They plan to blame the democrats and Obama, because it's all they know how to do.

But those death panels.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-28 02:57:42
July 28 2017 02:55 GMT
#164480
Many republicans are not what you call "conservative". Republicans, sure. Zealots maybe. Actually conservative? That's rather rare.

I do agree though that Bannon/Jones and the likes are a little bit on the crazy side even for the tea party.

"Obama and the democrats gave us this mess and we had to make an attempt to fix it. Now that we got the worst of it out of the way, we can focus on improving it and making it better for not only the wealthy and healthy Americans, but all Americans." - GOP, probably


Quite possible, and you know the worst part? GOP voters will swallow that like a Wellington made by ramsay himself. You saw it being called here already by mohzuku or whatever the name was, complaining that the democrats don't come up with anything to replace Obamacare with.
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