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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
November 09 2016 08:11 GMT
#122021
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
November 09 2016 08:11 GMT
#122022
which song is being played on the stream?
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 08:11:58
November 09 2016 08:11 GMT
#122023
On November 09 2016 17:09 Danglars wrote:
Liberals, you have overstepped about one to five percent. And you lost to TRUMP as a result. I can't believe it. He can't even run a convincing campaign.

Pennsylvania was a dream, and holy hell, it still feels like a dream. Wisconsin and Michigan and you were in a coma hallucinating. But really, you oversold Obamacare, foreign policy by experts, the malign effects of racism sexism and transphobia, and a dozen other issues. I'm frankly very satisfied knowing you'll blame the voting population for being too dumb to be trusted to vote in the country's best interest (the more radical ones will say in their own self interest). It might get us another reorienting election.

Something tells me we'll get to see whether those claims were oversold within the next two years.

...well, this is why we have this system of government. It'll work out, or it will not.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 09 2016 08:11 GMT
#122024
On November 09 2016 17:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
To all people who say Trump presidency won't hurt them go and phone your retirements funds.

Capital markets are falling, tech giants stocks are plummeting, Dow futures heading into abyss. Now you can learn an extra thing how finance are working. Hint: taxes is a small thing.

please sell all your stock so i can buy it. and in a few years, i will be rich, and you will be poor. im willing to bet my retirement on it.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
November 09 2016 08:12 GMT
#122025
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Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
November 09 2016 08:12 GMT
#122026
On November 09 2016 17:09 wuhan_clan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 17:07 Racket wrote:
On November 09 2016 17:02 wuhan_clan wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:56 the bear jew wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:53 wuhan_clan wrote:
Look I'm glad Trump won. I even voted for him. But I'll be the first to admit he''ll likely be a disaster. I just knew that Hillary was going to seal the fate of the country long term because of her corrupt ties. We'll laugh at Trump for 4 years and then a legit candidate (and I don't mean a socialist) can take the seat.

But the people who are acting like their lives are over is just unreal. For fucks sake it's not that bad.


No it's not over, but for Supreme Court Justices who can serve for decades, that will vastly shape your lifetime, your rights, long after President Trump is gone.

For Global Warming, which is real, which requires urgent action yesterday, where time is precious and we already don't have enough to stop it and are fighting to prevent the very worst effects, your children, your grandchildren and descendants will suffer.

Cause our next President said it was a myth to make us less competitive vs China. President Trump might be gone in four years, or maybe eight, but so many things will remain and in my opinion, damage this country and this Earth long after.


Good that you brought up the Supreme Court because I'd rather see conservative judges.

Oh and if you are going to bring up global warming, I hope you know that the REAL fight against global warming is actually against the meat industry. Little known fact is that cattle raising is BY FAR the number one source of green house gases. Combine that with deforestation for land to raise cattle, it's easily the number one cause. I couldn't give a shit about global warming anymore because no one is allowed to address half the problem so the problem can't get solved anyway. FYI, it's a little known fact that there are laws in the US where you can't publicly criticize the meat industry. Even Oprah got fucked by this law before.

Ermm yea.. no. The biggest contributors to global warming are volcanoes, and given it is a natural process, all this global warming stuff is a lie built on ignorance and lies to take advantage of ignorants and conservative scientists.


I am limiting to man-created sources because that is the premise of the global warming issue, that it's a direct result of human activity.

You are right, all in all, what we do is insignificant in comparison to nature's numbers. But whatever, lets go back to politics.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 08:15:30
November 09 2016 08:13 GMT
#122027
On November 09 2016 17:09 Danglars wrote:
But really, you oversold... the malign effects of racism sexism and transphobia,

These are not oversold and please take a good hard look at yourself tonight before you say it again
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
November 09 2016 08:14 GMT
#122028
Where does all this 'Bernie would do better' come from? He lost to Clinton by millions of votes. All he's got going for him is being an outsider and the young vote but that's it. I don't see how it'd make a difference.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 08:14 GMT
#122029
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
November 09 2016 08:14 GMT
#122030
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 08:16:54
November 09 2016 08:15 GMT
#122031
My closing thoughts on this night is that Im not that upset because likely one of two things will happen; either Trump will do a good enough job for the country that he earns a second term or he will f*** things up so badly he will lose in a landslide and handover the presidency and Congress in 4 years to dems.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
November 09 2016 08:16 GMT
#122032
On November 09 2016 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 17:07 Ghostcom wrote:
On November 09 2016 17:06 plasmidghost wrote:
I'm sad Trump didn't decide to play "The Wall" by Pink Floyd


Roger Waters would've sued him into oblivion

Instead Mick Jagger is going to sure him into oblivion? Or is he gambling on the Stones being too drugged out to care?


I have no idea what the Stones are, but Waters has a history of being quite a bit more about sticking it to the man. When he performs Brain Damage it's not unusual to see plenty of modern day leaders (and indeed Trump is incredibly likely going to be one of them) projected unto the wall.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
November 09 2016 08:16 GMT
#122033
On November 09 2016 17:02 wuhan_clan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 16:56 the bear jew wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:53 wuhan_clan wrote:
Look I'm glad Trump won. I even voted for him. But I'll be the first to admit he''ll likely be a disaster. I just knew that Hillary was going to seal the fate of the country long term because of her corrupt ties. We'll laugh at Trump for 4 years and then a legit candidate (and I don't mean a socialist) can take the seat.

But the people who are acting like their lives are over is just unreal. For fucks sake it's not that bad.


No it's not over, but for Supreme Court Justices who can serve for decades, that will vastly shape your lifetime, your rights, long after President Trump is gone.

For Global Warming, which is real, which requires urgent action yesterday, where time is precious and we already don't have enough to stop it and are fighting to prevent the very worst effects, your children, your grandchildren and descendants will suffer.

Cause our next President said it was a myth to make us less competitive vs China. President Trump might be gone in four years, or maybe eight, but so many things will remain and in my opinion, damage this country and this Earth long after.


Good that you brought up the Supreme Court because I'd rather see conservative judges.

Oh and if you are going to bring up global warming, I hope you know that the REAL fight against global warming is actually against the meat industry. Little known fact is that cattle raising is BY FAR the number one source of green house gases. Combine that with deforestation for land to raise cattle, it's easily the number one cause. I couldn't give a shit about global warming anymore because no one is allowed to address half the problem so the problem can't get solved anyway. FYI, it's a little known fact that there are laws in the US where you can't publicly criticize the meat industry. Even Oprah got fucked by this law before.


So you are saying, "the house is on fire, but we can't ever get to the root of the problem, so let's just let it burn down and fuck it."

Wooo. yes, cattle are a huge green houes gas producer, yes political it is hard to deal with the many varied sources and causes for it, that doesn't mean we should just right it off and elect someone who denies it.

And why do you want conservative judges? So they won't legislate from the bench? They do that just the same as the so called "liberal activist judges." Except they legislate what Republicans like, so it's all hunky dory.

Reasons I don't want Conservative Judges,

Gay Marriage, there is 0 reason to stop 2 consenting adults from getting married in civil society. There are many, many benefits that only married people can get that gay people could not get for themselves and their partners without being married. Hospital access to sick spouse, legal benefits, economic benefits, etc.

If religious institutions don't want to give them a religious recognition? That's fine by me, but we need in our non religious civil society to let them be married.

I can think of more, but I am tired, its' 3 am and I have work. Good night and good luck.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
November 09 2016 08:16 GMT
#122034
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Lockitupv2
Profile Joined March 2012
United States496 Posts
November 09 2016 08:17 GMT
#122035
What song did Trump walk out to? Was it the Air Force One theme (movie starting harrison ford)
That's right folks, I definitely heard an ethnic twang in that voice, so everyone put your guesses on the screen. It's everyone's favorite game, it's Guess the Minority!!!
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5226 Posts
November 09 2016 08:17 GMT
#122036
And the band played on.
Noidberg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States17 Posts
November 09 2016 08:17 GMT
#122037
On November 09 2016 17:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 17:09 Danglars wrote:
But really, you oversold... the malign effects of racism sexism and transphobia,

These are not oversold and please take a good hard look at yourself tonight before you say it again


Yeah please just stop it, leave ethics out of it. This movement was about making our country strong and safe for ALL Americans.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 09 2016 08:17 GMT
#122038
On November 09 2016 17:15 On_Slaught wrote:
My closing thoughts on this night is that Im not that upset because likely one of two things will happen; either Trump will do a good enough job that he earns a second term or he will f*** things up so badly he will lose in a landslide and handover the presidency and Congress in 4 years to dems.


Then it will be the Dems turn to be the smug assholes with "I told you so". The cycle continues -_-
Never Knows Best.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
November 09 2016 08:18 GMT
#122039
On November 09 2016 17:15 On_Slaught wrote:
My closing thoughts on this night is that Im not that upset because likely one of two things will happen; either Trump will do a good enough job for the country that he earns a second term or he will f*** things up so badly he will lose in a landslide and handover the presidency and Congress in 4 years to dems.


Four years is a long time, long lasting damage can be done in lesser.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
November 09 2016 08:19 GMT
#122040
On November 09 2016 17:14 RvB wrote:
Where does all this 'Bernie would do better' come from? He lost to Clinton by millions of votes. All he's got going for him is being an outsider and the young vote but that's it. I don't see how it'd make a difference.


One difference that has been glossed over is that he's a man and Hillary is a woman. There's still a lot of sexism in our society, whether explicit or implicit, which is certainly a contributing factor.
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