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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 29 2016 23:31 GMT
#105241
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/politics/donald-trump-debate-chris-christie/

Some of Donald Trump's advisers are discussing an overhaul in how he prepares for his second face-off with Hillary Clinton, and one option being floated internally is asking Chris Christie to take a leading role to get the Republican nominee ready.

The New Jersey governor, a long-time friend of Trump's, is one of "the few" in the billionaire's inner circle who has always been straight with him, and was "brutally honest" about his shortcomings after this week's debate, according to a source familiar with the discussions.


Like, for real? No one else would fall on the sword?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 29 2016 23:37 GMT
#105242
On September 30 2016 08:31 Plansix wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/politics/donald-trump-debate-chris-christie/

Show nested quote +
Some of Donald Trump's advisers are discussing an overhaul in how he prepares for his second face-off with Hillary Clinton, and one option being floated internally is asking Chris Christie to take a leading role to get the Republican nominee ready.

The New Jersey governor, a long-time friend of Trump's, is one of "the few" in the billionaire's inner circle who has always been straight with him, and was "brutally honest" about his shortcomings after this week's debate, according to a source familiar with the discussions.


Like, for real? No one else would fall on the sword?


No you don't understand. It's because Chris Christie is too willing to fall on the sword. Fall on Donald's sword. If you get what I mean.

*wink wink*
Yargh
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
September 29 2016 23:47 GMT
#105243
On September 30 2016 08:37 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2016 08:31 Plansix wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/politics/donald-trump-debate-chris-christie/

Some of Donald Trump's advisers are discussing an overhaul in how he prepares for his second face-off with Hillary Clinton, and one option being floated internally is asking Chris Christie to take a leading role to get the Republican nominee ready.

The New Jersey governor, a long-time friend of Trump's, is one of "the few" in the billionaire's inner circle who has always been straight with him, and was "brutally honest" about his shortcomings after this week's debate, according to a source familiar with the discussions.


Like, for real? No one else would fall on the sword?


No you don't understand. It's because Chris Christie is too willing to fall on the sword. Fall on Donald's sword. If you get what I mean.

*wink wink*


I heard it's really short, really more of a dagger.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 29 2016 23:49 GMT
#105244
On September 30 2016 08:47 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2016 08:37 JinDesu wrote:
On September 30 2016 08:31 Plansix wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/politics/donald-trump-debate-chris-christie/

Some of Donald Trump's advisers are discussing an overhaul in how he prepares for his second face-off with Hillary Clinton, and one option being floated internally is asking Chris Christie to take a leading role to get the Republican nominee ready.

The New Jersey governor, a long-time friend of Trump's, is one of "the few" in the billionaire's inner circle who has always been straight with him, and was "brutally honest" about his shortcomings after this week's debate, according to a source familiar with the discussions.


Like, for real? No one else would fall on the sword?


No you don't understand. It's because Chris Christie is too willing to fall on the sword. Fall on Donald's sword. If you get what I mean.

*wink wink*


I heard it's really short, really more of a dagger.

Lawsuit.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 29 2016 23:54 GMT
#105245
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 30 2016 00:33 GMT
#105246
"Imagine what America could be if we were one country, under one God, saluting one flag."

- D. Trump, 9/29/16
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
September 30 2016 00:39 GMT
#105247
On September 30 2016 09:33 Doodsmack wrote:
"Imagine what America could be if we were one country, under one God, saluting one flag."

- D. Trump, 9/29/16


I never really liked the idea of state flags
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14203 Posts
September 30 2016 00:49 GMT
#105248
When I hear "white culture" I think of and feel that its a culture of appropriation. Not that its a bad thing its a great thing that was started with the Romans and continued with every state that came after trying to replicate their success.

But that success at the end of the day relied on appropriating everything from the people around them, and applying them with ideas from even other groups to make them better. Siege weapons created by greek mathematicians, chariots from British and arabic peoples (that got to have been changed into carts at some point I'm guessing), Iberian steel, Maniples from their local tribesmen. This tradition easily continues with the greatest western inventions of the gun being made western from the rifling and trigger mechanisms to the printing press also being Chinese but made western by printing a bible in a language that was practical for mass production.

Plus from my experiences in Minnesota There is as much difference between eastern and western african americans as there is between Germanic and latin Europeans.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-30 00:50:37
September 30 2016 00:49 GMT
#105249
Trump Foundation lacks the certification required for charities that solicit money

Donald Trump’s charitable foundation — which has been sustained for years by donors outside the Trump family — has never obtained the certification that New York requires before charities can solicit money from the public, according to the state attorney general’s office.

Under the laws in New York, where the Donald J. Trump Foundation is based, any charity that solicits more than $25,000 per year from the public must obtain a special kind of registration beforehand. Charities as large as Trump’s must also submit to a rigorous annual audit that asks — among other things — whether the charity spent any money for the personal benefit of its officers.

If New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman (D) finds that Trump’s foundation raised money in violation of the law, he could order the charity to stop raising money immediately. With a court’s permission, Schneiderman could also force Trump to return money his foundation has already raised.

The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment Thursday.


Source

"It makes me smart"
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-30 00:52:25
September 30 2016 00:51 GMT
#105250
Everyone but Donald Trump and his most ardent supporters recognize that Donald Trump lost Monday night’s debate. And because of the candidate’s stubborn disbelief in his ability to do anything but win, Trump lost the post-debate period too.

Now he’s doubling down.

Despite warnings from fellow Republicans against insulting a beauty queen he disparaged for gaining weight and launching an attack on Hillary Clinton for her husband’s well-known infidelities, Trump is now directing his surrogates to do just that.

“Mr. Trump has never treated women the way Hillary Clinton and her husband did when they worked to destroy Bill Clinton’s accusers,” reads one of the talking points the campaign sent to surrogates on Thursday as the controversy surrounding the story of former Miss Universe Alicia Machado continued to dominate headlines of the race.

And during a rally Thursday afternoon in Bedford, N.H., Trump himself referenced the scandals of the 1990s that he’s been congratulating himself for not talking about all week. “The Clintons are the sordid past,” he said. “We will be the very bright and clean future.”

For three days since Clinton’s dominant debate performance, Trump and his team have been flailing wildly to change the meta-narrative coming out of the showdown. And they have yet to alight on anything to effectively spin the result, challenge the conventional wisdom that Clinton won or to change the subject to anything less damaging for the GOP nominee.

Inside Trump Tower, his inner circle of advisers has been in turmoil: while some have attempted to reach to the hard-headed candidate by suggesting to reporters that he must prepare more thoroughly for the second debate, others have spit-balled ideas aimed at changing the subject, including a last-minute trip to Israel that might replicate the more presidential optics and media saturation coverage they achieved with last month’s surprise summit with the Mexican president.

Trump himself has reportedly chided aides who have privately acknowledged to reporters that Clinton bested him on the debate stage.

But that private uncertainty and unease about what was so clearly a disappointing performance has oozed into public view. Since the debate Monday night, surrogates and Trump himself have both praised and criticized the moderator, Lester Holt. One of Trump’s closest confidants at the moment, Rudy Giuliani, said immediately after the debate that he’d advise Trump to skip the next two and on Wednesday indulged a conspiracy, propagated by a Russian state-controlled news site, that Clinton might have gotten the questions in advance. And on Thursday, campaign manager Kellyanne Conway said she had indeed told her candidate not to call women “fat pigs” but quickly tried to dismiss his insults as “beside the point” because he in fact supports women.

“With Trump, it’s always the tyranny of the urgent and right now it is he has to have people believe he won, or that if he didn't it was rigged and unfair,” said Rick Tyler, a GOP operative who worked on Ted Cruz’s presidential campaign. “The purpose of having 84 million people watch is to get more people on his campaign; that's winning. In his mind, it's just about winning the debate. The objective is actually winning the election.”

Trump’s backers have been more consistent in their adherence to another fatuous talking point, stating that Trump deserved credit for being “gentlemanly” and even “courageous” for not bringing up the subject of Bill Clinton’s infidelities that they are themselves bringing up, increasingly in less uncertain, veiled terms.

And the candidate has compounded the damage by failing or refusing to recognize the damage done by his assertion that avoiding paying income taxes “makes me smart” and his repetition of comments about how a former Miss Universe “gained a massive amount of weight” after he awarded her crown was “a real problem.”

In reality, both Trump’s tacit references to the Lewinsky scandal and his explicit references to the Miss Universe story—something Clinton’s campaign used knowingly to bait Trump and has since pushed into the news cycle—are likely to prevent him from expanding support among undecided women voters, a bloc that may tip the balance of the election more than any other.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
September 30 2016 01:00 GMT
#105251
I love that all his followers are suddenly panicking because they are figuring out that he indeed has not been playing 7D-Yahtzee and is simply not able of introspection

I'd bet good money that the next debate is going to look exactly like the first one
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
September 30 2016 01:04 GMT
#105252
LMAO at Trump saying he is part of a bright and shining future the day a story breaks about how he broke the embargo in the 90s when the Clinton's were being all "sordid." I don't know what dimension the man lives in.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-30 01:16:36
September 30 2016 01:16 GMT
#105253
Scott Adams is somehow still insisting that Trump won the first debate on a "3d" level and that he seemed "presidential enough". I think during the primaries he had some interesting insights, but at this point he's clearly deluding himself if he thought an undecided voter saw Trump's debate and thought "presidential".

Really, even during the primaries Adam's arguments were only better for understanding why some of Trump's tactics were working. He never made a convincing argument that Trump was doing it intentionally, imo - it was always predicated on this strange notion that Trump was merely "acting" like a clown strategically and could pivot whenever he wanted.

It also sort of ties together in a weird way, I think Adams is underestimating just how poorly Trump came across to women - apparently the "ms piggy" thing really, really bothers them. It's no surprise that he somehow misses this- in some of his earliest Trump posts Adams says that he understands Trump because they're both "white men from upstate NY." He's a very good source for analyzing why Trump can effectively communicate with his base of white men, but tends to be blind to other groups' issues. I'd probably argue that he has probably hypnotized himself with how frequently he has argued that Trump will win, and is now conforming all evidence to fit that world view.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 30 2016 01:17 GMT
#105254
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 30 2016 01:19 GMT
#105255
It will be the ultimate of ironies if after all the hullabaloo about the Clinton Foundation, the Trump Foundation ends up being the charity project to bring down a presidential candidate.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 30 2016 01:23 GMT
#105256
Can we take some time to appreciate the generosity of Trump who, win or lose this presidential race, will be giving all of his fortune to the government by the end of the election cycle. Truly a great man.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 30 2016 01:25 GMT
#105257
The man is a con artist and he is clearly just stealing people's money.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 30 2016 01:26 GMT
#105258
Frankly, it's kind of disgusting that the american system let's a man get away with all the shit Trump has pulled until a concerted effort is actually made to look into his business dealings for political reasons (no one would be investigating half the things that have come out recently if he weren't running for president).
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 30 2016 01:31 GMT
#105259
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-30 01:44:07
September 30 2016 01:32 GMT
#105260
So the Turkish born guy who killed 5 last week in the Burlington mall, Wash state, voted in the primary despite not being a US citizen.
Do you guys think he voted for Clinton or Sanders?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-29/arcan-investigation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
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