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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12011 Posts
April 13 2017 16:55 GMT
#146681
On April 14 2017 01:54 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
wasn't that bomb in some video game? I'm sure this is going to be effective.


http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Mother_Of_All_Bombs
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 13 2017 16:56 GMT
#146682
It isn't even a bomb meant for hard targets like bunkers or mountains. But I'm sure they will be able to justify dropping it in that area and say it did "massive damage".
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
April 13 2017 16:59 GMT
#146683
On April 14 2017 01:52 Yurie wrote:
11 tons TNT if the type reported in news is correct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast


From that link:

The MOAB is not a penetrator weapon and is primarily intended for soft to medium surface targets covering extended areas and targets in a contained environment such as a deep canyon or within a cave system.


Sounds like an appropriate use, right?
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12011 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-13 17:03:00
April 13 2017 17:00 GMT
#146684
On April 14 2017 01:59 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2017 01:52 Yurie wrote:
11 tons TNT if the type reported in news is correct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast


From that link:
Show nested quote +

The MOAB is not a penetrator weapon and is primarily intended for soft to medium surface targets covering extended areas and targets in a contained environment such as a deep canyon or within a cave system.


Sounds like an appropriate use, right?


I don't even know where exactly it hit or what the target was. So no clue. I am not a demolitions expert either.

The only risk is that Russia might escalate and use their more powerful FOAB on a target, just to show that they also can...
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-13 17:03:47
April 13 2017 17:03 GMT
#146685
On April 14 2017 02:00 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2017 01:59 Mohdoo wrote:
On April 14 2017 01:52 Yurie wrote:
11 tons TNT if the type reported in news is correct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast


From that link:

The MOAB is not a penetrator weapon and is primarily intended for soft to medium surface targets covering extended areas and targets in a contained environment such as a deep canyon or within a cave system.


Sounds like an appropriate use, right?


I don't even know where exactly it hit or what the target was. So no clue. I am not a demolitions expert either.

The only risk is that Russia might escalate and use their heavier FOAB on a target, just to show that they also can...


So long as that bomb is aimed at extremists, fire away, Russia! Putin and Trump beating their chests to show who can bomb the most extremists sounds A+ to me.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 13 2017 17:03 GMT
#146686
Never underestimates the US military's desire to use the biggest thing they have just because it would be scary. If it isn't effective, they can just ask to drop a different bomb.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12011 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-13 17:11:03
April 13 2017 17:05 GMT
#146687
On April 14 2017 02:03 Plansix wrote:
Never underestimates the US military's desire to use the biggest thing they have just because it would be scary. If it isn't effective, they can just ask to drop a different bomb.


It is still very far from a nuclear device. Even further from a thermonuclear one. I hope people realise that and don't overreact. Still think it was in poor taste to use it at all. I personally don't want people developing stronger and stronger non-nuclear devices to use...

Edit. I do know that enough conventional weapons has the same effect as a weaker nuclear device when seen to direct and indirect damage (excluding radiation).
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22072 Posts
April 13 2017 17:07 GMT
#146688
On April 14 2017 01:59 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2017 01:52 Yurie wrote:
11 tons TNT if the type reported in news is correct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast


From that link:
Show nested quote +

The MOAB is not a penetrator weapon and is primarily intended for soft to medium surface targets covering extended areas and targets in a contained environment such as a deep canyon or within a cave system.


Sounds like an appropriate use, right?

Surely for it to be effective against a cave system you would need to set it off inside the cave. Sounds like no longer need the bomb by the time you can use it (against caves, I'm sure it works wonders on an open field)

Also, what are the odds this is meant to distract from Carter Page and the latest developments in Trumpghazi.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
April 13 2017 17:09 GMT
#146689
The MOAB is a stupid weapon for the same reason that "win more" cards in hearthstone are not generally very good.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 13 2017 17:12 GMT
#146690
How many beautiful babies died I wonder?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 13 2017 17:12 GMT
#146691
It was specifically created to intimidate. There isn't a lot of reason to deploy the worlds larges daisy cutter in the desert. Or ever really.

But I do not need to stretch my imagination to picture how this plan got approved.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-13 17:15:44
April 13 2017 17:14 GMT
#146692
if bigger is better you can always try to bring this ingenious german invention back


This bomb sounds like an incredibly stupid weapon. Probably killed a ton of civilians again. In related news another airstrike in Syria earlier today killed about 20 allied fighters
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
April 13 2017 17:15 GMT
#146693
Trump deciding to shock and awe ISIS away?
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9636 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-13 17:22:27
April 13 2017 17:17 GMT
#146694
spicey gonna have a rough day at the podium..or just 'i'll have to take that question' and other evasiveness.

already 20 mins late too, finding out what the party story is. as i wrote this the press got the two minute warning, he won't be too late after all.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-13 17:20:19
April 13 2017 17:19 GMT
#146695
Everybody will remember where they were when they found out the US started WW3 because the president was afraid to look weak.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
April 13 2017 17:20 GMT
#146696
I think it was the case of someone wanting to make room in his ammo depot xD

It doesn't look very interesting. It's just a insanely large bomb. Like large enough to destroy your house even if it's a dud bomb

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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 13 2017 17:22 GMT
#146697
If only people had warned us about this possible outcome. If someone had predicted this....we would likely have made the same decision
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 13 2017 17:28 GMT
#146698
On April 14 2017 01:55 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2017 01:54 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
wasn't that bomb in some video game? I'm sure this is going to be effective.


http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Mother_Of_All_Bombs

We definitely need to start bombing the GLA camps. They have a whole network of underground tunnels, how can we be just so lax about those terrorists? We can't let the Chinese take credit, can we?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 13 2017 17:45 GMT
#146699
You know, when I first heard this, I thought this was a joke. Then I remembered who the president of USA is. Got to do a Russia and distract people from domestic issues. I really hope there is a video though.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
April 13 2017 17:46 GMT
#146700
How many years of cancer therapy would that be?
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