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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 22 2016 21:34 GMT
#102101
On September 23 2016 06:30 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 06:28 Plansix wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:27 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:19 KwarK wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:13 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:06 KwarK wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:04 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
You are the racist, not me.

You're calling black people monkeys. I'm saying that calling black people monkeys and your conclusion is that I'm the racist because how could I possibly infer what you mean deep down in your soul just from the fact that you call black people monkeys, clearly I must be projecting. Welcome to 2016 people.


I'm calling people monkeys.

People who just happen to be black. But that's not in any way to do with it. How could anyone possibly infer anything from the fact that you call black people you look down on monkeys. Nobody knows what's in your heart and if we don't know what's in your heart then we can't possibly call you a racist because you're offended by that.


I don't know. Maybe watch the video and instead of looking at their skin color look at how they're behaving

'stupidly and deplorably' ought to be thoughts that come to mind

sort of like a monkey

I call stupid people monkeys all the time to myself. I don't get why this is such an issue all humans are evolved from monkeys why do 'blacks' get a monopoly on it?

“It’s not racist if you completely ignore the fact that they are black.”


LOL

I mean, do we just define racism differently?

Ignoring race and looking past skin colors at the humans behind them is supposed to be the antithesis to racism

Why is this suddenly a revolutionary idea?

Yes, if you just ignore the fact that they are black and that blacks have been called monkeys by racists for decades, you can totally think its not racist.

Basically, if you ignore black people and what they consider offensive or degrading, racism isn't real. You beat it. Congrats. Now you just need to convince all the black people being called monkeys to see it that way.
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 21:36:50
September 22 2016 21:36 GMT
#102102
On September 23 2016 06:30 Slaughter wrote:
The problem is that terms like monkey is rarely applied to white people, even when they are doing bad things.


So what about me? I've thought of more white people as 'fucking monkeys' thank blacks (the majority of people I'm around on a daily basis are whites so it makes sense)
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 21:36:29
September 22 2016 21:36 GMT
#102103
Maybe we should have an experiment. GGTemplar can call a white guy on the street a monkey for "doing something dumb". Then he call a black person that and we can compare the results.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12379 Posts
September 22 2016 21:37 GMT
#102104
On September 23 2016 06:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 06:30 Slaughter wrote:
The problem is that terms like monkey is rarely applied to white people, even when they are doing bad things.


So what about me? I've thought of more white people as 'fucking monkeys' thank blacks.


You might be surprised to learn that the way people speak around the world isn't generally based on what you think.
No will to live, no wish to die
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 21:38:07
September 22 2016 21:37 GMT
#102105
On September 23 2016 06:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Maybe we should have an experiment. GGTemplar can call a white guy on the street a monkey for "doing something dumb". Then he call a black person that and we can compare the results.


Oh I don't go around calling people on the street monkey that is just retarded.

On September 23 2016 06:37 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 06:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:30 Slaughter wrote:
The problem is that terms like monkey is rarely applied to white people, even when they are doing bad things.


So what about me? I've thought of more white people as 'fucking monkeys' thank blacks.


You might be surprised to learn that the way people speak around the world isn't generally based on what you think.


Nope not surprised at all. As I've said, I've come to learn I am very different than most people.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 22 2016 21:38 GMT
#102106
On September 23 2016 06:37 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 06:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Maybe we should have an experiment. GGTemplar can call a white guy on the street a monkey for "doing something dumb". Then he call a black person that and we can compare the results.


Oh I don't go around calling people on the street monkey that is just retarded.

"I don't do this clearly racist thing in real life, because fuck, that would be dangerous."
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 21:40:12
September 22 2016 21:38 GMT
#102107
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12379 Posts
September 22 2016 21:38 GMT
#102108
On September 23 2016 06:37 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 06:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Maybe we should have an experiment. GGTemplar can call a white guy on the street a monkey for "doing something dumb". Then he call a black person that and we can compare the results.


Oh I don't go around calling people on the street monkey that is just retarded.

Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 06:37 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:30 Slaughter wrote:
The problem is that terms like monkey is rarely applied to white people, even when they are doing bad things.


So what about me? I've thought of more white people as 'fucking monkeys' thank blacks.


You might be surprised to learn that the way people speak around the world isn't generally based on what you think.


Nope not surprised at all. As I've said, I've come to learn I am very different than most people.


So if you aren't surprised, why did you say "What about me?" as if it was surprising that the english language didn't stop to consider all of your particularities?
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 22 2016 21:38 GMT
#102109
On September 23 2016 06:19 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 06:06 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:00 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:58 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:55 Sermokala wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:54 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.


None of the liberals here brought up race. Your friend GG did. To be fair Plansix gets baited pretty easily and then it just rolled from there.

If you are going to accuse people of doing something get your facts in order.

People brought up race instantly saying that he wanted to call the rioters monkeys but couldn't beacuse then people would know hes a racist what are you talking about.

Yep. This situation is a good example of why I try to limit my interactions with people who fail at basic reading comprehension. It just isn't productive.


You must be so proud of your trolling here. You used the term 'vermin' specifically so that there would be a flame war on it. That's kind of childish for a smart guy, but hey, whatever.


What trolling? Who is going to disagree with the proposition that looters and rioters are vermin? I honestly don't give a fuck what race they are. I can't help it if you guys want to make the conversation about race instead of law and order. That's your prerogative, even if it means exposing some very ugly and unpleasant truths about some of your values.

At this point, I don't think any more exposure is necessary. The cesspool of values is on bright display.


Honestly, what I expected to catch some shit on was that there's a bit of a stink of advocating police brutality/excessive force in my original post. It didn't even occur to me that the rabid PC crowd would go all in on the bullshit "xDaunt is a racist" angle. I guess my expectations for this thread were a little high.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 21:41:30
September 22 2016 21:39 GMT
#102110
On September 23 2016 06:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 06:30 Slaughter wrote:
The problem is that terms like monkey is rarely applied to white people, even when they are doing bad things.


So what about me? I've thought of more white people as 'fucking monkeys' thank blacks.


Tbh a lot of your posts sound like a cliche. You think you get it and know better so you can throw words around "because I am not actually a racist, I use words differently!" but that is not the same as actually getting it.

Its the common thing of people thinking they are more exceptional then they actually are.
Never Knows Best.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22037 Posts
September 22 2016 21:41 GMT
#102111
On September 23 2016 06:38 Barrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 06:30 Danglars wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:25 Barrin wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:04 KwarK wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:01 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:00 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:58 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:55 Sermokala wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:54 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
[quote]

This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.


None of the liberals here brought up race. Your friend GG did. To be fair Plansix gets baited pretty easily and then it just rolled from there.

If you are going to accuse people of doing something get your facts in order.

People brought up race instantly saying that he wanted to call the rioters monkeys but couldn't beacuse then people would know hes a racist what are you talking about.

Yep. This situation is a good example of why I try to limit my interactions with people who fail at basic reading comprehension. It just isn't productive.


You must be so proud of your trolling here. You used the term 'vermin' specifically so that there would be a flame war on it. That's kind of childish for a smart guy, but hey, whatever.


Yeah at this point its not even subtle. Its just baiting and sitting quietly looking for a circle jerk to latch onto.

On September 23 2016 06:01 Plansix wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:59 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:54 KwarK wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.

You said BLM are vermin. I don't know if you're unaware what the B in BLM stands for. Perhaps you were referring to the Bureau of Land Management.

Actually, you know what, I'm done giving you the benefit of the doubt. You're a racist.


Finally.

Of all the things GH and I disagree one. This is our common ground. I'm just surprised it to everyone else so long to get here.


Frankly i would still be giving him the benefit of the doubt because he didnt specifically say BLM. But I suppose at this point you can say you know what he meant,.

No, he did specifically say it.

"mayors where BLM is wreaking havoc needs to grow a pair and clear the vermin out."
BLM were quite clearly the vermin being referred to there.

Indeed. There is quite a difference between saying those people are "acting like" vermin and literally calling them vermin. I'd say that's all the difference when it comes to dehumanizing.

And anyone complaining about safe spaces might want to re-read TL Commandment #1.

So when Hillary chose a basket of deplorables instead of their actions, that was when you also decided it was dehumanizing when she said it. The difference for me is if you excuse one group for their politics.

I would not exempt either.

But I'm a little undecided and somewhat uninformed on this, but I think this "deplorables" term is something they Trump & his supporters (half?) adopted for themselves*, a la "Les Miserables": a movie about the french revolution. *Trump played one of the songs from Les Miserables at one of his entrances recently.

I don't really know.

Deplorable is a term that applies to humans, it does not dehumanizing because it is addressing a human with a human term.
Unlike Monkey or Vermin.

(this is totally separate from whether you think deplorable is an acceptable term to use when talking to the supporters of your opponent).
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5816 Posts
September 22 2016 21:42 GMT
#102112
On September 23 2016 06:32 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 06:29 oBlade wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:28 Plansix wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:27 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:19 KwarK wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:13 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:06 KwarK wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:04 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
You are the racist, not me.

You're calling black people monkeys. I'm saying that calling black people monkeys and your conclusion is that I'm the racist because how could I possibly infer what you mean deep down in your soul just from the fact that you call black people monkeys, clearly I must be projecting. Welcome to 2016 people.


I'm calling people monkeys.

People who just happen to be black. But that's not in any way to do with it. How could anyone possibly infer anything from the fact that you call black people you look down on monkeys. Nobody knows what's in your heart and if we don't know what's in your heart then we can't possibly call you a racist because you're offended by that.


I don't know. Maybe watch the video and instead of looking at their skin color look at how they're behaving

'stupidly and deplorably' ought to be thoughts that come to mind

sort of like a monkey

I call stupid people monkeys all the time to myself. I don't get why this is such an issue all humans are evolved from monkeys why do 'blacks' get a monopoly on it?

“It’s not racist if you completely ignore the fact that they are black.”

"What the hell kind of country is this where I can only hate a man if he's white?"


You can hate him, and calling him a monkey has no context.

Whereas black people who were persecuted for centuries were called said things and worse. Which means there is a connection. Do you see the connection ?


I guess not.

I see a group of people trying to throw a guy into a fire. This makes them scum in a vacuum to my mind.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 22 2016 21:42 GMT
#102113
On September 23 2016 06:38 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 06:19 Danglars wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:06 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:00 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:58 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:55 Sermokala wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:54 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.


None of the liberals here brought up race. Your friend GG did. To be fair Plansix gets baited pretty easily and then it just rolled from there.

If you are going to accuse people of doing something get your facts in order.

People brought up race instantly saying that he wanted to call the rioters monkeys but couldn't beacuse then people would know hes a racist what are you talking about.

Yep. This situation is a good example of why I try to limit my interactions with people who fail at basic reading comprehension. It just isn't productive.


You must be so proud of your trolling here. You used the term 'vermin' specifically so that there would be a flame war on it. That's kind of childish for a smart guy, but hey, whatever.


What trolling? Who is going to disagree with the proposition that looters and rioters are vermin? I honestly don't give a fuck what race they are. I can't help it if you guys want to make the conversation about race instead of law and order. That's your prerogative, even if it means exposing some very ugly and unpleasant truths about some of your values.

At this point, I don't think any more exposure is necessary. The cesspool of values is on bright display.


Honestly, what I expected to catch some shit on was that there's a bit of a stink of advocating police brutality/excessive force in my original post. It didn't even occur to me that the rabid PC crowd would go all in on the bullshit "xDaunt is a racist" angle. I guess my expectations for this thread were a little high.

You are correct that a good chunk of the thread is not racist.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12379 Posts
September 22 2016 21:43 GMT
#102114
On September 23 2016 06:38 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 06:19 Danglars wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:06 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:00 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:58 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:55 Sermokala wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:54 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.


None of the liberals here brought up race. Your friend GG did. To be fair Plansix gets baited pretty easily and then it just rolled from there.

If you are going to accuse people of doing something get your facts in order.

People brought up race instantly saying that he wanted to call the rioters monkeys but couldn't beacuse then people would know hes a racist what are you talking about.

Yep. This situation is a good example of why I try to limit my interactions with people who fail at basic reading comprehension. It just isn't productive.


You must be so proud of your trolling here. You used the term 'vermin' specifically so that there would be a flame war on it. That's kind of childish for a smart guy, but hey, whatever.


What trolling? Who is going to disagree with the proposition that looters and rioters are vermin? I honestly don't give a fuck what race they are. I can't help it if you guys want to make the conversation about race instead of law and order. That's your prerogative, even if it means exposing some very ugly and unpleasant truths about some of your values.

At this point, I don't think any more exposure is necessary. The cesspool of values is on bright display.


Honestly, what I expected to catch some shit on was that there's a bit of a stink of advocating police brutality/excessive force in my original post. It didn't even occur to me that the rabid PC crowd would go all in on the bullshit "xDaunt is a racist" angle. I guess my expectations for this thread were a little high.


We're going to go all out on your trolling.

For the sake of logic, we are going to remember that "politically correct" isn't a logical argument against something. So instead of saying that we are pc, we are going to determine how we are illogical, or wrong.

Make the argument against the position expressed in this thread, showing that it's incorrect, or irrational, as opposed to "politically correct".

Go ahead.
No will to live, no wish to die
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23569 Posts
September 22 2016 21:44 GMT
#102115
On September 23 2016 06:38 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 06:19 Danglars wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:06 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:00 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:58 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:55 Sermokala wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:54 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.


None of the liberals here brought up race. Your friend GG did. To be fair Plansix gets baited pretty easily and then it just rolled from there.

If you are going to accuse people of doing something get your facts in order.

People brought up race instantly saying that he wanted to call the rioters monkeys but couldn't beacuse then people would know hes a racist what are you talking about.

Yep. This situation is a good example of why I try to limit my interactions with people who fail at basic reading comprehension. It just isn't productive.


You must be so proud of your trolling here. You used the term 'vermin' specifically so that there would be a flame war on it. That's kind of childish for a smart guy, but hey, whatever.


What trolling? Who is going to disagree with the proposition that looters and rioters are vermin? I honestly don't give a fuck what race they are. I can't help it if you guys want to make the conversation about race instead of law and order. That's your prerogative, even if it means exposing some very ugly and unpleasant truths about some of your values.

At this point, I don't think any more exposure is necessary. The cesspool of values is on bright display.


Honestly, what I expected to catch some shit on was that there's a bit of a stink of advocating police brutality/excessive force in my original post. It didn't even occur to me that the rabid PC crowd would go all in on the bullshit "xDaunt is a racist" angle. I guess my expectations for this thread were a little high.


We weren't going to just ignore your racism. I know that you're typical company would, but that's the beauty of the internet.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
September 22 2016 21:46 GMT
#102116
On September 23 2016 06:38 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 06:37 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Maybe we should have an experiment. GGTemplar can call a white guy on the street a monkey for "doing something dumb". Then he call a black person that and we can compare the results.


Oh I don't go around calling people on the street monkey that is just retarded.

On September 23 2016 06:37 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:30 Slaughter wrote:
The problem is that terms like monkey is rarely applied to white people, even when they are doing bad things.


So what about me? I've thought of more white people as 'fucking monkeys' thank blacks.


You might be surprised to learn that the way people speak around the world isn't generally based on what you think.


Nope not surprised at all. As I've said, I've come to learn I am very different than most people.


So if you aren't surprised, why did you say "What about me?" as if it was surprising that the english language didn't stop to consider all of your particularities?


So that you can come to the rational conclusion that I am one of the rare exceptions who applies it to anyone acting like a monkey. That's what the word literally is. Monkey.

When someone is stupid you can call them stupid. The only difference is this word has historical baggage associated with racism.

This entire argument started because the two were conflated. I can't speak absolutely for other people in this thread, but I wouldn't be surprised if the people who called them 'vermin' or 'thugs' did so because of their actions not because of their skin color.

The criticism came that they were being targeted because of their skin color which I doubt was the case. Maybe I'm wrong, but I know from my perspective at least that it certainly wasn't the case.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 22 2016 21:48 GMT
#102117
On September 23 2016 06:43 Nebuchad wrote:
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On September 23 2016 06:38 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:19 Danglars wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:06 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:00 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:58 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:55 Sermokala wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:54 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.


None of the liberals here brought up race. Your friend GG did. To be fair Plansix gets baited pretty easily and then it just rolled from there.

If you are going to accuse people of doing something get your facts in order.

People brought up race instantly saying that he wanted to call the rioters monkeys but couldn't beacuse then people would know hes a racist what are you talking about.

Yep. This situation is a good example of why I try to limit my interactions with people who fail at basic reading comprehension. It just isn't productive.


You must be so proud of your trolling here. You used the term 'vermin' specifically so that there would be a flame war on it. That's kind of childish for a smart guy, but hey, whatever.


What trolling? Who is going to disagree with the proposition that looters and rioters are vermin? I honestly don't give a fuck what race they are. I can't help it if you guys want to make the conversation about race instead of law and order. That's your prerogative, even if it means exposing some very ugly and unpleasant truths about some of your values.

At this point, I don't think any more exposure is necessary. The cesspool of values is on bright display.


Honestly, what I expected to catch some shit on was that there's a bit of a stink of advocating police brutality/excessive force in my original post. It didn't even occur to me that the rabid PC crowd would go all in on the bullshit "xDaunt is a racist" angle. I guess my expectations for this thread were a little high.


We're going to go all out on your trolling.

For the sake of logic, we are going to remember that "politically correct" isn't a logical argument against something. So instead of saying that we are pc, we are going to determine how we are illogical, or wrong.

Make the argument against the position expressed in this thread, showing that it's incorrect, or irrational, as opposed to "politically correct".

Go ahead.

I'm not using "politically correct" as an argument. I'm using it as a label. And the labeling really has nothing to do with my arguments anyway -- all of which makes your appeal to logic amusing. Certain posters (yourself included) certainly haven't shown any hesitation in relentlessly misrepresenting my point, so don't let logic get in your way.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
September 22 2016 21:48 GMT
#102118
On September 23 2016 06:39 Slaughter wrote:
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On September 23 2016 06:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:30 Slaughter wrote:
The problem is that terms like monkey is rarely applied to white people, even when they are doing bad things.


So what about me? I've thought of more white people as 'fucking monkeys' thank blacks.


Tbh a lot of your posts sound like a cliche. You think you get it and know better so you can throw words around "because I am not actually a racist, I use words differently!" but that is not the same as actually getting it.

Its the common thing of people thinking they are more exceptional then they actually are.


Thanks for the lesson in dunning-kruger effect 101.

Any other freebies? I love getting free psychological evaluations from unqualified strangers online.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12379 Posts
September 22 2016 21:48 GMT
#102119
On September 23 2016 06:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
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On September 23 2016 06:38 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:37 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Maybe we should have an experiment. GGTemplar can call a white guy on the street a monkey for "doing something dumb". Then he call a black person that and we can compare the results.


Oh I don't go around calling people on the street monkey that is just retarded.

On September 23 2016 06:37 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:30 Slaughter wrote:
The problem is that terms like monkey is rarely applied to white people, even when they are doing bad things.


So what about me? I've thought of more white people as 'fucking monkeys' thank blacks.


You might be surprised to learn that the way people speak around the world isn't generally based on what you think.


Nope not surprised at all. As I've said, I've come to learn I am very different than most people.


So if you aren't surprised, why did you say "What about me?" as if it was surprising that the english language didn't stop to consider all of your particularities?


So that you can come to the rational conclusion that I am one of the rare exceptions who applies it to anyone acting like a monkey. That's what the word literally is. Monkey.

When someone is stupid you can call them stupid. The only difference is this word has historical baggage associated with racism.

This entire argument started because the two were conflated. I can't speak absolutely for other people in this thread, but I wouldn't be surprised if the people who called them 'vermin' or 'thugs' did so because of their actions not because of their skin color.

The criticism came that they were being targeted because of their skin color which I doubt was the case. Maybe I'm wrong, but I know from my perspective at least that it certainly wasn't the case.


Your original argument was that we overreacted by calling you a racist when you used racist terms to describe black people. Now you're saying, we should have considered that you're a special snowflake who uses racist terms differently than the other people who are racists.

In what you're saying now, there is no overreaction on our part. It is perfectly logical of us to assume that you're using terms in the same way that the rest of americans do.
No will to live, no wish to die
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12379 Posts
September 22 2016 21:49 GMT
#102120
On September 23 2016 06:48 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 06:43 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:38 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:19 Danglars wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:06 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 06:00 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:58 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:55 Sermokala wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:54 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
[quote]

This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.


None of the liberals here brought up race. Your friend GG did. To be fair Plansix gets baited pretty easily and then it just rolled from there.

If you are going to accuse people of doing something get your facts in order.

People brought up race instantly saying that he wanted to call the rioters monkeys but couldn't beacuse then people would know hes a racist what are you talking about.

Yep. This situation is a good example of why I try to limit my interactions with people who fail at basic reading comprehension. It just isn't productive.


You must be so proud of your trolling here. You used the term 'vermin' specifically so that there would be a flame war on it. That's kind of childish for a smart guy, but hey, whatever.


What trolling? Who is going to disagree with the proposition that looters and rioters are vermin? I honestly don't give a fuck what race they are. I can't help it if you guys want to make the conversation about race instead of law and order. That's your prerogative, even if it means exposing some very ugly and unpleasant truths about some of your values.

At this point, I don't think any more exposure is necessary. The cesspool of values is on bright display.


Honestly, what I expected to catch some shit on was that there's a bit of a stink of advocating police brutality/excessive force in my original post. It didn't even occur to me that the rabid PC crowd would go all in on the bullshit "xDaunt is a racist" angle. I guess my expectations for this thread were a little high.


We're going to go all out on your trolling.

For the sake of logic, we are going to remember that "politically correct" isn't a logical argument against something. So instead of saying that we are pc, we are going to determine how we are illogical, or wrong.

Make the argument against the position expressed in this thread, showing that it's incorrect, or irrational, as opposed to "politically correct".

Go ahead.

I'm not using "politically correct" as an argument. I'm using it as a label. And the labeling really has nothing to do with my arguments anyway -- all of which makes your appeal to logic amusing. Certain posters (yourself included) certainly haven't shown any hesitation in relentlessly misrepresenting my point, so don't let logic get in your way.


So there's nothing wrong logically with our position?
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