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There is also the black bloc, who will show up for any large protest in driving distance of Portland and god knows where else.
This stuff is going to get worse before it gets better. Lots of people have lost a lot of faith in systems and administrations to protect them from harm. Even if their feelings of fear are completely irrational, it is real to them. People perceive reality to be more dangerous than it is and our leaders are doing little to dissuade that belief. Whether it is the Trump supporter or the progressive protester, there are people who no longer feel like institutions have their back.
On February 10 2017 05:51 Logo wrote:Spicer says an attack on Ivanka's clothing line is attack on Trump's daughter and he has every right to stand up for them. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sean-spicer-attack-ivanka-trump-clothing-line-direct-us-president-donald-white-house-press-secretary-a7570691.htmlThis should really be alarming and terrifying far beyond the coverage it has gotten. It's not even the nepotism or corruption here, it's that Trump believe it is his right to attack out against those that attack his brand (or in this case his daughter's brand). There was an article around the election that pointed out this very concern. That with Trump hotels all around the world an attack on one of them would be strung together as an attack on America. The way this Ivanka thing is being handled really makes that sort of scenario much more plausible in a very scary way.
This is why ethics experts said Trump and his family need to divest. This won't stop and is the exact reason why every other president has divested in the past.
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I'm mostly enjoying the chaos in a nation-schadenfreude sort of way. You have to survive sometimes.
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On February 10 2017 06:02 LegalLord wrote:
I'm mostly enjoying the chaos in a nation-schadenfreude sort of way. You have to survive sometimes.
People of color with families on green cards and visas don't find the lack of guidance and resistance to trump from the house and senate funny.
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Trump is done for I think, the latest twitter attack on mcain is the straw that will break the camels back so to say.
All this tweeting,its fun at the start but after a while it is a bit ridiculous. Very unpresidential,he just can,t let go. Its a bit of a disappointment I have to admit.
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On February 10 2017 06:05 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 06:02 LegalLord wrote:
I'm mostly enjoying the chaos in a nation-schadenfreude sort of way. You have to survive sometimes. People of color with families on green cards and visas don't find the lack of guidance and resistance to trump from the house and senate funny.
Yes, that is not lost on me.
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You'd think if there was anything to bring the party together and unite all the disparate factions (and snipe off a demo or two at the same time) that resistance to trump would be it.
Granted Bernie sanders isn't the guy who will win a presidential campaign in four years but hes the perfect reliever to wag the flag for the midterm before he crowns Joe Biden to lead the crusade forward.
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On February 10 2017 06:10 Sermokala wrote:
You'd think if there was anything to bring the party together and unite all the disparate factions (and snipe off a demo or two at the same time) that resistance to trump would be it.
Granted Bernie sanders isn't the guy who will win a presidential campaign in four years but hes the perfect reliever to wag the flag for the midterm before he crowns Joe Biden to lead the crusade forward.
nah elizabeth warren and her campaigns slogan 'We Will Persist.'
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On February 10 2017 06:05 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 06:02 LegalLord wrote:
I'm mostly enjoying the chaos in a nation-schadenfreude sort of way. You have to survive sometimes. People of color with families on green cards and visas don't find the lack of guidance and resistance to trump from the house and senate funny.
Have green card. Just sent off another 200 page document stack with $680 to renew it for another two years three days ago. I'm genuinely considering not leaving the country until I get citizenship due to shit like my opposition to Trump on social media. Low chance of anything happening but a huge potential downside. This government fluctuates rapidly between funny and sad.
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On February 10 2017 06:05 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 06:02 LegalLord wrote:
I'm mostly enjoying the chaos in a nation-schadenfreude sort of way. You have to survive sometimes. People of color with families on green cards and visas don't find the lack of guidance and resistance to trump from the house and senate funny.
Exactly. And people like Milo who gleefully watches as his speeches and actions lead to people fearing harassment or worse have not helped. The acceptance or indifference to this person as a champion of "free speech" has not helped. The indifference to David Duke and Richard Spencer. So now we have reached a point where the lefts indifference to harassment and fear is equal. Where the left doesn't really care if anti-fascist are straight up bad.
And now we just wait to come out the other side.
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On February 10 2017 06:10 Sermokala wrote:
You'd think if there was anything to bring the party together and unite all the disparate factions (and snipe off a demo or two at the same time) that resistance to trump would be it.
Granted Bernie sanders isn't the guy who will win a presidential campaign in four years but hes the perfect reliever to wag the flag for the midterm before he crowns Joe Biden to lead the crusade forward.
Unfortunately the Democrats hate each other almost as much as they hate Trump.
Leftists not getting along is a story that repeats itself across the world.
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On February 10 2017 06:14 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 06:10 Sermokala wrote:
You'd think if there was anything to bring the party together and unite all the disparate factions (and snipe off a demo or two at the same time) that resistance to trump would be it.
Granted Bernie sanders isn't the guy who will win a presidential campaign in four years but hes the perfect reliever to wag the flag for the midterm before he crowns Joe Biden to lead the crusade forward. Unfortunately the Democrats hate each other almost as much as they hate Trump. Leftists not getting along is a story that repeats itself across the world.
Until the heat death of the universe.
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On February 10 2017 06:11 brian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 06:10 Sermokala wrote:
You'd think if there was anything to bring the party together and unite all the disparate factions (and snipe off a demo or two at the same time) that resistance to trump would be it.
Granted Bernie sanders isn't the guy who will win a presidential campaign in four years but hes the perfect reliever to wag the flag for the midterm before he crowns Joe Biden to lead the crusade forward. nah elizabeth warren and her campaigns slogan 'We Will Persist.'
That worked out real well with that woman from texas
not including her name because I'm judging all of you more left them me posters for forgetting her name.
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I think Warren belongs in the Senate. She lacks the charm that would be needed to become President.
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On February 10 2017 06:11 brian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 06:10 Sermokala wrote:
You'd think if there was anything to bring the party together and unite all the disparate factions (and snipe off a demo or two at the same time) that resistance to trump would be it.
Granted Bernie sanders isn't the guy who will win a presidential campaign in four years but hes the perfect reliever to wag the flag for the midterm before he crowns Joe Biden to lead the crusade forward. nah elizabeth warren and her campaigns slogan 'We Will Persist.'
I don't know if she will run for president to be honest. She has been pretty open about liking the Senate.
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On February 10 2017 06:07 pmh wrote:
Trump is done for I think, the latest twitter attack on mcain is the straw that will break the camels back so to say.
All this tweeting,its fun at the start but after a while it is a bit ridiculous. Very unpresidential,he just can,t let go. Its a bit of a disappointment I have to admit.
The GOP House and Senate have yet to cement their power so they still have a use for him.
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On February 10 2017 06:19 LegalLord wrote:
I think Warren belongs in the Senate. She lacks the charm that would be needed to become President.
donny not setting that bar too high rn.
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On February 10 2017 06:21 brian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 06:19 LegalLord wrote:
I think Warren belongs in the Senate. She lacks the charm that would be needed to become President. donny not setting that bar too high rn.
But perhaps Democrats might be inclined to choose someone who might win two terms.
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On February 10 2017 06:20 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 06:07 pmh wrote:
Trump is done for I think, the latest twitter attack on mcain is the straw that will break the camels back so to say.
All this tweeting,its fun at the start but after a while it is a bit ridiculous. Very unpresidential,he just can,t let go. Its a bit of a disappointment I have to admit. The GOP House and Senate have yet to cement their power so they still have a use for him.
I think the GOP House and Senate are slowly realizing they are super fucked. They are not going to get shit done with him in office.
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On February 10 2017 06:16 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 06:14 LegalLord wrote:On February 10 2017 06:10 Sermokala wrote:
You'd think if there was anything to bring the party together and unite all the disparate factions (and snipe off a demo or two at the same time) that resistance to trump would be it.
Granted Bernie sanders isn't the guy who will win a presidential campaign in four years but hes the perfect reliever to wag the flag for the midterm before he crowns Joe Biden to lead the crusade forward. Unfortunately the Democrats hate each other almost as much as they hate Trump. Leftists not getting along is a story that repeats itself across the world. Until the heat death of the universe.
I want a better solution to progressive cannibalism than entropy...
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On February 10 2017 06:24 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 06:16 Plansix wrote:On February 10 2017 06:14 LegalLord wrote:On February 10 2017 06:10 Sermokala wrote:
You'd think if there was anything to bring the party together and unite all the disparate factions (and snipe off a demo or two at the same time) that resistance to trump would be it.
Granted Bernie sanders isn't the guy who will win a presidential campaign in four years but hes the perfect reliever to wag the flag for the midterm before he crowns Joe Biden to lead the crusade forward. Unfortunately the Democrats hate each other almost as much as they hate Trump. Leftists not getting along is a story that repeats itself across the world. Until the heat death of the universe. I want a better solution to progressive cannibalism than entropy...
Charisma, mostly.
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