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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 20 2016 02:54 GMT
#114001
According to polls, Republicans have only won 4 debates ever, and all of them were close (again, in polls) except for Romney's first debate with Obama.
BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-11 19:18:57
October 20 2016 02:54 GMT
#114002
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
October 20 2016 02:54 GMT
#114003
On October 20 2016 11:50 oBlade wrote:
Would anyone indulge me in naming a debate where they thought a Republican won?


First Romney vs Obama debate
Something witty
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
October 20 2016 02:55 GMT
#114004
to quote ann richards, [trump] was really born with a silver foot in his mouth..
can i get my estro logo back pls
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
October 20 2016 02:55 GMT
#114005
Also, I do not understand Trump's bizarre decision to continue denying the intelligence reports about Russian hacking. It doesn't do him any favors, and wouldn't hurt him with his base at all, and is pointless if he is indeed a patsy...it has to be pure ego at this point.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 20 2016 02:55 GMT
#114006
On October 20 2016 11:54 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 11:52 jalstar wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:51 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:50 CorsairHero wrote:
i wonder how cruz would have done vs hillary


Cruz and Carson would have lost badly. Rubio would have slaughtered though.


I was thinking Kasich or Ryan or even Romney.


Biden destroyed Ryan, he's done for. Kasich or Romney would have done well too. They needed to put forth a sane centrist. The country wasn't asking a lot!

The GOP drove all the centrists out of their party. The closest things they have left are a few straggling single-issue voters.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 20 2016 02:56 GMT
#114007
On October 20 2016 11:50 oBlade wrote:
Would anyone indulge me in naming a debate where they thought a Republican won?


Abraham Lincoln against the entire bloody south.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-20 03:00:27
October 20 2016 02:56 GMT
#114008
On October 20 2016 11:54 jalstar wrote:
According to polls, Republicans have only won 4 debates ever, and all of them were close (again, in polls) except for Romney's first debate with Obama.


Pretty sure Dukakis unanimously lost that debate against Bush when he answered like a robot when asked about if he would support the death penalty for someone that raped his wife.



It's actually the moment that most people think single-handedly sank his campaign.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
October 20 2016 02:57 GMT
#114009
On October 20 2016 11:55 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 11:54 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:52 jalstar wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:51 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:50 CorsairHero wrote:
i wonder how cruz would have done vs hillary


Cruz and Carson would have lost badly. Rubio would have slaughtered though.


I was thinking Kasich or Ryan or even Romney.


Biden destroyed Ryan, he's done for. Kasich or Romney would have done well too. They needed to put forth a sane centrist. The country wasn't asking a lot!

The GOP drove all the centrists out of their party. The closest things they have left are a few straggling single-issue voters.


There were some in the primary but they decided to put a mad man up. It's not hard to put someone more likable than Hillary up against her. Well, its not hard in theory....in practice with their primary voters its impossible.
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-20 02:58:41
October 20 2016 02:57 GMT
#114010
I'm gonna guess the polls asking who won the debate, once aggregated, are gonna be around 60% hillary 40% trump.

also watching cspan; some of the callers in are of course complete idiots, sad. but can't expect random people calling in to be that knowledgeable.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 20 2016 02:57 GMT
#114011
538 podcast stream is up
http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/third-presidential-debate-election-2016/?ex_cid=promo_banner
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
October 20 2016 02:57 GMT
#114012


Link to 538 podcast deal.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 20 2016 02:58 GMT
#114013
On October 20 2016 11:57 zlefin wrote:
I'm gonna guess the polls asking who won the debate, once aggregated, are gonna be around 60% hillary 40% trump.

also watching cspan; some of the callers in are of course complete idiots, sad.

he lost bigly imo
© Current year.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
October 20 2016 02:59 GMT
#114014
I can't believe a candidate for President actually said "bigly" twice at the final presidential debate, thinking about it. It was definitely "bigly" and not "big league" too.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 20 2016 02:59 GMT
#114015
On October 20 2016 11:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 11:54 jalstar wrote:
According to polls, Republicans have only won 4 debates ever, and all of them were close (again, in polls) except for Romney's first debate with Obama.


Pretty sure Dukakis unanimously lost that debate against Reagan when he answered like a robot when asked about if he would support the death penalty for someone that raped his wife.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF9gSyku-fc

It's actually the moment that most people think single-handedly sank his campaign.


38% said Dukakis won, 29% said Bush.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/2443/instant-reaction-bush-beats-gore-second-debate.aspx
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-20 03:00:13
October 20 2016 02:59 GMT
#114016
Im not sure why the hell anything Big Don says would ever surprise me, but the "ill keep you in suspense" thing floored me. The flub of all flubs. Now I just hope he doesn't mean it when he gets crushed on the 8th...

I'm sure the most pissed off person by far is Pence. Have fun with that.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
October 20 2016 03:00 GMT
#114017
You're always going to have 20-40% of people who will vote R or D come hell or high water. If the party was actually running the corpse of Hitler they'd still vote for him. 20-40% are absolutely unswayable by anything in the universe.
LiquidDota Staff
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-20 03:01:08
October 20 2016 03:00 GMT
#114018
I think Trump will just run again in 2020 and we'll get to see more debates of him vs. Clinton to be honest. Unless the establishment doesn't run 5 people at once and just combines forces he can probably win the primaries even if he was wheelchair bound and drooling.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
October 20 2016 03:00 GMT
#114019
On October 20 2016 11:59 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 11:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:54 jalstar wrote:
According to polls, Republicans have only won 4 debates ever, and all of them were close (again, in polls) except for Romney's first debate with Obama.


Pretty sure Dukakis unanimously lost that debate against Reagan when he answered like a robot when asked about if he would support the death penalty for someone that raped his wife.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF9gSyku-fc

It's actually the moment that most people think single-handedly sank his campaign.


38% said Dukakis won, 29% said Bush.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/2443/instant-reaction-bush-beats-gore-second-debate.aspx


Sorry, Bush, not Reagan, mixing up my old presidents.

But that's surprising, interesting to see that poll.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
October 20 2016 03:01 GMT
#114020
The Republicans could have had an easy victory with Rand Paul as the nominee, what a shame
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