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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:35 Mohdoo wrote: Just got home. Anything good so far? How are they each doing? I think both sides are happy with their guy thus far. Except for Kaine's constant interrupting, which looks terrible for him. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:34 xDaunt wrote: It's a politicized issue that both parties make hay from. Doesn't make it any less stupid. agreed; there's very little federal involvement, so little to be done there. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:35 Mohdoo wrote: Just got home. Anything good so far? How are they each doing? Lmao this was the first thing I heard when I tuned in. Who in the fuck are you trying to get to vote for you by saying that? Why go on the offensive like that? Moderator Bias! | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:33 Introvert wrote: One of the most frustrating thing is that the GOP never points this out. Neither Trump nor Pence now. I expect it from Democrats. States' rights are dead on the national stage pretty much for better or for worse. Too much nuance involved in the idea for it to be discussed in the current climate. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:36 Kickstart wrote: I think both sides are happy with their guy thus far. Except for Kaine's constant interrupting, which looks terrible for him. Pence started doing it too now lol. Pence selling this "everyone hating on the poor poor police" crap, not a word about the other side just "but our police tho". | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
More like moderator incompetence. Don't let them interrupt like that. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States22736 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:31 Kickstart wrote: That not paying taxes makes him smart. That his losses (potentially, since we don't know without him releasing his tax info) allow him to not pay taxes for several years to come. That he lost nearly $1B in the casino industry. Of course his supporters will explain how it was all legal and how it is for businesses to incur loses and continue to operate. My father owned his own business, at one point it was the 3rd largest residential roofing company in our state. He then did a job for a large hotel chain, who, like Trump, didn't pay any of the people they contracted work out to. After they strung him along to complete the job and got all the work out of him, he got nothing. Point being, what is 'legal' and what is morally correct are not always the same. My question is do people think Democrats just found out about this now? They didn't care when he did it, just when he was in the way of them being in the white house. This type of stuff has actually gotten worse under Obama. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/tax-advantages-landlords-married-real-estate-professionals.html | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9489 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8988 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:32 xDaunt wrote: I'm not even sure why they're asking about law enforcement. It's not a federal issue. As a non American, if a president present a certain general policy even if it is not supported by law, like "we need more community policing" is it generally follow by the states or at least the states that are governs by his party? Or does the state feel independent enough to just do whatever they want? | ||
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States22736 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:36 Saryph wrote: Did Pence really just say that there is no way african-american police officers could have bias against african-americans? This logic has been seen here multiple times. I think it may have finally gotten through to most everyone though. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:40 Nakajin wrote: As a non American, if a president present a certain general policy even if it is not supported by law, like "we need more community policing" is it generally follow by the states or at least the states that are governs by his party? Or does the state feel independent enough to just whatever they want? In theory there's literally no way for the president to do that-he doesn't have the executive authority. If the national legislature did grant him the authority and he tried to do it, the states could sue like they did regarding the Affordable Care Act. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:38 Stratos_speAr wrote: The only thing I've gained from this is that there's a reason both of these men aren't at the top of the ticket. They shouldn't be on the ticket at all. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:39 GreenHorizons wrote: My question is do people think Democrats just found out about this now? They didn't care when he did it, just when he was in the way of them being in the white house. This type of stuff has actually gotten worse under Obama. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/tax-advantages-landlords-married-real-estate-professionals.html Frankly neither party has done enough to change it. You are right to be upset with the left though, because traditionally it would be a liberal principle to push to remove such loopholes. I don't think anyone is claiming that anyone just now found out that these things happen. | ||
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Netscape9
United States139 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On October 05 2016 10:40 Nakajin wrote: As a non American, if a president present a certain general policy even if it is not supported by law, like "we need more community policing" is it generally follow by the states or at least the states that are governs by his party? Or does the state feel independent enough to just do whatever they want? By Constitutional law, general policing is left to the states. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
oh my god Kaine, shut up when it's not your time... why is he throwing this away when he looks so much better on issues. No need to interrupt like that | ||
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