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Dan HH
Romania9149 Posts
On October 20 2016 11:39 LegalLord wrote: That may very well have been the most brutally lopsided debate of the three. Agreed as far as I'm concerned, but I expect voters to see it a little less lopsided than the 1st one in polls | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On October 20 2016 11:47 jalstar wrote: Almost any other Republican could have beaten Hillary this cycle, just keep calm and mention emails from time to time. Well, clearly the Republicans forget step 1 of their plan. Step 2 was discredit Hillary Clinton. Step 1 was to actually have a candidate running. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On October 20 2016 11:48 Dan HH wrote: Agreed as far as I'm concerned, but I expect voters to see it a little less lopsided than the 1st one in polls I agree, people had higher expectations for Trump in the first debate than for this one. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On October 20 2016 11:46 Stratos_speAr wrote: My analysis for the first two debates were quite nuanced. This one isn't. Trump was just fucking annihilated. He looked far worse than he did in the 1st debate. Same exact trajectory where he slowly came off the rails and rambled more and more, but this time, his answers were awful start to finish. Clinton was absolutely on top of her game for the vast majority of the night. There were questions here and there where she looked weak, but every time Trump had an opportunity, he failed HARD. There's never imo been a debate in politics anywhere with as bad of a performance as the first Trump debate. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Introvert
United States4884 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 20 2016 11:49 Introvert wrote: Where is my post debate poll? Need to vote "Wallace only". Don't think there will be one since the first two were bot-bombed by Trump supporters. | ||
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oBlade
United States5821 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
Wouldn't it make more sense to take the money and spend it on helping impoverished women and people suffering from AIDs (many of whom are gay)? | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On October 20 2016 11:48 FiWiFaKi wrote: My big issue with Hillary's debate performance, particularly from the start was she tried to go too emotional in nature... It has nothing to do with content, but then it's just about presentation. I thought Trump easily won the first half of the debate in the eyes of an average voter, but Hillary did better in the 2nd half (roughly from the point when he said he wouldn't support the president)... And I think the 2nd half was a bit better for Hillary than Trump's first half. He did ok from a holding together standpoint but wasn't winning any points. He was just holding the facade together. Once she said he went to mexico and folded on the wall, basically calling him a bitch he went off the rails and lost catastrophically. That's all it takes for the man to come unhinged and turn into a child. He wasn't actually doing anything though before he lost it. | ||
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
On October 20 2016 11:46 FiWiFaKi wrote: Yeah, too bad. I agree a lot philosophically with some of his positions, but the execution wasn't what it could have been for the entire campaign. He wasn't the prince that was promised. The thing is the war is not over yet. He wilL Start Trump TV, they will bang the drums of war for 4 years and then the alt-right will have a more polished candidate that will try to get the presidency. Donald basically just needed to rehearse his speeches at home, calmly .... go trough every point, hammer her on foreign policy, how she destabilized Libya that is now run by ISIS , Alqaeda and other Extremists, how she wants to arm the extremists in Aleppo.... The Syria refugee crisis that she helped to create, etc. Talking about how she accepts donations from Saudi Arabia was good but he could have talked about it more. How saudi's are bombing civilians in Yemen with american bombs. AMERICA NEEDS TO BE A BEACON OF DEMOCRACY AND NOT A FORCE OF TYRANNY. | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On October 20 2016 11:50 CorsairHero wrote: i wonder how cruz would have done vs hillary Cruz and Carson would have lost badly. Rubio would have slaughtered though. | ||
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Introvert
United States4884 Posts
On October 20 2016 11:50 CorsairHero wrote: i wonder how cruz would have done vs hillary Would have hammered her on issues. They both lack personality, so that would have been a draw. I would love to have seen that or Rubio, who despite his robot moment generally knows what he is talking about. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On October 20 2016 11:51 OuchyDathurts wrote: Cruz and Carson would have lost badly. Rubio would have slaughtered though. I was thinking Kasich or Ryan or even Romney. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On October 20 2016 11:50 oBlade wrote: Would anyone indulge me in naming a debate where they thought a Republican won? Dick Cheny demolished John Edwards in a debate that was almost as lopsided as the Clinton/Trump 1st debate in 2004 | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 20 2016 11:50 oBlade wrote: Would anyone indulge me in naming a debate where they thought a Republican won? Romney won the first debate against Obama. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 20 2016 11:50 CorsairHero wrote: i wonder how cruz would have done vs hillary Cruz has quite a few skeletons in his closet and the whole government shutdown thing is loathed by a lot of Americans. He also kind of creeped me out whenever he spoke, but Trump creeps me out even more and gets more support so. On October 20 2016 11:53 Stratos_speAr wrote: Romney won the first debate against Obama. Yep, got a big swing out of it too. Obama looked super tired if I remember correctly, it played poorly. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45217 Posts
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On October 20 2016 11:52 jalstar wrote: I was thinking Kasich or Ryan or even Romney. Biden destroyed Ryan, he's done for. Kasich or Romney would have done well too. They needed to put forth a sane centrist. The country wasn't asking a lot! | ||
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