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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13925 Posts
June 11 2017 02:56 GMT
#156661
but you think about how many of the little things were grown and raised just for the single coat each. marks a lot like veal in my mind at the least.

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A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
June 11 2017 03:01 GMT
#156662


"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
June 11 2017 03:09 GMT
#156663
Also if your interested in Lawyery stuff Laurence Tribe and Alan Deershowitz are in the middle of a twitter argument about what constitutes obstruction
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
June 11 2017 03:20 GMT
#156664
So what to people think about how numerous the investigations into Trump's alleged Russia ties are? Two each for the Senate and House, plus the DoJ investigation. Spider senses tell me that they aren't all going to be useful and that a least a few of them are probably a useless waste of space.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 03:33:38
June 11 2017 03:33 GMT
#156665
On June 11 2017 12:20 LegalLord wrote:
So what to people think about how numerous the investigations into Trump's alleged Russia ties are? Two each for the Senate and House, plus the DoJ investigation. Spider senses tell me that they aren't all going to be useful and that a least a few of them are probably a useless waste of space.

On the flip side, it tells me it's highly unlikely that it's about nothing. Some of them could fall flat, but it seems like your chance of throwing a dart and hitting somebody who's in it is pretty good. They're throwing at least 5 darts.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 03:52:51
June 11 2017 03:41 GMT
#156666
Somebody probably did something. Or else the entire campaign staff was full of the Marx Brothers. And in responding to the investigation someone will probably do something. other than that no idea.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 11 2017 03:46 GMT
#156667
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 11 2017 04:03 GMT
#156668
That bodes well for everybody involved.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
June 11 2017 04:13 GMT
#156669
Three U.S. soldiers were killed and another wounded during an attack in eastern Afghanistan, according to three U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity.

A local Afghan official said earlier two U.S. soldiers were killed and two others wounded during the shooting in Achin district, where U.S. special forces have been fighting alongside Afghan troops against Islamic State and Taliban militants.

www.reuters.com
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 09:39:22
June 11 2017 09:04 GMT
#156670
On June 11 2017 12:01 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
https://twitter.com/RWPUSA/status/873722500202598400

https://twitter.com/RWPUSA/status/873726453178925061

How does leaking the information that led to Flynn getting fired factor into this?

If I understood correctly, those leaks were a direct response to panic that certain people in the WH were pushing to lift sanctions on Russia, yet it was classified information pertaining to national security.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 13:26:36
June 11 2017 12:47 GMT
#156671
On June 11 2017 12:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/873717070613155840

hehe isn't he supposed to be the smarter one of the sons

He also calls Comey a politician for some reason.
Neosteel Enthusiast
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 13:16:14
June 11 2017 13:02 GMT
#156672
On June 11 2017 12:20 LegalLord wrote:
So what to people think about how numerous the investigations into Trump's alleged Russia ties are? Two each for the Senate and House, plus the DoJ investigation. Spider senses tell me that they aren't all going to be useful and that a least a few of them are probably a useless waste of space.

still seems less numerous than the investigations they did into hillary; and these are far more justified.
some of them probably are redundant though.
of course, since each has different jurisdictions and focuses, it makes some sense that there's multiple investigations, each one looking at different facets of the overall situation.

do the house and senate at least hold joint hearings when they both have the same committees investigating something (i.e. if say the intelligence committee in each part), so as to not have to bring witnesses in twice?
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 14:03:03
June 11 2017 13:59 GMT
#156673


So you intimidate an employee to do your wish in a 1v1 meeting. He doesn't listen so you fire him for a bullshit reason, then call him a coward after from your oval office chair because he told people of your intimidation. 10/10

Also keep saying it's illegal many times so your base will believe that instead of the law
Neosteel Enthusiast
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 15:33:48
June 11 2017 15:31 GMT
#156674
On June 11 2017 22:59 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/873879934040780801

So you intimidate an employee to do your wish in a 1v1 meeting. He doesn't listen so you fire him for a bullshit reason, then call him a coward after from your oval office chair because he told people of your intimidation. 10/10

Also keep saying it's illegal many times so your base will believe that instead of the law


It's fascinating that he's now calling a man who lost his job rather than pledge loyalty and publicly owned up to sending his memos to the press a coward. It really is possible to deduce everything about Trump from what he calls other people.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 11 2017 16:53 GMT
#156675
On June 11 2017 22:59 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/873879934040780801

So you intimidate an employee to do your wish in a 1v1 meeting. He doesn't listen so you fire him for a bullshit reason, then call him a coward after from your oval office chair because he told people of your intimidation. 10/10

Also keep saying it's illegal many times so your base will believe that instead of the law

Just when I thought he turned a new leaf and stopped tweeting so much... guess that couldn't last.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 11 2017 17:01 GMT
#156676
Cowardly is in quotes so clearly he doesn't not maybe kinda perhaps mean it.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
June 11 2017 17:26 GMT
#156677
My favorite part is how it says
Totally Illegal?
with a question mark because it's not actually illegal so he'd look worse if he directly called it illegal, but he poses the question to fool people.
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
June 11 2017 17:29 GMT
#156678
One minor structural reform I've considered for House of reps rules, a rule to be added, approximately worded as:
each representative is entitled to propose one bill per Congress, not to exceed 20 pages in length, which shall be put to a recorded floor vote. no amendments may be made to this bill without the consent of the author. all such bills must be filed by May of the 2nd year of that Congress.


purpose-wise: it annoys me when congress uses procedural rules to try to avoid voting on something controversial, or waters down/distorts a bill through amendments. this is meant to ensure that the minority party, whoever it is at the time, has a chance to make people put their votes on the record on some topics. It's also meant to allow simple, useful bills to be put forth without getting messed with by riders/amendments.
the length limit is of course so people have time to properly read the bills (and could easily be adjusted to a word limit and changed in size, I just made a guess on size). time limit is so everyone doesn't file them at the end of the congress leaving not enough time to do them all.
I don't yet know whether this rule would truly be beneficial; it sounds nice and promising. In general, I think more reform to the rules governing the process is something that should be done; but it isn't much in the public consciousness.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 19:04:03
June 11 2017 17:35 GMT
#156679
“We got something in common,” Dale Ross told Al Gore last summer. “You invented the internet. And I invented green energy.”

Ross, the mayor of Georgetown, Texas — pop. 65,000 — was having a bit of fun with the former vice president and longtime environmental activist. But, in the coming months, his rapid ascendancy in the renewable-energy cosmos might make the boast seem less of a joke.

The mayor has recently been interviewed by a Dutch film crew and appeared on both NPR and MSNBC. He spoke last month at the Earth Optimism Summit in Washington, sponsored by the Smithsonian Conversation Commons. And in the coming months, he will take on the role of unlikely hero in three high-profile documentary films, including the sequel to Gore’s 2006 hit, "An Inconvenient Truth."

A volunteer politician from a little-known town in central Texas, Ross might otherwise be laboring at his more workaday tasks: issuing proclamations to residents who turn 100 and promoting the beauty of Georgetown’s central square. But he is becoming a national media darling because, in an era of hardened political boundaries, he has unapologetically colored outside ideological lines. He is a Republican, a conservative and a Donald Trump voter (with an asterisk on the last point) who is so committed to green energy he has pushed his city to become one of the first in the country to get all of its electricity from the wind and the sun.

A hip video blogger from Los Angeles showed up not long ago to hear Ross’s rap on renewable energy.

“We’ve got an endless supply of wind and sun,” the mayor said on the blog. “I’ll take that bet over fossil fuels, any day of the week.” The bearded, denim-clad blogger from the West Coast, who goes by his first name, Hyla, quickly embraced the the mayor, wearing white shirt and bow-tie, as “my honorable Republican homie.”

Ross, 58, makes time for all curious outsiders — even when one-hour interviews stretch to four. “My Tea Party friends accuse me of being a Democrat,” Ross chuckled. “But we need to put national politics aside and make decisions that are best for the people we serve.”

Though he clearly doesn’t shrink from the attention, Ross says it’s really all about the city he loves. A conversation with him will not end without at least one boast about the town square (acclaimed for its beauty and preservation of 19th-century architecture), a beloved swimming hole (though the map appears to put that an hour south of town) and the relentless hospitality offered by what he calls “the greatest city on earth!”


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/republican-mayor-texas-clean-energy-no-brainer-n769056
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
June 11 2017 17:38 GMT
#156680
On June 12 2017 02:26 micronesia wrote:
My favorite part is how it says
Show nested quote +
Totally Illegal?
with a question mark because it's not actually illegal so he'd look worse if he directly called it illegal, but he poses the question to fool people.


Noticed that too, shows intent about his own lies lol
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