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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
October 20 2016 03:16 GMT
#114061
On October 20 2016 12:14 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 12:13 travis wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:12 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:11 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Pretty low of the moderator who made and stickied that poll, smh. Be impartial please.


The poll is only going to get botted anyway. It serves no actual purpose.


so is there proof that this is what happens? Why are bots instantly showing up at some obscure poll on TL?

R1CH confirmed it. And because that's the kind of election we're doing this year I guess. If reality says Trump is losing then reality must be corrected by the Trump fans.

I find it sad they're scouring for any poll related to the election this year and botting on a website dedicated to e-sports.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
October 20 2016 03:17 GMT
#114062
On October 20 2016 12:14 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 12:03 FiWiFaKi wrote:
So, is there anyway that Hillary can win re-election in 2020?

I would hope not, but at this point, the US feels like a one-party system with the Republicans being a bit of a joke since like year 2000.


Every single cycle due to demographic changes it gets harder for republicans to win the white house. By 2020 itll be very hard and by 2024 virtually impossible barring a massive change in the party but the membership wont let that change happen.


Exactly what I mean with the one party system thing.

I've always thought myself as more Democrat than Republican, but there's no choice. Like so many Democrats got so invested in the anti-Trump thing this time around, but don't you see there's no choice on your part?... By having Trump as a distraction, you totally forget about what kind of Democracy you want. I thought the DNC favorability thing was pretty telling.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
October 20 2016 03:17 GMT
#114063
On October 20 2016 12:15 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 12:14 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:13 travis wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:12 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:11 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Pretty low of the moderator who made and stickied that poll, smh. Be impartial please.


The poll is only going to get botted anyway. It serves no actual purpose.


so is there proof that this is what happens? Why are bots instantly showing up at some obscure poll on TL?


We went over this last debate. The results don't reflect the reality of TL for starters. Also R1CH says they're getting botted, end of.


You know that I was just like, legitimately asking right?

It gets old when people think that literally everything is an argument


Because we went over it like 1000 times last debate. It would be explained then next page "How do you know its being botted?" Then its explained again, then next page "How do you know its being botted?". It got quite annoying, sorry if it came off as rude. But we went over it repeatedly last debate
LiquidDota Staff
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
October 20 2016 03:17 GMT
#114064
Harry Enten (538 podcast) just endorsed not-Trump rather than not-voting, what will this endorsement mean?
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
October 20 2016 03:17 GMT
#114065
On October 20 2016 12:16 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 12:14 KwarK wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:13 travis wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:12 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:11 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Pretty low of the moderator who made and stickied that poll, smh. Be impartial please.


The poll is only going to get botted anyway. It serves no actual purpose.


so is there proof that this is what happens? Why are bots instantly showing up at some obscure poll on TL?

R1CH confirmed it. And because that's the kind of election we're doing this year I guess. If reality says Trump is losing then reality must be corrected by the Trump fans.

I find it sad they're scouring for any poll related to the election this year and botting on a website dedicated to e-sports.


I mean it could be a TL'er just being a fan of one of the two candidate. It's not like Trump supporters are a secret society... They are regular people all over the place.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 20 2016 03:18 GMT
#114066
Kellyanne Conway looks exhausted.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
October 20 2016 03:19 GMT
#114067
This was beautiful :-)
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
October 20 2016 03:19 GMT
#114068
Just a reminder that polls don't mean anything unless you get out and vote, if you're a Trump supporter and are discouraged or if you're a Clinton supporter and are confident, do your part make the future America you want a reality
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 20 2016 03:19 GMT
#114069
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
October 20 2016 03:20 GMT
#114070
Absolutely go vote even if you're voting for Trump.
LiquidDota Staff
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-20 03:23:07
October 20 2016 03:21 GMT
#114071
Really spurring my curiosity: How will this election affect Trump's business. Anyway.

Yeah, looks like we Trump guys wont win, but at least getting 45% will hopefully send a strong message that there's plenty of people unhappy with the current direction... Especially when that 45% people will have voted for almost suicide for their country to show their unhappiness.

That should be a strong message that things are not okay.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-20 03:22:57
October 20 2016 03:22 GMT
#114072
I know earlier on he lost a lot of business and deals. He may be able to replace them with new ones though; how well that happens will only be seen afterwards. if he can monetize his base he should turn a net profit even with all the stuff he's lost.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
October 20 2016 03:22 GMT
#114073
On October 20 2016 12:21 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Really spurring my curiosity: How will this election affect Trump's business. Anyway.


Supposedly it's worth 16% less than it used to be. With some poorly done analysis.

Considering how thoroughly his name has been dragged through the mud and how much of his net worth is the name it sounds about right to me, though.
CatharsisUT
Profile Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
October 20 2016 03:23 GMT
#114074
On October 20 2016 12:02 zlefin wrote:
Bleh, listening to more people's call-ins on cspan; so many people are so utterly clueless.
Reminds me of a basic balance problem in democracy:
balancing making all voices be heard and represented, and filtering out the stupid/crazy.


So are you like the most patient man in the world's apprentice?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 20 2016 03:23 GMT
#114075
On October 20 2016 12:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I mean it could be a TL'er just being a fan of one of the two candidate. It's not like Trump supporters are a secret society... They are regular people all over the place.

Maybe I think too highly of TL's Trump supporters, but none of the ones who active post are people who I think would waste time botting a poll in this thread. They all know this thread well enough to know that it would be obvious.
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-20 03:25:02
October 20 2016 03:24 GMT
#114076
https://www.facebook.com/TheRealMikeRowe/posts/1254500967893377

gonna repost Mike Rowe's ideas about telling people to vote after someone else linked him last time.
There is no one like you in the universe.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
October 20 2016 03:25 GMT
#114077
On October 20 2016 12:23 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 12:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I mean it could be a TL'er just being a fan of one of the two candidate. It's not like Trump supporters are a secret society... They are regular people all over the place.

Maybe I think too highly of TL's Trump supporters, but none of the ones who active post are people who I think would waste time botting a poll in this thread. They all know this thread well enough to know that it would be obvious.


I think in the first poll I showed my unhappiness with how people were reacting in this thread by voting on my computer, and then my phone too when I visited the thread again.

Shame on me I suppose.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
October 20 2016 03:25 GMT
#114078
On October 20 2016 12:21 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Really spurring my curiosity: How will this election affect Trump's business. Anyway.


This has been catastrophic for his businesses IMO. He's pissed off well over half the country. Most of his base can't afford his products. They're not staying at his hotels and stuff so this isn't good.

However doing something like TrumpTV is 100% the play. His current companies are doomed, that's where he can still make money. His base will watch the alt-right nationalistic stuff and but the prepper products. He needs to shift that way if he doesn't want to end up bankrupt.
LiquidDota Staff
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 20 2016 03:25 GMT
#114079
On October 20 2016 12:23 CatharsisUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 12:02 zlefin wrote:
Bleh, listening to more people's call-ins on cspan; so many people are so utterly clueless.
Reminds me of a basic balance problem in democracy:
balancing making all voices be heard and represented, and filtering out the stupid/crazy.


So are you like the most patient man in the world's apprentice?

no.
I'm not sure how patient I am compared to the average, as I lack a good baseline, I find myself to be somewhat more patient than average, more than that I can't say.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 20 2016 03:25 GMT
#114080
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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