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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
September 11 2016 16:55 GMT
#99021
On September 11 2016 23:27 jello_biafra wrote:
So apparently Clinton just had to leave the 9/11 ceremony due to a "medical emergency"?

100 % medical proof she has cancer and can't be president.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
September 11 2016 16:55 GMT
#99022


Someone hacked this guys twitter account and put up Destiny's email for licensing info. Destiny is being swamped with emails from news organizations right now on stream.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
September 11 2016 16:58 GMT
#99023
It's not uncommon for older women to have problems with fainting. Hope that doesn't sound sexist but it's true. My mother is around the same age as Hill Hills and she's fainted a few times and been totally fine afterwards. It's very humid and somewhat hot and rather uncomfortable here in NYC today.

Still should have nominated Bernie, for different reasons than heath problems though.
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biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
September 11 2016 17:11 GMT
#99024
On September 12 2016 01:58 TheFish7 wrote:
It's not uncommon for older women to have problems with fainting. Hope that doesn't sound sexist but it's true. My mother is around the same age as Hill Hills and she's fainted a few times and been totally fine afterwards. It's very humid and somewhat hot and rather uncomfortable here in NYC today.

Still should have nominated Bernie, for different reasons than heath problems though.



Agreed it's most likely nothing serious, they should evaluate her and rule out any type of heart problems but other than probably a common faint. Either way it just doesn't look good when you are running for president.
Question.?
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
September 11 2016 17:33 GMT
#99025
I wonder if Kaine would poll better than Clinton right now
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23957 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-11 17:42:06
September 11 2016 17:36 GMT
#99026
On September 12 2016 02:11 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2016 01:58 TheFish7 wrote:
It's not uncommon for older women to have problems with fainting. Hope that doesn't sound sexist but it's true. My mother is around the same age as Hill Hills and she's fainted a few times and been totally fine afterwards. It's very humid and somewhat hot and rather uncomfortable here in NYC today.

Still should have nominated Bernie, for different reasons than heath problems though.



Agreed it's most likely nothing serious, they should evaluate her and rule out any type of heart problems but other than probably a common faint. Either way it just doesn't look good when you are running for president.


Clearly she's in "excellent health"... Honestly, I don't think there's any evidence she's even in as good of health as Trump is. Even if the doctors notes were interpreted much differently by some Hillary supporters here.

The energy level for this election would be on a whole other level if Bernie was the nominee. Trump would be getting demolished.

Also I guess it's about 82 degrees humid with a breeze at the ceremony.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22373 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-11 17:40:03
September 11 2016 17:39 GMT
#99027
On September 12 2016 02:36 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2016 02:11 biology]major wrote:
On September 12 2016 01:58 TheFish7 wrote:
It's not uncommon for older women to have problems with fainting. Hope that doesn't sound sexist but it's true. My mother is around the same age as Hill Hills and she's fainted a few times and been totally fine afterwards. It's very humid and somewhat hot and rather uncomfortable here in NYC today.

Still should have nominated Bernie, for different reasons than heath problems though.



Agreed it's most likely nothing serious, they should evaluate her and rule out any type of heart problems but other than probably a common faint. Either way it just doesn't look good when you are running for president.


Clearly she's in "excellent health"... Honestly, I don't think there's any evidence she's even in as good of health as Trump is. Even if the doctors notes were interpreted much differently by some Hillary supporters here.

The energy level for this election would be on a whole other level if Bernie was the nominee. Trump would be getting demolished.

You seem to once again have forgotten that Bernie lost on every single metric.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 11 2016 17:40 GMT
#99028
When did the faint happen? I watched a video of her stepping into a van fine with no faint, but Fox News says this,

"The Democratic presidential nominee appeared to faint on her way into her van ...stumbled off the curb, her "knees buckled" and she lost a shoe ..."


Is this just a lie?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
September 11 2016 17:42 GMT
#99029
On September 12 2016 02:11 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2016 01:58 TheFish7 wrote:
It's not uncommon for older women to have problems with fainting. Hope that doesn't sound sexist but it's true. My mother is around the same age as Hill Hills and she's fainted a few times and been totally fine afterwards. It's very humid and somewhat hot and rather uncomfortable here in NYC today.

Still should have nominated Bernie, for different reasons than heath problems though.



Agreed it's most likely nothing serious, they should evaluate her and rule out any type of heart problems but other than probably a common faint. Either way it just doesn't look good when you are running for president.

This. The spin this is going to be given in attack ads is going to be nasty.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
September 11 2016 17:42 GMT
#99030
On September 12 2016 02:40 Doodsmack wrote:
When did the faint happen? I watched a video of her stepping into a van fine with no faint, but Fox News says this,

"The Democratic presidential nominee appeared to faint on her way into her van ...stumbled off the curb, her "knees buckled" and she lost a shoe ..."


Is this just a lie?


Did you watch the videos in tweets on the last page?
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23957 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-11 17:45:56
September 11 2016 17:42 GMT
#99031
On September 12 2016 02:40 Doodsmack wrote:
When did the faint happen? I watched a video of her stepping into a van fine with no faint, but Fox News says this,

"The Democratic presidential nominee appeared to faint on her way into her van ...stumbled off the curb, her "knees buckled" and she lost a shoe ..."


Is this just a lie?


She didn't "step in". She fell forward and was dragged in.

On September 12 2016 02:39 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2016 02:36 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 12 2016 02:11 biology]major wrote:
On September 12 2016 01:58 TheFish7 wrote:
It's not uncommon for older women to have problems with fainting. Hope that doesn't sound sexist but it's true. My mother is around the same age as Hill Hills and she's fainted a few times and been totally fine afterwards. It's very humid and somewhat hot and rather uncomfortable here in NYC today.

Still should have nominated Bernie, for different reasons than heath problems though.



Agreed it's most likely nothing serious, they should evaluate her and rule out any type of heart problems but other than probably a common faint. Either way it just doesn't look good when you are running for president.


Clearly she's in "excellent health"... Honestly, I don't think there's any evidence she's even in as good of health as Trump is. Even if the doctors notes were interpreted much differently by some Hillary supporters here.

The energy level for this election would be on a whole other level if Bernie was the nominee. Trump would be getting demolished.

You seem to once again have forgotten that Bernie lost on every single metric.


Yeah, except we're talking a general, not a primary. One of several metrics Bernie crushed in was independents. Bernie would have the same number or more Democrats while having far more support from people outside the dem party.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
September 11 2016 17:49 GMT
#99032
On September 12 2016 02:42 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2016 02:11 biology]major wrote:
On September 12 2016 01:58 TheFish7 wrote:
It's not uncommon for older women to have problems with fainting. Hope that doesn't sound sexist but it's true. My mother is around the same age as Hill Hills and she's fainted a few times and been totally fine afterwards. It's very humid and somewhat hot and rather uncomfortable here in NYC today.

Still should have nominated Bernie, for different reasons than heath problems though.



Agreed it's most likely nothing serious, they should evaluate her and rule out any type of heart problems but other than probably a common faint. Either way it just doesn't look good when you are running for president.

This. The spin this is going to be given in attack ads is going to be nasty.


To me it's fairly mind-boggling that people genuinely want such a sickly person in power. Maybe it's just me who thinks it portrays US really poorly... The attack ads will be there, they will hurt, but this is certainly one of the more legitimate things to attacks out there. Soon you'll see someone feeding Hillary food (exaggeration)... Yeah, not leadership material, I wish she went another political route (or retired).

Anyway, next few weeks of the elections should be interesting, a really good poll came out for Hillary today at +8, if that has any accuracy, it's game over for Trump.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22373 Posts
September 11 2016 17:50 GMT
#99033
On September 12 2016 02:40 Doodsmack wrote:
When did the faint happen? I watched a video of her stepping into a van fine with no faint, but Fox News says this,

"The Democratic presidential nominee appeared to faint on her way into her van ...stumbled off the curb, her "knees buckled" and she lost a shoe ..."


Is this just a lie?




She is pretty much dragged forward and into the car. you can see her 'collapse' just before SS covers up the shot.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
September 11 2016 17:50 GMT
#99034
I certainly think Bernie would do better at this point. Footage of her collapsing is seriously shitty. I think they'll have no choice but to replace her if this happens again.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
September 11 2016 17:53 GMT
#99035
On September 12 2016 02:40 Doodsmack wrote:
When did the faint happen? I watched a video of her stepping into a van fine with no faint, but Fox News says this,

"The Democratic presidential nominee appeared to faint on her way into her van ...stumbled off the curb, her "knees buckled" and she lost a shoe ..."


Is this just a lie?

You must have missed the video, she was flopping about like a fish.
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-11 17:56:13
September 11 2016 17:55 GMT
#99036
On September 12 2016 02:40 Doodsmack wrote:
When did the faint happen? I watched a video of her stepping into a van fine with no faint, but Fox News says this,

"The Democratic presidential nominee appeared to faint on her way into her van ...stumbled off the curb, her "knees buckled" and she lost a shoe ..."


Is this just a lie?



Look at her feet (and her being propped up on a post before that)
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23957 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-11 17:55:56
September 11 2016 17:55 GMT
#99037
In both you can see she doesn't step at all with her right foot.

Anyone want to bet there were other older people in the audience (less breeze and more heat do to densely packed people) that did fine and also would laugh if anyone tried to tell them they were in "excellent health".
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-11 17:57:41
September 11 2016 17:56 GMT
#99038
I have a proposal for a proposition that everyone in the thread could perhaps agree with:

If both Hillary and Trump dropped out and made it a Kaine vs Pence race, the country would be better off.

Poll: Agree?

Yes (16)
 
70%

No (5)
 
22%

Not Sure (2)
 
9%

23 total votes

Your vote: Agree?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Not Sure

TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 11 2016 17:58 GMT
#99039
That's mostly my calculus for this election already, seeing as I find both Hillary and Trump to be pretty shitty, but Kaine to be much more palatable than Pence.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-11 18:01:49
September 11 2016 18:00 GMT
#99040
On September 12 2016 02:56 Doodsmack wrote:
I have a proposal for a proposition that everyone in the thread could perhaps agree with:

If both Hillary and Trump dropped out and made it a Kaine vs Pence race, the country would be better off.

Poll: Agree?

Yes (16)
 
70%

No (5)
 
22%

Not Sure (2)
 
9%

23 total votes

Your vote: Agree?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Not Sure



Well it'd be going back 30 years. Pence is all about religion, and Kaine is too right wing of most people.

Pence would never win, which is bad, since the Democratic establishment is screwed up right now, and they need to lose ro get their senses straight. Even though I'd rather have Kaine than Hillary... that said, I'd rather have a drug addict teen than Hillary.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
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