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On October 05 2016 09:44 TheTenthDoc wrote: I don't think you need to wait for legit news orgs to decide the information is worth reporting. Just wait until psycho far right orgs report the information isn't worth reporting.
Which as far as I can tell is the current consensus among those groups (Daily Caller too). Even moreso than other past leaks which by this point had already had the worst parts picked out.
When r/the_donald has concluded this is a false flag and Guccifer 2 has been compromised, you can be sure there's nothing incriminating in there.
Excellent, we're moving along at almost Mook like speed.
Next comes "compare it to Trump!" and "Russia is destroying our democracy".
I'm sorry you didn't get an Assange or Guccifer present today GH. But these are not the droids you're looking for-and operating under the assumption they are when none of the smoking guns have materialized in any of the previous leaks is just silly.
There were smoking guns, but the goalposts shifted from things like "The DNC was fair and impartial, you all are a bunch of conspiracy kooks suggesting they put their thumb on the scale" to "of course they put their thumb on the scale for Hillary, Bernie was a jerk!"
Or the ever evolving email story, or the DNC not having financial info hacked, etc...
EDIT: Democrats supporting Hillary have proudly taken the position that lying, cheating, and profiteering are acceptable components to the party and it's flag bearer. That's fine, but pretending like that's where we started over a year ago is absurd.
I never shifted goalposts, and a lot of other people didn't shift either; i'm sure some did. but mostly you're just looking at different people saying different things at different times. rather than the same people shifting what they say.
On October 05 2016 10:03 Plansix wrote: The DNC has never been fair and impartial. Ever. They are a political party who's sole purpose is to get their people elected.
The contention is the idea that Hillary Clinton is one of "their people" and Bernie Sanders isn't, and that they can act accordingly. That is a bad bit of favoritism and DWS was rightfully panned for that.
On October 05 2016 10:14 Toadesstern wrote: I'd say Kaine is going too hard for the attack right now. Just have the first 5 minutes to look like a nice guy and go after him after that.
Yeah way too much interrupting, Pence comes through as calmer
On October 05 2016 10:03 Plansix wrote: The DNC has never been fair and impartial. Ever. They are a political party who's sole purpose is to get their people elected.
The contention is the idea that Hillary Clinton is one of "their people" and Bernie Sanders isn't, and that they can act accordingly. That is a bad bit of favoritism and DWS was rightfully panned for that.
That's what's so great. DWS gets canned at the convention because obviously the idea that "the DNC has never been impartial" was not something the DNC (or many Hillary supporters) would have ever admitted (not to mention a lot of people pshhd the idea that they might not be following their own rules) and Hillary supporters have to explain away her getting canned for it and getting endorsed by Hillary at the same time.
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