EPTUS Politics Mega-thread - Page 5329
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:41 TheTenthDoc wrote: In theory there's literally no way for the president to do that-he doesn't have the executive authority. If the national legislature did grant him the authority and he tried to do it, the states could sue like they did regarding the Affordable Care Act. I wasn't really speaking if he can do it himself, more if he can ask the state to do some policy, not force them to do it, just ask them like in a speech and expect a response for the governor. More of a influence, legitimate power-balance thing. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:44 OuchyDathurts wrote: I'm pretty sure ICE can't endorse anything Their union can, which is not the same thing. Don't let that get in the way of the sound bite Pence. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
I don't know, I think I'd prefer either one over the top of their respective ticket any day. | ||
KwarK
United States42638 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23217 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:42 Kickstart wrote: Frankly neither party has done enough to change it. You are right to be upset with the left though, because traditionally it would be a liberal principle to push to remove such loopholes. I don't think anyone is claiming that anyone just now found out that these things happen. Like I said though, the left hasn't just sat on their hands, they've actively made it worse. If they aren't just finding it out, than why should anyone believe they are actually upset and not just pointing out the bad optics of something they helped create without taking any responsibility? | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:46 KwarK wrote: Kaine isn't even trying to do anything but remind people of what an asshole Trump is. I think it's an ok strategy. God knows neither of these two are shining examples of charisma | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:45 ACrow wrote: I don't know, I think I'd prefer either one over the top of their respective ticket any day. It's easy to pick unknown candidates over unpopular ones. But they would both suck. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
Kaine doesn't have the charisma of Pence, and his interrupting looks bad. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15681 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:46 KwarK wrote: Kaine isn't even trying to do anything but remind people of what an asshole Trump is. He had a good mini speech about Clinton apologizing imo | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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KwarK
United States42638 Posts
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KwarK
United States42638 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:48 Slaughter wrote: Is Kaine's job just to try to bring up some of Trump's crazier stuff over and over again? looks that way Why attack Pence when it's so much more interesting to force him to defend Trump. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23217 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:43 plasmidghost wrote: I like how both candidates added absolutely nothing of value to the topic of race and policing No one thinks Kaine is bringing any support Hillary's way from BLM or their supporters, Kaine has to be the "don't worry white America, we won't let them get in charge again" guy. Also one reason why you won't here any critique on absurd religious stuff from Pence come from Kaine. | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:48 OuchyDathurts wrote: At the end of the day this debate is pointless because not a soul on earth is going to change their vote because of the VPs. Palin? | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
pence has worse material to work with having to cover trump, but he's doing a better job overall. nothing of real use on policy. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:47 GreenHorizons wrote: Like I said though, the left hasn't just sat on their hands, they've actively made it worse. If they aren't just finding it out, than why should anyone believe they are actually upset and not just pointing out the bad optics of something they helped create without taking any responsibility? You're conflating voters with politicians, and an arbitrary ideological group with a political party. It's dumb, please stop. | ||
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