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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
October 06 2016 22:19 GMT
#107181
If the US wants to get rid of Assad I'd like to hear what their follow-up plan is. Until they have that I will assume the US strategy is full of hot air. That no one has provided a feasible "day after" plan for the ousting of Assad makes me think there isn't one.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-06 22:44:30
October 06 2016 22:44 GMT
#107182
I think it's going to be a pretty ironic if Russia keeps pushing intervention in the Middle East and becomes a priority target of ISIS over us.

Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
October 06 2016 22:46 GMT
#107183
Doesn't Russia have their own reasons to fight terrorist groups in the region? A large part of their heroin problem is because the terrorist groups flood it into Russia correct?
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
October 06 2016 22:47 GMT
#107184
Please tell me he got hacked or something:

GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-06 22:52:28
October 06 2016 22:50 GMT
#107185
On October 07 2016 07:47 Saryph wrote:
Please tell me he got hacked or something:

https://twitter.com/DRUDGE/status/784121449606852608


This is pretty stupid

This shit happens every year in Florida it's hurricane season.

I haven't heard anyone claim 'man-made' climate change is causing more and bigger hurricanes
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9169 Posts
October 06 2016 22:51 GMT
#107186
On October 07 2016 07:46 Kickstart wrote:
Doesn't Russia have their own reasons to fight terrorist groups in the region? A large part of their heroin problem is because the terrorist groups flood it into Russia correct?


Lots of Chechens left Russia to help ISIS in Syria.
You're now breathing manually
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 06 2016 22:58 GMT
#107187
On October 07 2016 07:47 Saryph wrote:
Please tell me he got hacked or something:

https://twitter.com/DRUDGE/status/784121449606852608


Looks like a variant on "many people are saying" .
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 06 2016 23:06 GMT
#107188
On October 07 2016 07:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 07:47 Saryph wrote:
Please tell me he got hacked or something:

https://twitter.com/DRUDGE/status/784121449606852608


This is pretty stupid

This shit happens every year in Florida it's hurricane season.

I haven't heard anyone claim 'man-made' climate change is causing more and bigger hurricanes

i don't recall the points about it; iirc they believe the climate change is going to cause more and bigger hurricanes on average, though obviously it says little about any individual case. not sure if the effects of that have hit yet, or if it's just estimates on the future.

not entirely sure what your other remarks are about, don't entirely understand what the drudge nonsense is, so just ignoring that issue.

Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
October 06 2016 23:11 GMT
#107189
On October 07 2016 08:06 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 07:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 07 2016 07:47 Saryph wrote:
Please tell me he got hacked or something:

https://twitter.com/DRUDGE/status/784121449606852608


This is pretty stupid

This shit happens every year in Florida it's hurricane season.

I haven't heard anyone claim 'man-made' climate change is causing more and bigger hurricanes

i don't recall the points about it; iirc they believe the climate change is going to cause more and bigger hurricanes on average, though obviously it says little about any individual case. not sure if the effects of that have hit yet, or if it's just estimates on the future.

not entirely sure what your other remarks are about, don't entirely understand what the drudge nonsense is, so just ignoring that issue.


A guy whose website gets a billion views a month is saying that the government is conspiring to exaggerate the strength of a natural disaster to make people think climate change is real. Hopefully no one will buy into it and not evacuate.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 06 2016 23:17 GMT
#107190
On October 07 2016 08:11 Saryph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 08:06 zlefin wrote:
On October 07 2016 07:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 07 2016 07:47 Saryph wrote:
Please tell me he got hacked or something:

https://twitter.com/DRUDGE/status/784121449606852608


This is pretty stupid

This shit happens every year in Florida it's hurricane season.

I haven't heard anyone claim 'man-made' climate change is causing more and bigger hurricanes

i don't recall the points about it; iirc they believe the climate change is going to cause more and bigger hurricanes on average, though obviously it says little about any individual case. not sure if the effects of that have hit yet, or if it's just estimates on the future.

not entirely sure what your other remarks are about, don't entirely understand what the drudge nonsense is, so just ignoring that issue.


A guy whose website gets a billion views a month is saying that the government is conspiring to exaggerate the strength of a natural disaster to make people think climate change is real. Hopefully no one will buy into it and not evacuate.

In the US, we are cornering the market on producing citizens that don't believe in science.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-06 23:38:38
October 06 2016 23:36 GMT
#107191
I think the staunch individualism ingrained in the older generations is partly to blame for that. There is this myth out there that your personal opinion is just as valid a position as anyone else's, no matter if they are more knowledgeable on the subject matter or not. Similarly, this is also why on social issues the older generations tend to hold the views they do while millennials and younger prefer a more communal outlook than an individualist one, so they tend to be very progressive on social issues.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42495 Posts
October 06 2016 23:40 GMT
#107192
There are some extremely high quality "Obama is soft on terrorists, we need a stone cold killer like Putin to put fear in their hearts" memes out there. They claim that Putin had a captured terrorist dismembered in the 90s and no Muslim has attacked since. I guess Beslan and the Moscow Theatre attacks didn't happen in the minds of the Putin worshipping right. Although he does get a lot of "don't give a fuck, will not negotiate with terrorists" cred for the way he filled the theatre with poison gas, killed all the hostages before the terrorists could and then ordered special forces to assault. He took away all their leverage so they couldn't threaten anyone and could only die. But even so, I think I'll stick with weak Obama.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
October 06 2016 23:42 GMT
#107193
The Obama administration has taken out quite a lot of terrorists, they just don't happen to make a giant spectacle out of it.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9112 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-06 23:48:49
October 06 2016 23:46 GMT
#107194
A statewide prayer initiative focusing on the oil fields and beleaguered energy industry will culminate Oct. 13 with an annual breakfast in downtown Oklahoma City.

The Rev. Tom Beddow of Ada, coordinator of the Baptist General Convention of Oklahoma's Oil Patch Chaplains ministry, said he would like to see similar gatherings around the state as people pray for individuals affected by current economic woes, with the energy industry at the center.

“The oil field is hurting right now,” he said.

“We're asking churches all over Oklahoma to open their doors, put on a pot of coffee and pray for the oil field, and not only for the oil field but the state, because the economy of our state is so connected to the oil field.”

Jeff Hubbard, with Oilfield Christian Fellowship- Oklahoma City, agreed.

“We have a saying: The oil field trickles down to everyone,” he said.

Hubbard said Gov. Mary Fallin has proclaimed Oct. 13 as Oilfield Prayer Day to raise awareness about the initiative.


http://newsok.com/article/5520409

This is not satire

https://www.sos.ok.gov/documents/proclamations/40070.pdf
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 06 2016 23:54 GMT
#107195
Every time someone say the Democrats are going to the right, I think "fuck if we can get the Republicans somewhere close to the center, I'll take it." Fucking look at that shit.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-07 01:02:26
October 07 2016 01:01 GMT
#107196
Christians praying for the oil and gas industry is so out there that satirists would be accused of being lazy if they'd make it up. What is happening to evangelical America
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 07 2016 01:07 GMT
#107197
On October 07 2016 10:01 Nyxisto wrote:
Christians praying for the oil and gas industry is so out there that satirists would be accused of being lazy if they'd make it up. What is happening to evangelical America


James Fifield Jr. did a lot of damage to this country.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13859 Posts
October 07 2016 01:14 GMT
#107198
On October 07 2016 08:54 Plansix wrote:
Every time someone say the Democrats are going to the right, I think "fuck if we can get the Republicans somewhere close to the center, I'll take it." Fucking look at that shit.

I honestly blame the democrats shifting more and more to the right for the GOP's problems. The dems are appealing more and more to moderate and liberal conservatives while leaving the gop nothing but the crazies left to vote for them.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
October 07 2016 01:17 GMT
#107199
On October 07 2016 10:14 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 08:54 Plansix wrote:
Every time someone say the Democrats are going to the right, I think "fuck if we can get the Republicans somewhere close to the center, I'll take it." Fucking look at that shit.

I honestly blame the democrats shifting more and more to the right for the GOP's problems. The dems are appealing more and more to moderate and liberal conservatives while leaving the gop nothing but the crazies left to vote for them.


stupid sexy democrats!
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 07 2016 01:22 GMT
#107200
On October 07 2016 10:14 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 08:54 Plansix wrote:
Every time someone say the Democrats are going to the right, I think "fuck if we can get the Republicans somewhere close to the center, I'll take it." Fucking look at that shit.

I honestly blame the democrats shifting more and more to the right for the GOP's problems. The dems are appealing more and more to moderate and liberal conservatives while leaving the gop nothing but the crazies left to vote for them.

seems like an odd thing to blame someone for.
shoudln't the GOP be able to do a better job of appealing to conservatives than the liberal party?

also, talking about liberal conservatives sounds rather odd for american parlance.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
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