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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8067 Posts
June 20 2017 14:24 GMT
#157981
On June 20 2017 23:18 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 23:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:56 Plansix wrote:
Spicer was never really the problem, but he is the fall guy. I feel bad for whoever takes that role.

Well nobody is forced to do it after all. At least Spicer could hope it would go all right. Would have to have lived under a rock to think that this is a good idea to take the job now.

I actually wonder how they will find someone at all. I can't imagine anyone of the required calibre who would want to commit such a political and professional seppuku.


I'd take the job. If only to see what this circus looks like from the inside. But I dont think I have the profile they are looking for.


To be confronted daily by world class journalists about the last rage tweet shit storm and the inconsistencies of Trump without ever having an opportunity to just admit he is full of it looks like a job tailored made by Satan to punish dishonest politicians in the afterlife.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
June 20 2017 14:29 GMT
#157982
That's actually a pretty bad sign for Trump if Ingraham, Guifoyle, Sanders etc already turned it down.
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-20 14:35:35
June 20 2017 14:32 GMT
#157983
On June 20 2017 23:24 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 23:18 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On June 20 2017 23:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:56 Plansix wrote:
Spicer was never really the problem, but he is the fall guy. I feel bad for whoever takes that role.

Well nobody is forced to do it after all. At least Spicer could hope it would go all right. Would have to have lived under a rock to think that this is a good idea to take the job now.

I actually wonder how they will find someone at all. I can't imagine anyone of the required calibre who would want to commit such a political and professional seppuku.


I'd take the job. If only to see what this circus looks like from the inside. But I dont think I have the profile they are looking for.


To be confronted daily by world class journalists about the last rage tweet shit storm and the inconsistencies of Trump without ever having an opportunity to just admit he is full of it looks like a job tailored made by Satan to punish dishonest politicians in the afterlife.



You just roll over and take the beating cause you know its not personal. Do public servants like Spicey get good severance deals when they are fired?

I really admire the guy. After his first day in office you could see how shitty it was going to be.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 20 2017 14:40 GMT
#157984
On June 20 2017 23:22 KwarK wrote:
Middle aged, male, white, able to tell jokes with perfect deadpan delivery.

Joe Biden?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 20 2017 14:41 GMT
#157985
I thought Spicey just ended up in a better position at the WH...
Life?
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
June 20 2017 14:43 GMT
#157986
On June 20 2017 23:40 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 23:22 KwarK wrote:
Middle aged, male, white, able to tell jokes with perfect deadpan delivery.

Joe Biden?

I don't think Joe qualifies as middle aged.
But that does make me wonder, Bob Newhart as press secretary, there could be a funny skit there. Now there was a master of deadpan.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-20 15:14:40
June 20 2017 15:14 GMT
#157987
Not only is Spicer out, but Bannon is keeping the WH classy as always.

Logo
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 20 2017 15:14 GMT
#157988
On June 20 2017 23:43 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 23:40 LegalLord wrote:
On June 20 2017 23:22 KwarK wrote:
Middle aged, male, white, able to tell jokes with perfect deadpan delivery.

Joe Biden?

I don't think Joe qualifies as middle aged.
But that does make me wonder, Bob Newhart as press secretary, there could be a funny skit there. Now there was a master of deadpan.


Just get Norm Macdonald up there and call it a day.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-20 15:28:32
June 20 2017 15:27 GMT
#157989
On June 21 2017 00:14 Logo wrote:
Not only is Spicer out, but Bannon is keeping the WH classy as always.

https://twitter.com/ProPublica/status/877133658712408064

Its nice when they can get a choice quote from Bannon.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 20 2017 15:30 GMT
#157990
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-20 15:35:15
June 20 2017 15:33 GMT
#157991
On June 21 2017 00:27 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 00:14 Logo wrote:
Not only is Spicer out, but Bannon is keeping the WH classy as always.

https://twitter.com/ProPublica/status/877133658712408064

Its nice when they can get a choice quote from Bannon.

that is gold. this administration has the best spox. second to none.

would like to add my sympathy to the pile for Spicer, tried his best and i do not envy the position he is in daily.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22239 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-20 15:35:58
June 20 2017 15:34 GMT
#157992
On June 20 2017 23:24 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 23:18 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On June 20 2017 23:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:56 Plansix wrote:
Spicer was never really the problem, but he is the fall guy. I feel bad for whoever takes that role.

Well nobody is forced to do it after all. At least Spicer could hope it would go all right. Would have to have lived under a rock to think that this is a good idea to take the job now.

I actually wonder how they will find someone at all. I can't imagine anyone of the required calibre who would want to commit such a political and professional seppuku.


I'd take the job. If only to see what this circus looks like from the inside. But I dont think I have the profile they are looking for.


To be confronted daily by world class journalists about the last rage tweet shit storm and the inconsistencies of Trump without ever having an opportunity to just admit he is full of it looks like a job tailored made by Satan to punish dishonest politicians in the afterlife.

For someone who has no political or public aspirations? Sure I will tell bullshit to journalists for 3 year where both myself and the journalist know that its all crap.
Assuming the pay is good.

And sympathy for Spicer? He know what he was getting into, I don't feel sorry for him.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8067 Posts
June 20 2017 15:49 GMT
#157993
On June 21 2017 00:34 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 23:24 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 20 2017 23:18 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On June 20 2017 23:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:56 Plansix wrote:
Spicer was never really the problem, but he is the fall guy. I feel bad for whoever takes that role.

Well nobody is forced to do it after all. At least Spicer could hope it would go all right. Would have to have lived under a rock to think that this is a good idea to take the job now.

I actually wonder how they will find someone at all. I can't imagine anyone of the required calibre who would want to commit such a political and professional seppuku.


I'd take the job. If only to see what this circus looks like from the inside. But I dont think I have the profile they are looking for.


To be confronted daily by world class journalists about the last rage tweet shit storm and the inconsistencies of Trump without ever having an opportunity to just admit he is full of it looks like a job tailored made by Satan to punish dishonest politicians in the afterlife.

For someone who has no political or public aspirations? Sure I will tell bullshit to journalists for 3 year where both myself and the journalist know that its all crap.
Assuming the pay is good.

And sympathy for Spicer? He know what he was getting into, I don't feel sorry for him.


I'm pretty sure though that anyone who is qualified enough to hold such an important position and doesn't have public / political ambition can find a better paid and more satisfying job in a heartbit.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22239 Posts
June 20 2017 15:54 GMT
#157994
On June 21 2017 00:49 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 00:34 Gorsameth wrote:
On June 20 2017 23:24 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 20 2017 23:18 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On June 20 2017 23:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:56 Plansix wrote:
Spicer was never really the problem, but he is the fall guy. I feel bad for whoever takes that role.

Well nobody is forced to do it after all. At least Spicer could hope it would go all right. Would have to have lived under a rock to think that this is a good idea to take the job now.

I actually wonder how they will find someone at all. I can't imagine anyone of the required calibre who would want to commit such a political and professional seppuku.


I'd take the job. If only to see what this circus looks like from the inside. But I dont think I have the profile they are looking for.


To be confronted daily by world class journalists about the last rage tweet shit storm and the inconsistencies of Trump without ever having an opportunity to just admit he is full of it looks like a job tailored made by Satan to punish dishonest politicians in the afterlife.

For someone who has no political or public aspirations? Sure I will tell bullshit to journalists for 3 year where both myself and the journalist know that its all crap.
Assuming the pay is good.

And sympathy for Spicer? He know what he was getting into, I don't feel sorry for him.


I'm pretty sure though that anyone who is qualified enough to hold such an important position and doesn't have public / political ambition can find a better paid and more satisfying job in a heartbit.

Which is why their unlikely to find such a qualified person ^^

speaking of job hunting. How is that FBI position going?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 20 2017 16:28 GMT
#157995
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
June 20 2017 16:47 GMT
#157996
Saw this on ESPN
Source

I'll withhold my personal opinion on this one.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
June 20 2017 16:57 GMT
#157997
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
June 20 2017 16:57 GMT
#157998
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-20 17:02:06
June 20 2017 17:00 GMT
#157999
On June 21 2017 00:34 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 23:24 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 20 2017 23:18 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On June 20 2017 23:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:56 Plansix wrote:
Spicer was never really the problem, but he is the fall guy. I feel bad for whoever takes that role.

Well nobody is forced to do it after all. At least Spicer could hope it would go all right. Would have to have lived under a rock to think that this is a good idea to take the job now.

I actually wonder how they will find someone at all. I can't imagine anyone of the required calibre who would want to commit such a political and professional seppuku.


I'd take the job. If only to see what this circus looks like from the inside. But I dont think I have the profile they are looking for.


To be confronted daily by world class journalists about the last rage tweet shit storm and the inconsistencies of Trump without ever having an opportunity to just admit he is full of it looks like a job tailored made by Satan to punish dishonest politicians in the afterlife.

For someone who has no political or public aspirations? Sure I will tell bullshit to journalists for 3 year where both myself and the journalist know that its all crap.
Assuming the pay is good.

And sympathy for Spicer? He know what he was getting into, I don't feel sorry for him.



I don't see a reason to feel bad for spicer. It doesn't sound like he was judged poorly. It's not like he was set up for a poor performance and got repeatedly blamed. He clearly did his best. Maybe republicans disagree?


On June 21 2017 01:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Saw this on ESPN
Source

I'll withhold my personal opinion on this one.


It's kind of a weird fight to have because the idea of a team called the red skins is just kind of hilarious at this point. It is by no means the sort of thing that will last forever. It is hard to say the red skins are even making the right choice by defending it so adamantly. "The people who have red skin" is just such a stupid fucking name to begin with. Not from an offensive point of view, but its just so dumb. Regardless of if the name is PC enough for the modern market, time does not favor them. It is hard to imagine that name still being used 20 years from now. Basically impossible. So why not find some way to pivot now before there is a full on, potent, directed, successful campaign against the team. It feels like sometimes this stuff can really pick up steam and that it does so really quickly. I am curious how much the red skins have to LOSE by changing the name. How many fans would they really lose by changing their team name?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 20 2017 17:01 GMT
#158000
On June 21 2017 01:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Saw this on ESPN
Source

I'll withhold my personal opinion on this one.

We talked about it yesterday and the ruling is pretty reasonable. Trademarks do not have the same impact as something like racially restrictive convents for land sales. And the ruling does not provide any specific protection for the court of public opinion.
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