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biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 18:15:41
June 11 2017 18:15 GMT
#156681
Friend of mine recieved his citizenship few days ago after coming to US 20 years ago, no message from president or vp. I had Bush give an inspiring talk about 10 years ago.
Question.?
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
June 11 2017 18:36 GMT
#156682
On June 12 2017 03:15 biology]major wrote:
Friend of mine recieved his citizenship few days ago after coming to US 20 years ago, no message from president or vp. I had Bush give an inspiring talk about 10 years ago.

just replay him a good old one; or something akin to it. welcome aboard to him; hopefully the ship won't sink soon
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 11 2017 19:53 GMT
#156683


Hate to say it but Trump is not wrong...
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
June 11 2017 19:54 GMT
#156684
But that sounds like they are copying a winning strategy then. Is this bad or good?
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
June 11 2017 19:57 GMT
#156685
The word "obstruction" has taken on a new meaning now, actually. If anyone had theories that the Democrats are playing 7d chess somehow, I could see an argument that they've manipulated all this just so the "obstructionist" label would be harder to turn around on them. Of course if they were playing 7d chess that well you'd figure they'd have done a little better in elections than they have, so that theory probably doesn't hold up + Show Spoiler [tin hat] +
unless they intentionally let Trump win to long-term ruin the Republicans forever
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22646 Posts
June 11 2017 19:57 GMT
#156686
On June 12 2017 04:53 LegalLord wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/873884774041079808

Hate to say it but Trump is not wrong...

Remind me, don't the Republicans have a majority in the House, the Senate and the Presidency?

Oh right, reality need not apply to Trump's universe.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 20:21:50
June 11 2017 20:07 GMT
#156687
On June 12 2017 04:53 LegalLord wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/873884774041079808

Hate to say it but Trump is not wrong...

This is so ridiculous that I expected more from you.
How can they actually obstruct a majority in both houses?
I expect more from you...
Alot more.

e:nvm. your goals must've been trolling. wp
passive quaranstream fan
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8195 Posts
June 11 2017 20:44 GMT
#156688
On June 12 2017 04:53 LegalLord wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/873884774041079808

Hate to say it but Trump is not wrong...

From a republican, talking about obstruction is a bit rich though.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 11 2017 20:47 GMT
#156689
On June 12 2017 05:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 04:53 LegalLord wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/873884774041079808

Hate to say it but Trump is not wrong...

From a republican, talking about obstruction is a bit rich though.

Hypocritical, but not wrong.

It's as if Democrats saw the past six years of Republicans being obstructionist, complaining about it the whole way, then when they didn't have the presidency, thought, "hey, let's be just like those Republicans!"
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22646 Posts
June 11 2017 21:03 GMT
#156690
On June 12 2017 05:47 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 05:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 12 2017 04:53 LegalLord wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/873884774041079808

Hate to say it but Trump is not wrong...

From a republican, talking about obstruction is a bit rich though.

Hypocritical, but not wrong.

It's as if Democrats saw the past six years of Republicans being obstructionist, complaining about it the whole way, then when they didn't have the presidency, thought, "hey, let's be just like those Republicans!"

What are the Democrats stopping right now through the (threat of) filibuster? Genuine question because from what I understand Trumps big moves are being stopped by Republicans, not Democrats.

What, other then the Supreme Court nomination, are the Democrats obstructing?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12559 Posts
June 11 2017 21:23 GMT
#156691
On June 12 2017 06:03 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 05:47 LegalLord wrote:
On June 12 2017 05:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 12 2017 04:53 LegalLord wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/873884774041079808

Hate to say it but Trump is not wrong...

From a republican, talking about obstruction is a bit rich though.

Hypocritical, but not wrong.

It's as if Democrats saw the past six years of Republicans being obstructionist, complaining about it the whole way, then when they didn't have the presidency, thought, "hey, let's be just like those Republicans!"

What are the Democrats stopping right now through the (threat of) filibuster? Genuine question because from what I understand Trumps big moves are being stopped by Republicans, not Democrats.

What, other then the Supreme Court nomination, are the Democrats obstructing?


My guess is the part that sounds true in the message is the rallying behind a negative message (Not Trump) rather than a positive one (us). It's not actually true cause a lot of democrats are rallying behind single payer, amongst other things, but they could probably do with a little more of that kind of stuff and a little less Russia in general.
No will to live, no wish to die
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 21:33:53
June 11 2017 21:31 GMT
#156692
On June 12 2017 06:23 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 06:03 Gorsameth wrote:
On June 12 2017 05:47 LegalLord wrote:
On June 12 2017 05:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 12 2017 04:53 LegalLord wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/873884774041079808

Hate to say it but Trump is not wrong...

From a republican, talking about obstruction is a bit rich though.

Hypocritical, but not wrong.

It's as if Democrats saw the past six years of Republicans being obstructionist, complaining about it the whole way, then when they didn't have the presidency, thought, "hey, let's be just like those Republicans!"

What are the Democrats stopping right now through the (threat of) filibuster? Genuine question because from what I understand Trumps big moves are being stopped by Republicans, not Democrats.

What, other then the Supreme Court nomination, are the Democrats obstructing?


My guess is the part that sounds true in the message is the rallying behind a negative message (Not Trump) rather than a positive one (us). It's not actually true cause a lot of democrats are rallying behind single payer, amongst other things, but they could probably do with a little more of that kind of stuff and a little less Russia in general.

sadly, the other stuff doesn't get attention, so even when it's being done, nobody hears about, so they don't think i'ts being done and/or are unaware of it being done. or they're a bit aware of it; but misestimate the degree to which each is done because one gets far more coverage than the other. reminds me of the issues with how people perceive the crime rate to be (i.e. people perceive how bad crime is mostly based on the degree and sensationalism of the crime reporting, rather than on whether crime is in fact going up or down or what the actual rates are).
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 22:25:30
June 11 2017 22:16 GMT
#156693
On June 12 2017 05:47 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 05:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 12 2017 04:53 LegalLord wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/873884774041079808

Hate to say it but Trump is not wrong...

From a republican, talking about obstruction is a bit rich though.

Hypocritical, but not wrong.

It's as if Democrats saw the past six years of Republicans being obstructionist, complaining about it the whole way, then when they didn't have the presidency, thought, "hey, let's be just like those Republicans!"

We all know you're are smarter than this. You know how congress works and how the republicans are preventing the democrats from even adding amendments to bills. Don't treat us like we are dumb enough to accept this stupid argument.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 11 2017 22:40 GMT
#156694
Just more Trump saying things that are factually not true because he dislikes certain people. Nothing to see here.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
June 11 2017 22:51 GMT
#156695
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
June 11 2017 23:03 GMT
#156696
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12559 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 23:05:43
June 11 2017 23:05 GMT
#156697
wait, what the fuck? That was the guy from the muslim neonazi convert story right?
No will to live, no wish to die
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 11 2017 23:14 GMT
#156698
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
June 11 2017 23:20 GMT
#156699
On June 12 2017 08:03 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/873991671284981760


For fuck's sake, this is a joke. Fucking Tampa. This dude is covered head to fucking toe in red flags.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 23:23:27
June 11 2017 23:22 GMT
#156700
(Frantically googles if bond hearings can be appealed). It looks like the bond hearing happened before federal prosecution could get a motion to deny bond in. I have no idea who the defense got a federal judge to rule on a bond hearing on a Sunday. Maybe that is a weird Florida thing. My time in work in probation taught me avoid getting arrested on Friday at all costs, since you might(likely wont) get arraignment hearing till Monday.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
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