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On October 17 2016 02:11 ImFromPortugal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 02:09 Plansix wrote:On October 17 2016 02:07 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 01:54 zlefin wrote:On October 17 2016 00:08 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 16 2016 23:58 zlefin wrote:
re: portugal
I'm sure they had lots of people like trump (also a total invitation to that Trevor Noah african leader skit); trump is simply far less useful than you think he is, and far more common.
Also not sure what kind of difference you think it would've made. I mean, someone that wants the well being of his own nationals first and wants to make america great again instead of being a corrupt leader like hillary that makes backdoor deals with other corrupt world leaders, that's what we have in Angola, i would like a nationalist there for a change. what i'm hearing is you have absolutely nothing but stuff that's not remotely true and no sense of reality. Trump is not an example of a low corruption person. All leaders favor their own nationals and want to make their countries better. at least in decent places, I dunno about shitty places in africa. also the notion that america isn't already great; or that trump's proposal would help anything (especially considering how vague they are) I'm talking about the shitty place in Africa i came from, we could do well with more people like Trump at least the nationalist ideas and the well being of the country. That assumes we can take him at face value. But Trump is like used car salesmen, he will say anything to get what he wants. So he says he will make America great because that is what people want to hear. And if you look at his buisness history, he has no problem going back on the a deal if it won't work out for him. I believe that if he wins as egocentric as he is he will try to be the best president ever he won't settle for less, even with his lack of understanding of politics he can hire people to do the job for him.
This makes perfect sense now. We don't need the best man for the job. We need the man who can hire the best people for the job. And these people will be truly magnificent. I have talked to them and you have never seen such good people before.
E: and just before you write this of as pure satire, what on earth makes you think Trump would even be competent at that? Or at least, more competent than Clinton?
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You don't understand how egocentrism works; he will consider himself to be best even when he's not; the inability to recognize mistakes does not make for good leaders.
He's also repeatedly proven himself unable to hire good people.
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On October 17 2016 02:11 ImFromPortugal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 02:09 Plansix wrote:On October 17 2016 02:07 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 01:54 zlefin wrote:On October 17 2016 00:08 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 16 2016 23:58 zlefin wrote:
re: portugal
I'm sure they had lots of people like trump (also a total invitation to that Trevor Noah african leader skit); trump is simply far less useful than you think he is, and far more common.
Also not sure what kind of difference you think it would've made. I mean, someone that wants the well being of his own nationals first and wants to make america great again instead of being a corrupt leader like hillary that makes backdoor deals with other corrupt world leaders, that's what we have in Angola, i would like a nationalist there for a change. what i'm hearing is you have absolutely nothing but stuff that's not remotely true and no sense of reality. Trump is not an example of a low corruption person. All leaders favor their own nationals and want to make their countries better. at least in decent places, I dunno about shitty places in africa. also the notion that america isn't already great; or that trump's proposal would help anything (especially considering how vague they are) I'm talking about the shitty place in Africa i came from, we could do well with more people like Trump at least the nationalist ideas and the well being of the country. That assumes we can take him at face value. But Trump is like used car salesmen, he will say anything to get what he wants. So he says he will make America great because that is what people want to hear. And if you look at his buisness history, he has no problem going back on the a deal if it won't work out for him. I believe that if he wins as egocentric as he is he will try to be the best president ever he won't settle for less, even with his lack of understanding of politics he can hire people to do the job for him. Show nested quote +well, your name is ImFromPortugal, and you list oyur country as portugal, so I tend to assume you're from portugal.
I admit Trump might be an improvement from what you have in angola, but so would hillary, and probably most us politiicans; even the ones that are crappy by US standards would probably be good by Angola standards.
nationalism isn't really super succcessful, it's more about good governance in general. And having leaders who want the country to be better (even with many different opinions about what that should be). She is corrupt and is not willing to change we already have lots of politicians like that in Africa, she makes deals with corrupt governments and oligarchies, we have that in Africa as well, not a big improvement.. if she was african instead of those millions she made with the speeches she would have billions.
you're a poor judge of levels of corruption if you think trump is any less corrupt; and if you think Hillary is at african levels of corruption.
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On October 17 2016 02:07 ImFromPortugal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 01:54 zlefin wrote:On October 17 2016 00:08 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 16 2016 23:58 zlefin wrote:
re: portugal
I'm sure they had lots of people like trump (also a total invitation to that Trevor Noah african leader skit); trump is simply far less useful than you think he is, and far more common.
Also not sure what kind of difference you think it would've made. I mean, someone that wants the well being of his own nationals first and wants to make america great again instead of being a corrupt leader like hillary that makes backdoor deals with other corrupt world leaders, that's what we have in Angola, i would like a nationalist there for a change. what i'm hearing is you have absolutely nothing but stuff that's not remotely true and no sense of reality. Trump is not an example of a low corruption person. All leaders favor their own nationals and want to make their countries better. at least in decent places, I dunno about shitty places in africa. also the notion that america isn't already great; or that trump's proposal would help anything (especially considering how vague they are) I'm talking about the shitty place in Africa i came from (Angola) if you don't know the country you can check the wikipedia link if you feel like learning about shitty places https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angola . We could do well with more people like Trump in Africa at least the nationalist ideas and the well being of the country.
That's right. You think Africa needs more leaders like Trump that will jail their political opponents, silence the press, stuff their own pockets via corruption and sow discord in their communities.
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On October 17 2016 02:15 zlefin wrote:
You don't understand how egocentrism works; he will consider himself to be best even when he's not; the inability to recognize mistakes does not make for good leaders.
He's also repeatedly proven himself unable to hire good people.
Of course he won't hire good people. He will hire the best people. And we're gonna win.
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I was talking with some people voting Trump over the weekend and the impression I got is that they consider it a dice roll. They don't expect him to fix much of anything either, at this point their presumption is that Trump would probably bring more status quo, but that his incompetence at trying to execute it would expose it rather than embolden it as a Hillary win would.
So the contention is that Trump wouldn't intentionally destroy the status quo of legal corruption, but that by trying to take advantage of it so sloppily, actually do more to stop it than one who's adept at it would.
Since, as I pointed out, Hillary has essentially adopted the Republican position of "money=speech" and Trump's gotten plenty of attention for poorly executed political donations, I don't think it's that absurd a position, at least pertaining to particular policies.
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On October 17 2016 02:17 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 02:11 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 02:09 Plansix wrote:On October 17 2016 02:07 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 01:54 zlefin wrote:On October 17 2016 00:08 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 16 2016 23:58 zlefin wrote:
re: portugal
I'm sure they had lots of people like trump (also a total invitation to that Trevor Noah african leader skit); trump is simply far less useful than you think he is, and far more common.
Also not sure what kind of difference you think it would've made. I mean, someone that wants the well being of his own nationals first and wants to make america great again instead of being a corrupt leader like hillary that makes backdoor deals with other corrupt world leaders, that's what we have in Angola, i would like a nationalist there for a change. what i'm hearing is you have absolutely nothing but stuff that's not remotely true and no sense of reality. Trump is not an example of a low corruption person. All leaders favor their own nationals and want to make their countries better. at least in decent places, I dunno about shitty places in africa. also the notion that america isn't already great; or that trump's proposal would help anything (especially considering how vague they are) I'm talking about the shitty place in Africa i came from, we could do well with more people like Trump at least the nationalist ideas and the well being of the country. That assumes we can take him at face value. But Trump is like used car salesmen, he will say anything to get what he wants. So he says he will make America great because that is what people want to hear. And if you look at his buisness history, he has no problem going back on the a deal if it won't work out for him. I believe that if he wins as egocentric as he is he will try to be the best president ever he won't settle for less, even with his lack of understanding of politics he can hire people to do the job for him. well, your name is ImFromPortugal, and you list oyur country as portugal, so I tend to assume you're from portugal.
I admit Trump might be an improvement from what you have in angola, but so would hillary, and probably most us politiicans; even the ones that are crappy by US standards would probably be good by Angola standards.
nationalism isn't really super succcessful, it's more about good governance in general. And having leaders who want the country to be better (even with many different opinions about what that should be). She is corrupt and is not willing to change we already have lots of politicians like that in Africa, she makes deals with corrupt governments and oligarchies, we have that in Africa as well, not a big improvement.. if she was african instead of those millions she made with the speeches she would have billions. you're a poor judge of levels of corruption if you think trump is any less corrupt; and if you think Hillary is at african levels of corruption.
The kingdom of Saudi Arabia donated more than $10 million. Through a foundation, so did the son-in-law of a former Ukrainian president whose government was widely criticized for corruption and the murder of journalists. A Lebanese-Nigerian developer with vast business interests contributed as much as $5 million.
- Receives donations from dictators - check
- Receives money from shady African billionaires - check
- Uses shady practices to surpass political opponents - check
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-charity.html
That's right. You think Africa needs more leaders like Trump that will jail their political opponents, silence the press, stuff their own pockets via corruption and sow discord in their communities.
I said Africa needs more nationalists that want the best for the country.
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I don't think Americans know what a truly corrupt country is like.
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portugal:
And that money goes to charity, rather than massively lining her own pockets to the tune of billions of dollars.
And again, the notion that TRUMP is any better is absurd.
Yes, hillary isn't a stellar example of honesty, or even close to it; but your allegations simply don't hold up to scrutiny or conform to reality. I'm sorry, there's nothing I can really do to help it if you can't see that, we've already posted in this thread plenty of info to establish such.
also, just cuz someone wants what's best for the country doesn't mean they have any idea what will ACTUALLY do best for the country.
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On October 17 2016 02:24 ImFromPortugal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 02:17 zlefin wrote:On October 17 2016 02:11 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 02:09 Plansix wrote:On October 17 2016 02:07 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 01:54 zlefin wrote:On October 17 2016 00:08 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 16 2016 23:58 zlefin wrote:
re: portugal
I'm sure they had lots of people like trump (also a total invitation to that Trevor Noah african leader skit); trump is simply far less useful than you think he is, and far more common.
Also not sure what kind of difference you think it would've made. I mean, someone that wants the well being of his own nationals first and wants to make america great again instead of being a corrupt leader like hillary that makes backdoor deals with other corrupt world leaders, that's what we have in Angola, i would like a nationalist there for a change. what i'm hearing is you have absolutely nothing but stuff that's not remotely true and no sense of reality. Trump is not an example of a low corruption person. All leaders favor their own nationals and want to make their countries better. at least in decent places, I dunno about shitty places in africa. also the notion that america isn't already great; or that trump's proposal would help anything (especially considering how vague they are) I'm talking about the shitty place in Africa i came from, we could do well with more people like Trump at least the nationalist ideas and the well being of the country. That assumes we can take him at face value. But Trump is like used car salesmen, he will say anything to get what he wants. So he says he will make America great because that is what people want to hear. And if you look at his buisness history, he has no problem going back on the a deal if it won't work out for him. I believe that if he wins as egocentric as he is he will try to be the best president ever he won't settle for less, even with his lack of understanding of politics he can hire people to do the job for him. well, your name is ImFromPortugal, and you list oyur country as portugal, so I tend to assume you're from portugal.
I admit Trump might be an improvement from what you have in angola, but so would hillary, and probably most us politiicans; even the ones that are crappy by US standards would probably be good by Angola standards.
nationalism isn't really super succcessful, it's more about good governance in general. And having leaders who want the country to be better (even with many different opinions about what that should be). She is corrupt and is not willing to change we already have lots of politicians like that in Africa, she makes deals with corrupt governments and oligarchies, we have that in Africa as well, not a big improvement.. if she was african instead of those millions she made with the speeches she would have billions. you're a poor judge of levels of corruption if you think trump is any less corrupt; and if you think Hillary is at african levels of corruption. Show nested quote +The kingdom of Saudi Arabia donated more than $10 million. Through a foundation, so did the son-in-law of a former Ukrainian president whose government was widely criticized for corruption and the murder of journalists. A Lebanese-Nigerian developer with vast business interests contributed as much as $5 million. - Receives donations from dictators - check - Receives money from shady African billionaires - check - Uses shady practices to surpass political opponents - check http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-charity.html Show nested quote +That's right. You think Africa needs more leaders like Trump that will jail their political opponents, silence the press, stuff their own pockets via corruption and sow discord in their communities. I said Africa needs more nationalists that want the best for the country.
Yeah, we aren't into that shit over here in the US. We don't like it when people silence the press, jail their political opponents in the name of what is best for the country. Our country was created with the to to prevent that from happening.
On October 17 2016 02:25 CobaltBlu wrote:
I don't think Americans know what a truly corrupt country is like.
Americans lack context for how shitty things can get? You don't say?
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On October 17 2016 02:27 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 02:24 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 02:17 zlefin wrote:On October 17 2016 02:11 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 02:09 Plansix wrote:On October 17 2016 02:07 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 01:54 zlefin wrote:On October 17 2016 00:08 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 16 2016 23:58 zlefin wrote:
re: portugal
I'm sure they had lots of people like trump (also a total invitation to that Trevor Noah african leader skit); trump is simply far less useful than you think he is, and far more common.
Also not sure what kind of difference you think it would've made. I mean, someone that wants the well being of his own nationals first and wants to make america great again instead of being a corrupt leader like hillary that makes backdoor deals with other corrupt world leaders, that's what we have in Angola, i would like a nationalist there for a change. what i'm hearing is you have absolutely nothing but stuff that's not remotely true and no sense of reality. Trump is not an example of a low corruption person. All leaders favor their own nationals and want to make their countries better. at least in decent places, I dunno about shitty places in africa. also the notion that america isn't already great; or that trump's proposal would help anything (especially considering how vague they are) I'm talking about the shitty place in Africa i came from, we could do well with more people like Trump at least the nationalist ideas and the well being of the country. That assumes we can take him at face value. But Trump is like used car salesmen, he will say anything to get what he wants. So he says he will make America great because that is what people want to hear. And if you look at his buisness history, he has no problem going back on the a deal if it won't work out for him. I believe that if he wins as egocentric as he is he will try to be the best president ever he won't settle for less, even with his lack of understanding of politics he can hire people to do the job for him. well, your name is ImFromPortugal, and you list oyur country as portugal, so I tend to assume you're from portugal.
I admit Trump might be an improvement from what you have in angola, but so would hillary, and probably most us politiicans; even the ones that are crappy by US standards would probably be good by Angola standards.
nationalism isn't really super succcessful, it's more about good governance in general. And having leaders who want the country to be better (even with many different opinions about what that should be). She is corrupt and is not willing to change we already have lots of politicians like that in Africa, she makes deals with corrupt governments and oligarchies, we have that in Africa as well, not a big improvement.. if she was african instead of those millions she made with the speeches she would have billions. you're a poor judge of levels of corruption if you think trump is any less corrupt; and if you think Hillary is at african levels of corruption. The kingdom of Saudi Arabia donated more than $10 million. Through a foundation, so did the son-in-law of a former Ukrainian president whose government was widely criticized for corruption and the murder of journalists. A Lebanese-Nigerian developer with vast business interests contributed as much as $5 million. - Receives donations from dictators - check - Receives money from shady African billionaires - check - Uses shady practices to surpass political opponents - check http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-charity.html That's right. You think Africa needs more leaders like Trump that will jail their political opponents, silence the press, stuff their own pockets via corruption and sow discord in their communities. I said Africa needs more nationalists that want the best for the country. Yeah, we aren't into that shit over here in the US. We don't like it when people silence the press, jail their political opponents in the name of what is best for the country. Our country was created with the to to prevent that from happening.
So who did Trump jail so far ?
I was talking about the aspects of wanting the best for the country but if you want to debate something i didn't even said go ahead.
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On October 17 2016 02:11 ImFromPortugal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 02:09 Plansix wrote:On October 17 2016 02:07 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 01:54 zlefin wrote:On October 17 2016 00:08 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 16 2016 23:58 zlefin wrote:
re: portugal
I'm sure they had lots of people like trump (also a total invitation to that Trevor Noah african leader skit); trump is simply far less useful than you think he is, and far more common.
Also not sure what kind of difference you think it would've made. I mean, someone that wants the well being of his own nationals first and wants to make america great again instead of being a corrupt leader like hillary that makes backdoor deals with other corrupt world leaders, that's what we have in Angola, i would like a nationalist there for a change. what i'm hearing is you have absolutely nothing but stuff that's not remotely true and no sense of reality. Trump is not an example of a low corruption person. All leaders favor their own nationals and want to make their countries better. at least in decent places, I dunno about shitty places in africa. also the notion that america isn't already great; or that trump's proposal would help anything (especially considering how vague they are) I'm talking about the shitty place in Africa i came from, we could do well with more people like Trump at least the nationalist ideas and the well being of the country. That assumes we can take him at face value. But Trump is like used car salesmen, he will say anything to get what he wants. So he says he will make America great because that is what people want to hear. And if you look at his buisness history, he has no problem going back on the a deal if it won't work out for him. I believe that if he wins as egocentric as he is he will try to be the best president ever he won't settle for less, even with his lack of understanding of politics he can hire people to do the job for him.
Like he hired competent people to run his campaign?
Bullshit
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It should be clear by now that ImFromPortugal has no interest in actually delving into Trump's proposed plans; he's comfortable taking Trump's words at face value while many of us are not. I doubt much more will come of this exchange lol
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I think if 'hiring the best people' was all it took to be an amazing president then there would be no shit presidents
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On October 17 2016 02:29 ImFromPortugal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 02:27 Plansix wrote:On October 17 2016 02:24 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 02:17 zlefin wrote:On October 17 2016 02:11 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 02:09 Plansix wrote:On October 17 2016 02:07 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 01:54 zlefin wrote:On October 17 2016 00:08 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 16 2016 23:58 zlefin wrote:
re: portugal
I'm sure they had lots of people like trump (also a total invitation to that Trevor Noah african leader skit); trump is simply far less useful than you think he is, and far more common.
Also not sure what kind of difference you think it would've made. I mean, someone that wants the well being of his own nationals first and wants to make america great again instead of being a corrupt leader like hillary that makes backdoor deals with other corrupt world leaders, that's what we have in Angola, i would like a nationalist there for a change. what i'm hearing is you have absolutely nothing but stuff that's not remotely true and no sense of reality. Trump is not an example of a low corruption person. All leaders favor their own nationals and want to make their countries better. at least in decent places, I dunno about shitty places in africa. also the notion that america isn't already great; or that trump's proposal would help anything (especially considering how vague they are) I'm talking about the shitty place in Africa i came from, we could do well with more people like Trump at least the nationalist ideas and the well being of the country. That assumes we can take him at face value. But Trump is like used car salesmen, he will say anything to get what he wants. So he says he will make America great because that is what people want to hear. And if you look at his buisness history, he has no problem going back on the a deal if it won't work out for him. I believe that if he wins as egocentric as he is he will try to be the best president ever he won't settle for less, even with his lack of understanding of politics he can hire people to do the job for him. well, your name is ImFromPortugal, and you list oyur country as portugal, so I tend to assume you're from portugal.
I admit Trump might be an improvement from what you have in angola, but so would hillary, and probably most us politiicans; even the ones that are crappy by US standards would probably be good by Angola standards.
nationalism isn't really super succcessful, it's more about good governance in general. And having leaders who want the country to be better (even with many different opinions about what that should be). She is corrupt and is not willing to change we already have lots of politicians like that in Africa, she makes deals with corrupt governments and oligarchies, we have that in Africa as well, not a big improvement.. if she was african instead of those millions she made with the speeches she would have billions. you're a poor judge of levels of corruption if you think trump is any less corrupt; and if you think Hillary is at african levels of corruption. The kingdom of Saudi Arabia donated more than $10 million. Through a foundation, so did the son-in-law of a former Ukrainian president whose government was widely criticized for corruption and the murder of journalists. A Lebanese-Nigerian developer with vast business interests contributed as much as $5 million. - Receives donations from dictators - check - Receives money from shady African billionaires - check - Uses shady practices to surpass political opponents - check http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-charity.html That's right. You think Africa needs more leaders like Trump that will jail their political opponents, silence the press, stuff their own pockets via corruption and sow discord in their communities. I said Africa needs more nationalists that want the best for the country. Yeah, we aren't into that shit over here in the US. We don't like it when people silence the press, jail their political opponents in the name of what is best for the country. Our country was created with the to to prevent that from happening. So who did Trump jail so far ? I was talking about the aspects of wanting the best for the country but if you want to debate something i didn't even said go ahead.
He has talked pushing to have Clinton charged, after the FBI already said they did not believe criminal activity too place. He plans to file a lawsuit against the Times and People for printing stories about him he doesn't like.
You claimed he wants what is best, but he is currently promoting things that are deeply unamerican and counter to a representative democracy.
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On October 17 2016 02:18 CobaltBlu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 02:07 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 01:54 zlefin wrote:On October 17 2016 00:08 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 16 2016 23:58 zlefin wrote:
re: portugal
I'm sure they had lots of people like trump (also a total invitation to that Trevor Noah african leader skit); trump is simply far less useful than you think he is, and far more common.
Also not sure what kind of difference you think it would've made. I mean, someone that wants the well being of his own nationals first and wants to make america great again instead of being a corrupt leader like hillary that makes backdoor deals with other corrupt world leaders, that's what we have in Angola, i would like a nationalist there for a change. what i'm hearing is you have absolutely nothing but stuff that's not remotely true and no sense of reality. Trump is not an example of a low corruption person. All leaders favor their own nationals and want to make their countries better. at least in decent places, I dunno about shitty places in africa. also the notion that america isn't already great; or that trump's proposal would help anything (especially considering how vague they are) I'm talking about the shitty place in Africa i came from (Angola) if you don't know the country you can check the wikipedia link if you feel like learning about shitty places https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angola . We could do well with more people like Trump in Africa at least the nationalist ideas and the well being of the country. That's right. You think Africa needs more leaders like Trump that will jail their political opponents, silence the press, stuff their own pockets via corruption and sow discord in their communities.
Yes Trump want to silence the press, only the lying ones.
Lots of press are click baits or would misrepresents facts.
I think the world will be a much better place if we got rid of those.
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On October 17 2016 02:34 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 02:18 CobaltBlu wrote:On October 17 2016 02:07 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 01:54 zlefin wrote:On October 17 2016 00:08 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 16 2016 23:58 zlefin wrote:
re: portugal
I'm sure they had lots of people like trump (also a total invitation to that Trevor Noah african leader skit); trump is simply far less useful than you think he is, and far more common.
Also not sure what kind of difference you think it would've made. I mean, someone that wants the well being of his own nationals first and wants to make america great again instead of being a corrupt leader like hillary that makes backdoor deals with other corrupt world leaders, that's what we have in Angola, i would like a nationalist there for a change. what i'm hearing is you have absolutely nothing but stuff that's not remotely true and no sense of reality. Trump is not an example of a low corruption person. All leaders favor their own nationals and want to make their countries better. at least in decent places, I dunno about shitty places in africa. also the notion that america isn't already great; or that trump's proposal would help anything (especially considering how vague they are) I'm talking about the shitty place in Africa i came from (Angola) if you don't know the country you can check the wikipedia link if you feel like learning about shitty places https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angola . We could do well with more people like Trump in Africa at least the nationalist ideas and the well being of the country. That's right. You think Africa needs more leaders like Trump that will jail their political opponents, silence the press, stuff their own pockets via corruption and sow discord in their communities. Yes Trump want to silence the press, only the lying ones. Lots of press are click baits or would misrepresents facts. I think the world will be a much better place if we got rid of those.
So he is anti-freedom of the press and freedom of expression. Glad we cleared that up.
Edit: the man is attacking the New York Times, one of the oldest publications in the country over a century of quality reporting. This is just an attack on the press reporting the news.
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On October 17 2016 02:34 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 02:18 CobaltBlu wrote:On October 17 2016 02:07 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 17 2016 01:54 zlefin wrote:On October 17 2016 00:08 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 16 2016 23:58 zlefin wrote:
re: portugal
I'm sure they had lots of people like trump (also a total invitation to that Trevor Noah african leader skit); trump is simply far less useful than you think he is, and far more common.
Also not sure what kind of difference you think it would've made. I mean, someone that wants the well being of his own nationals first and wants to make america great again instead of being a corrupt leader like hillary that makes backdoor deals with other corrupt world leaders, that's what we have in Angola, i would like a nationalist there for a change. what i'm hearing is you have absolutely nothing but stuff that's not remotely true and no sense of reality. Trump is not an example of a low corruption person. All leaders favor their own nationals and want to make their countries better. at least in decent places, I dunno about shitty places in africa. also the notion that america isn't already great; or that trump's proposal would help anything (especially considering how vague they are) I'm talking about the shitty place in Africa i came from (Angola) if you don't know the country you can check the wikipedia link if you feel like learning about shitty places https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angola . We could do well with more people like Trump in Africa at least the nationalist ideas and the well being of the country. That's right. You think Africa needs more leaders like Trump that will jail their political opponents, silence the press, stuff their own pockets via corruption and sow discord in their communities. Yes Trump want to silence the press, only the lying ones. Lots of press are click baits or would misrepresents facts. I think the world will be a much better place if we got rid of those.
which ones are lying? how do you tell whether they're lying?
Also, Trump himself is a clickbaiter who misrepresents facts more than anyone. Will he silence himself?
It's not that the world would'nt be nice without the bad press; it's that it's hard to tell which is good and bad, there's a lot of disagreement. Also, trump is supporting the bad press more than the good press anyways. Trump is not actually trying to make a high quality truthful press, but the opposite.
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It would be great to see one of these out of control papers go the way of Gawker.
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