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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
July 25 2017 02:29 GMT
#163441
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 02:37:54
July 25 2017 02:34 GMT
#163442
That's not what the article states though..

Not that anything there is new (this story "broke" almost a year ago). Trump does barely donate, wants people to think he's the biggest giver ever, uses his own foundation as slush fund.

It's starting to grind my gears to have this shit constantly repeated as if it were "news". Especially if it comes with a statement like "apparently used monies to pay his sons whatever", when the linked article doesn't say anything like that.

edit: it's actually incredibly counterproductive to ride the same shit year after year, including made up conclusion.
On track to MA1950A.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 02:41:06
July 25 2017 02:39 GMT
#163443
On July 25 2017 11:34 m4ini wrote:
That's not what the article states though..

Not that anything there is new (this story "broke" almost a year ago). Trump does barely donate, wants people to think he's the biggest giver ever, uses his own foundation as slush fund.

It's starting to grind my gears to have this shit constantly repeated as if it were "news". Especially if it comes with a statement like "apparently used monies to pay his sons whatever", when the linked article doesn't say anything like that.

edit: it's actually incredibly counterproductive to ride the same shit year after year, including made up conclusion.


I didn't read the article because Wapo is a pain for me. definitely agree with you about saying stuff without proof. If it had been confirmed I think it's okay to bring up just as an aside
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
July 25 2017 02:42 GMT
#163444
On July 25 2017 11:39 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 11:34 m4ini wrote:
That's not what the article states though..

Not that anything there is new (this story "broke" almost a year ago). Trump does barely donate, wants people to think he's the biggest giver ever, uses his own foundation as slush fund.

It's starting to grind my gears to have this shit constantly repeated as if it were "news". Especially if it comes with a statement like "apparently used monies to pay his sons whatever", when the linked article doesn't say anything like that.

edit: it's actually incredibly counterproductive to ride the same shit year after year, including made up conclusion.


I didn't read the article because Wapo is a pain for me. definitely agree with you about saying stuff without proof. If it had been confirmed I think it's okay to bring up just as an aside


Nah, wasn't attacking you, you just linked the tweet.
On track to MA1950A.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 03:00:49
July 25 2017 02:42 GMT
#163445
On July 25 2017 07:32 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I don't get the Bernie love still going on, honestly. I find a lot of parts of his campaign quite suspicious, what with the ongoing Russian revelations. Look up Tad Devine's work in Ukraine, and who he worked with there, if you're interested.

He's the only one not circling the wagons around Trump or shooting at the wagons in Washington, it feels like. It's easy to find appeal in somebody that's not going to be talking about Russia 24/7.

On July 25 2017 11:04 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
do they still ban atheists?

the larger issue is he basically turned the Jubilee into a campaign rally

I considered myself and atheist when I was in it. Nobody asked me though.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
July 25 2017 02:48 GMT
#163446
Actually, Bernie still has some very valid points in his policies. People had trouble believing it because of funding issues, to then go ahead and vote the person that had even less clue about funding all his promises.

Wouldn't want to see him as president though, he's too old now. Our family just lost a friend of 30 years this week, he was 72 iirc - and went fishing and hiking with us just 6 months ago. Stuff can go sideways incredibly fast (and i mean, whatthefuckhewascompletetlyfinelastweek fast) at that age.
On track to MA1950A.
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 02:49:37
July 25 2017 02:48 GMT
#163447
Answering the "where's the extra coal going?" question, the answer appears to be a bunch of small customers like Egypt and Guatemala becoming medium customers and a large increase for western Europe (Belgium, France, Germany and the Netherlands).
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 25 2017 02:53 GMT
#163448
So trump apparently just leaked classified info...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 02:57:30
July 25 2017 02:56 GMT
#163449
On July 25 2017 11:48 Buckyman wrote:
Answering the "where's the extra coal going?" question, the answer appears to be a bunch of small customers like Egypt and Guatemala becoming medium customers and a large increase for western Europe (Belgium, France, Germany and the Netherlands).


Germanies coal import is already declining and will continue to do so. Not to mention that russian (or colombian) coal is cheaper and doesn't have to be shipped across the pond (in regard to russia).

On track to MA1950A.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 25 2017 02:56 GMT
#163450
So what are the chances that the WaPo has something big and the Administration just found out.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
July 25 2017 02:58 GMT
#163451
On July 25 2017 11:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So what are the chances that the WaPo has something big and the Administration just found out.

Lower than the chance of Trump ranting as usual about an organization he obviously doesn't like.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
July 25 2017 02:59 GMT
#163452
On July 25 2017 11:53 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So trump apparently just leaked classified info...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/889672374458646528

I'm confused, didn't we already know that Trump is ending aid to certain anti-Assad rebels in Syria?
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
July 25 2017 02:59 GMT
#163453
That's what i was wondering, maybe the fact that he's still paying was classified, or something?

Confused too.
On track to MA1950A.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
July 25 2017 03:05 GMT
#163454
My guess is that they framed it as doing so as a favor to VLADIMIR PUTIN whereas Trump wants it to be seen as ending a shitty terrorist funding program.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 03:17:13
July 25 2017 03:16 GMT
#163455
On July 25 2017 12:05 LegalLord wrote:
My guess is that they framed it as doing so as a favor to VLADIMIR PUTIN whereas Trump wants it to be seen as ending a shitty terrorist funding program.


Maybe they got a record of what Trump and Putin talked about? Can't wait for that next news drop.

EDIT: DJT kinda spoiled the plot. Looks like WaPo called to ask for clarification about whether he talked to Putin about the USA-CIA rebel pipeline. Must have tipped and then tripped him off.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 03:36:57
July 25 2017 03:32 GMT
#163456
On July 25 2017 11:34 m4ini wrote:
That's not what the article states though..

Not that anything there is new (this story "broke" almost a year ago). Trump does barely donate, wants people to think he's the biggest giver ever, uses his own foundation as slush fund.

It's starting to grind my gears to have this shit constantly repeated as if it were "news". Especially if it comes with a statement like "apparently used monies to pay his sons whatever", when the linked article doesn't say anything like that.

edit: it's actually incredibly counterproductive to ride the same shit year after year, including made up conclusion.

Trump doesn't donate as much as he pretends he donates? I don't know if we really need to know how he funds 7$ fees. Like, we need more confirmation that he's petty, or that reporters covering him are chomping at the bit for slights to stick it to him? It kinda feeds an outrage culture that will get people a little exhausted in time.

Feelings on matter:
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
July 25 2017 03:34 GMT
#163457
On July 25 2017 12:05 LegalLord wrote:
My guess is that they framed it as doing so as a favor to VLADIMIR PUTIN whereas Trump wants it to be seen as ending a shitty terrorist funding program.

More bread crumbs in the tale of collusion.

And such a transparent cover-up too. Putin should've trained him better.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 25 2017 04:09 GMT
#163458
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
rageprotosscheesy
Profile Joined June 2017
36 Posts
July 25 2017 04:30 GMT
#163459
On July 25 2017 12:32 Danglars wrote:
Feelings on matter:
https://twitter.com/molratty/status/889679663706107904


I think this says more about the American people thinking its alright to have a scam artist as president than anything else.

Who cares if the "Left" are moaning about bullshit, you should have higher standards for your elected individuals.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 25 2017 04:54 GMT
#163460
On July 25 2017 13:30 rageprotosscheesy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 12:32 Danglars wrote:
Feelings on matter:
https://twitter.com/molratty/status/889679663706107904


I think this says more about the American people thinking its alright to have a scam artist as president than anything else.

Who cares if the "Left" are moaning about bullshit, you should have higher standards for your elected individuals.

I could rant about this for awhile, as I'm sure that many people who voted for him hold their children to higher standards than what they expect out of the president. Somewhere along the way a lot of people just lost all respect they had for the office and decided "fuck it", and stuck a figurative middle finger in the oval office. Frustrates me to no end to see such callous disregard for his behavior and the lasting damage it'll cause, when I know supporters wouldn't tolerate that shit in other facets of their life.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
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