|
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up! NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious. Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action. |
United States41989 Posts
On August 23 2016 05:31 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2016 05:28 mahrgell wrote:On August 23 2016 05:27 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:26 mahrgell wrote:On August 23 2016 05:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:23 On_Slaught wrote:Man, are we really having a discussion about whether a mess is sexist? Let's all just agree he acts like a piece of shit to all people equally. Unless you're Russian.  Glad you agree it isn't sexist and it's fucking retarded for doodsmack to assert it is You know that your insistence on this "victory" makes you look pretty much the same as doodsmack? I'd argue your defense of him makes you look like him. You may have noticed I already agreed on your judgement of him, which I would call hardly "defending him". But go on. I think it's funny how if some alt-right guy comes in this thread posting nonsense when everyone jumps on his bullshit, none of the right-oriented posters speak up to defend him. Bullshit is bullshit and there's no need to. But it seems like when a regressive-left guy like doodsmack starts spreading nonsense, if you try to call him out on it the cavalry comes because left sticks together even if it's just retarded No one should be defending Doodsmack's argument here yet so many of you are fighting against the shitstorm he's getting. He said something ridiculous. He got called out on it and refused to acknowledge he was wrong.
I think his trolling is actionable. I don't think anyone is agreeing with him, he lost the argument then started trolling. The only "defense" he's getting is people saying to stop feeding the troll. See if you can find Falling or someone to mod him if you like.
|
On August 23 2016 05:31 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2016 05:28 mahrgell wrote:On August 23 2016 05:27 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:26 mahrgell wrote:On August 23 2016 05:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:23 On_Slaught wrote:Man, are we really having a discussion about whether a mess is sexist? Let's all just agree he acts like a piece of shit to all people equally. Unless you're Russian. Glad you agree it isn't sexist and it's fucking retarded for doodsmack to assert it is You know that your insistence on this "victory" makes you look pretty much the same as doodsmack? I'd argue your defense of him makes you look like him. You may have noticed I already agreed on your judgement of him, which I would call hardly "defending him". But go on. I think it's funny how if some alt-right guy comes in this thread posting nonsense when everyone jumps on his bullshit, none of the right-oriented posters speak up to defend him. Bullshit is bullshit and there's no need to. But it seems like when a regressive-left guy like doodsmack starts spreading nonsense, if you try to call him out on it the cavalry comes because left sticks together even if it's just retarded No one should be defending Doodsmack's argument here yet so many of you are fighting against the shitstorm he's getting
You have a serious weakness in reading comprehension. There are more than a dozen posters, which are either euros (which are by US politics thread definition always considered somewhere between far left and communists) or US lefties saying that this discussion about "mess -> sexism" is completelly bullocks. I doubt any of those posters considers doodsmacks posts as sane... And instead of just enjoying it, you do your very best again and again to jump into doodsmacks boat of bullshit posts and help him to steer this thread into the abyss of contentless nonsense this election cycle has become.
and by the time this post was written, probably another few dozen posters have joined the above dozen
e: oh, it calmed down
|
On August 23 2016 05:37 xDaunt wrote:
I'm never giving up my use of the word "retard." I've all but abandoned "gay," but "retard" is going to be my Alamo. NOT ANOTHER INCH SHALL BE GIVEN!
As someone raised in the 80s, I was with you. But you gotta let it go man. The truly mentally handicapped of the world don’t deserve to be associated with the people we would call “retarded”.
|
persecution complexes on persecution complexes crying wolf on crying wolf when will it all end
On August 23 2016 05:40 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2016 05:37 xDaunt wrote:
I'm never giving up my use of the word "retard." I've all but abandoned "gay," but "retard" is going to be my Alamo. NOT ANOTHER INCH SHALL BE GIVEN! As someone raised in the 80s, I was with you. But you gotta let it go man. The truly mentally handicapped of the world don’t deserve to be associated with the people we would call “retarded”.
we already stopped calling those people retarded though; you just demonstrated a more currently-acceptable descriptor right there: "mentally handicapped"
not to say mentally handicapped hasnt been appropriated as an insult itself
wow i just became an infested terran
|
Its too early in the week for you all to be this drunk.
|
I don't think bringing up Trump's sexist language and looking at patterns is asinine.
"blood coming out of her wherever"
Let's consider how many people ITT defend this comment. And then realize the issue is worth discussing.
|
On August 23 2016 05:44 Doodsmack wrote:
I don't think bringing up Trump's sexist language and looking at patterns is asinine.
"blood coming out of her wherever"
Let's consider how many people ITT defend this comment. And then realize the issue is worth discussing.
contextualize it and let the shitshow begin
the prevailing defense of "trump's just aggressively nasty in general" still works here for the record
|
On August 23 2016 05:38 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2016 05:31 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:28 mahrgell wrote:On August 23 2016 05:27 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:26 mahrgell wrote:On August 23 2016 05:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:23 On_Slaught wrote:Man, are we really having a discussion about whether a mess is sexist? Let's all just agree he acts like a piece of shit to all people equally. Unless you're Russian. Glad you agree it isn't sexist and it's fucking retarded for doodsmack to assert it is You know that your insistence on this "victory" makes you look pretty much the same as doodsmack? I'd argue your defense of him makes you look like him. You may have noticed I already agreed on your judgement of him, which I would call hardly "defending him". But go on. I think it's funny how if some alt-right guy comes in this thread posting nonsense when everyone jumps on his bullshit, none of the right-oriented posters speak up to defend him. Bullshit is bullshit and there's no need to. But it seems like when a regressive-left guy like doodsmack starts spreading nonsense, if you try to call him out on it the cavalry comes because left sticks together even if it's just retarded No one should be defending Doodsmack's argument here yet so many of you are fighting against the shitstorm he's getting. He said something ridiculous. He got called out on it and refused to acknowledge he was wrong. I think his trolling is actionable. I don't think anyone is agreeing with him, he lost the argument then started trolling. The only "defense" he's getting is people saying to stop feeding the troll. See if you can find Falling or someone to mod him if you like.
I'm sorry but calling someone who's sweating profusely a mess is not the same as calling someone a mess as a person. To call it trolling is to ignore the pattern.
|
On August 23 2016 05:44 Doodsmack wrote:
I don't think bringing up Drumpf's sexist language and looking at patterns is asinine.
"blood coming out of her wherever"
Let's consider how many people ITT defend this comment. And then realize the issue is worth discussing.
I think the point is that for him to be sexist that his insults need to be streamlined to women, which they arent. He insults everybody pretty much equally.
What is sexist or not is predicated on whether he reserves his insults for women and not men. But he insults everyone pretty equally. So I dont think hes sexist hes just a douchebag with thin skin.
He might well be sexist but his insults and comments are rarely about women in general except that whole "if dinners on the table I go through roof" comment and maybe one or 2 here or there, which is a sexist comment but not not one to read that heavily into it which is one of the more annoying things about the PC brigade.
Most of his attacks have been at "personalities" that got under his skin, irrespective of whether they are men or women. Either way as people have mentioned I dont see why this needs to be debated.
On August 23 2016 05:35 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2016 05:31 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:28 mahrgell wrote:On August 23 2016 05:27 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:26 mahrgell wrote:On August 23 2016 05:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:23 On_Slaught wrote:Man, are we really having a discussion about whether a mess is sexist? Let's all just agree he acts like a piece of shit to all people equally. Unless you're Russian. Glad you agree it isn't sexist and it's fucking retarded for doodsmack to assert it is You know that your insistence on this "victory" makes you look pretty much the same as doodsmack? I'd argue your defense of him makes you look like him. You may have noticed I already agreed on your judgement of him, which I would call hardly "defending him". But go on. I think it's funny how if some alt-right guy comes in this thread posting nonsense when everyone jumps on his bullshit, none of the right-oriented posters speak up to defend him. Bullshit is bullshit and there's no need to. But it seems like when a regressive-left guy like doodsmack starts spreading nonsense, if you try to call him out on it the cavalry comes because left sticks together even if it's just retarded There are really not that many people defending Doom. And plenty of people defend the conspiracy theory non-sense posted by some of our alt-right regulars.
If anything the fact that he allowed himself to fall to that level is a pretty big indictment, most people just ignored it.
I think hes just upset that no one came to save him from the troll (which some people were nice enough to do for that matter).
|
On August 23 2016 05:49 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2016 05:44 Doodsmack wrote:
I don't think bringing up Drumpf's sexist language and looking at patterns is asinine.
"blood coming out of her wherever"
Let's consider how many people ITT defend this comment. And then realize the issue is worth discussing. I think the point is that for him to be sexist that his insults need to be streamlined to women, which they arent. He insults everybody pretty much equally. What is sexist or not is predicated on whether he reserves his insults for women and not men. But he insults everyone pretty equally. So I dont think hes sexist hes just a douchebag with thin skin. He might well be sexist but his insults and comments are rarely about women in general (except that whole "if dinners on the table I go through roof" comment) which is a sexist comment but not one to read that heavily into. Most of his attacks have been at "personalities" irrespective of whether they are men or women. Either way as people have mentioned I dont see why this needs to be debated.
Well not all insults are created equal. It's about the pattern.
"blood coming out of her wherever"
"look at that face, are we serious?"
To name a few. Trump's supporters including xDaunt, oBlade and Templar defend these statements as not sexist. Therefore it's a worthwhile topic.
|
On August 23 2016 05:53 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2016 05:49 Rebs wrote:On August 23 2016 05:44 Doodsmack wrote:
I don't think bringing up Drumpf's sexist language and looking at patterns is asinine.
"blood coming out of her wherever"
Let's consider how many people ITT defend this comment. And then realize the issue is worth discussing. I think the point is that for him to be sexist that his insults need to be streamlined to women, which they arent. He insults everybody pretty much equally. What is sexist or not is predicated on whether he reserves his insults for women and not men. But he insults everyone pretty equally. So I dont think hes sexist hes just a douchebag with thin skin. He might well be sexist but his insults and comments are rarely about women in general (except that whole "if dinners on the table I go through roof" comment) which is a sexist comment but not one to read that heavily into. Most of his attacks have been at "personalities" irrespective of whether they are men or women. Either way as people have mentioned I dont see why this needs to be debated. Well not all insults are created equal. It's about the pattern. "blood coming out of her wherever" "look at that face, are we serious?" To name a few. Drumpf's supporters including xDaunt, oBlade and Templar defend these statements as not sexist.
You are missing the point.
Sexism is prejudice based on someones gender. Its been pretty clear that he wasnt insulting the women in these cases because they were women, he was insulting them because he didnt like them. The point isnt that he isnt an asshole its that at this point there is plenty of evidence that those comments are consistent for everyone regardless of their gender.
Again he may well be sexist, but those comments based on his record are no longer evidence of that fact. If you are talking about patterns. The pattern to me is
Trump gets pissed off -> Trump insults. Thats the only discernible pattern.
And again to make it really really clear because this is the last time I will entertain this. He isnt just insulting women based on their gender. Hes just insulting them and everyone else that gets under his skin. Which is like super easy to do.
|
United States41989 Posts
On August 23 2016 05:53 Doodsmack wrote:
To name a few. Trump's supporters including xDaunt, oBlade and Templar defend these statements as not sexist. Therefore it's a worthwhile topic.
Actually we had a whole exchange a while ago in which GGTemplar talked about the sexism in both campaigns and conceded the sexism in Trump's remarks. This topic was actually having some value before you shit it up.
|
On August 23 2016 05:49 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2016 05:44 Doodsmack wrote:
I don't think bringing up Drumpf's sexist language and looking at patterns is asinine.
"blood coming out of her wherever"
Let's consider how many people ITT defend this comment. And then realize the issue is worth discussing. I think the point is that for him to be sexist that his insults need to be streamlined to women, which they arent. He insults everybody pretty much equally. What is sexist or not is predicated on whether he reserves his insults for women and not men. But he insults everyone pretty equally. So I dont think hes sexist hes just a douchebag with thin skin. He might well be sexist but his insults and comments are rarely about women in general except that whole "if dinners on the table I go through roof" comment and maybe one or 2 here or there, which is a sexist comment but not not one to read that heavily into it which is one of the more annoying things about the PC brigade. Most of his attacks have been at "personalities" that got under his skin, irrespective of whether they are men or women. Either way as people have mentioned I dont see why this needs to be debated. Show nested quote +On August 23 2016 05:35 Plansix wrote:On August 23 2016 05:31 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:28 mahrgell wrote:On August 23 2016 05:27 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:26 mahrgell wrote:On August 23 2016 05:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:23 On_Slaught wrote:Man, are we really having a discussion about whether a mess is sexist? Let's all just agree he acts like a piece of shit to all people equally. Unless you're Russian. Glad you agree it isn't sexist and it's fucking retarded for doodsmack to assert it is You know that your insistence on this "victory" makes you look pretty much the same as doodsmack? I'd argue your defense of him makes you look like him. You may have noticed I already agreed on your judgement of him, which I would call hardly "defending him". But go on. I think it's funny how if some alt-right guy comes in this thread posting nonsense when everyone jumps on his bullshit, none of the right-oriented posters speak up to defend him. Bullshit is bullshit and there's no need to. But it seems like when a regressive-left guy like doodsmack starts spreading nonsense, if you try to call him out on it the cavalry comes because left sticks together even if it's just retarded There are really not that many people defending Doom. And plenty of people defend the conspiracy theory non-sense posted by some of our alt-right regulars. If anything the fact that he allowed himself to fall to that level is a pretty big indictment, most people just ignored it. I think hes just upset that no one came to save him from the troll (which some people were nice enough to do for that matter).
Although I agree that Trump attacks everyone the instant he gets a chance, I’ve never been a huge fan of the “he is horrible to everyone, so he isn’t racist/sexist” argument. It is possible that he is both horrible to everyone and be a horrible sexist asshole at the same time.
But you are right that the comments themselves are not what should convince people. It is the interview about his wives and other stories about how he has treated women. There are plenty of those out there.
|
If you want to look for evidence of Trump being sexist, you only have to try a little harder than microscopically dissecting how he insults people. There's really no reason to be so attached to this one stupid line of attack.
This discussion is really pointless.
|
On August 23 2016 05:49 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2016 05:44 Doodsmack wrote:
I don't think bringing up Drumpf's sexist language and looking at patterns is asinine.
"blood coming out of her wherever"
Let's consider how many people ITT defend this comment. And then realize the issue is worth discussing. I think the point is that for him to be sexist that his insults need to be streamlined to women, which they arent. He insults everybody pretty much equally. What is sexist or not is predicated on whether he reserves his insults for women and not men. But he insults everyone pretty equally. So I dont think hes sexist hes just a douchebag with thin skin.
I disagree. Many of his comments towards women are explicitly anti-woman comments, whereas he doesn't make fun of men for being men.
He's a dick towards plenty of groups, but that just means he's sexist towards women and racist towards Hispanics and bigoted towards Muslims, etc. He's a shitty person in general, true, but he's also made very prejudicial statements as well.
|
On August 23 2016 05:55 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2016 05:53 Doodsmack wrote:On August 23 2016 05:49 Rebs wrote:On August 23 2016 05:44 Doodsmack wrote:
I don't think bringing up Drumpf's sexist language and looking at patterns is asinine.
"blood coming out of her wherever"
Let's consider how many people ITT defend this comment. And then realize the issue is worth discussing. I think the point is that for him to be sexist that his insults need to be streamlined to women, which they arent. He insults everybody pretty much equally. What is sexist or not is predicated on whether he reserves his insults for women and not men. But he insults everyone pretty equally. So I dont think hes sexist hes just a douchebag with thin skin. He might well be sexist but his insults and comments are rarely about women in general (except that whole "if dinners on the table I go through roof" comment) which is a sexist comment but not one to read that heavily into. Most of his attacks have been at "personalities" irrespective of whether they are men or women. Either way as people have mentioned I dont see why this needs to be debated. Well not all insults are created equal. It's about the pattern. "blood coming out of her wherever" "look at that face, are we serious?" To name a few. Drumpf's supporters including xDaunt, oBlade and Templar defend these statements as not sexist. You are missing the point. Sexism is prejudice based on someones gender. Its been pretty clear that he wasnt insulting the women in these cases because they were women, he was insulting them because he didnt like them. The point isnt that he isnt an asshole its that at this point there is plenty of evidence that those comments are consistent for everyone regardless of their gender. Again he may well be sexist, but those comments based on his record are no longer evidence of that fact. If you are talking about patterns. The pattern to me is Trump gets pissed off -> Trump insults. Thats the only discernible pattern. And again to make it really really clear because this is the last time I will entertain this. He isnt just insulting women based on their gender. Hes just insulting them and everyone else that gets under his skin. Which is like super easy to do.
The language is different. Different insults are different. That he insults everyone doesn't preclude the possibility he uses different language, by and large, for different genders.
|
On August 23 2016 06:02 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2016 05:55 Rebs wrote:On August 23 2016 05:53 Doodsmack wrote:On August 23 2016 05:49 Rebs wrote:On August 23 2016 05:44 Doodsmack wrote:
I don't think bringing up Drumpf's sexist language and looking at patterns is asinine.
"blood coming out of her wherever"
Let's consider how many people ITT defend this comment. And then realize the issue is worth discussing. I think the point is that for him to be sexist that his insults need to be streamlined to women, which they arent. He insults everybody pretty much equally. What is sexist or not is predicated on whether he reserves his insults for women and not men. But he insults everyone pretty equally. So I dont think hes sexist hes just a douchebag with thin skin. He might well be sexist but his insults and comments are rarely about women in general (except that whole "if dinners on the table I go through roof" comment) which is a sexist comment but not one to read that heavily into. Most of his attacks have been at "personalities" irrespective of whether they are men or women. Either way as people have mentioned I dont see why this needs to be debated. Well not all insults are created equal. It's about the pattern. "blood coming out of her wherever" "look at that face, are we serious?" To name a few. Drumpf's supporters including xDaunt, oBlade and Templar defend these statements as not sexist. You are missing the point. Sexism is prejudice based on someones gender. Its been pretty clear that he wasnt insulting the women in these cases because they were women, he was insulting them because he didnt like them. The point isnt that he isnt an asshole its that at this point there is plenty of evidence that those comments are consistent for everyone regardless of their gender. Again he may well be sexist, but those comments based on his record are no longer evidence of that fact. If you are talking about patterns. The pattern to me is Trump gets pissed off -> Trump insults. Thats the only discernible pattern. And again to make it really really clear because this is the last time I will entertain this. He isnt just insulting women based on their gender. Hes just insulting them and everyone else that gets under his skin. Which is like super easy to do. The language is different. Different insults are different. That he insults everyone doesn't preclude the possibility he uses different language, by and large, for different genders.
Although I agree with you that he does seem to attack women just for being women, I don’t think that specific comment in the hill to die on. I would say it is not ever worth discussing due to the volume of evidence out there.
|
I saw the thread gained like 10 pages in a couple hours and assumed something crazy happened. So disappointed!
|
United States41989 Posts
On August 23 2016 06:03 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2016 06:02 Doodsmack wrote:On August 23 2016 05:55 Rebs wrote:On August 23 2016 05:53 Doodsmack wrote:On August 23 2016 05:49 Rebs wrote:On August 23 2016 05:44 Doodsmack wrote:
I don't think bringing up Drumpf's sexist language and looking at patterns is asinine.
"blood coming out of her wherever"
Let's consider how many people ITT defend this comment. And then realize the issue is worth discussing. I think the point is that for him to be sexist that his insults need to be streamlined to women, which they arent. He insults everybody pretty much equally. What is sexist or not is predicated on whether he reserves his insults for women and not men. But he insults everyone pretty equally. So I dont think hes sexist hes just a douchebag with thin skin. He might well be sexist but his insults and comments are rarely about women in general (except that whole "if dinners on the table I go through roof" comment) which is a sexist comment but not one to read that heavily into. Most of his attacks have been at "personalities" irrespective of whether they are men or women. Either way as people have mentioned I dont see why this needs to be debated. Well not all insults are created equal. It's about the pattern. "blood coming out of her wherever" "look at that face, are we serious?" To name a few. Drumpf's supporters including xDaunt, oBlade and Templar defend these statements as not sexist. You are missing the point. Sexism is prejudice based on someones gender. Its been pretty clear that he wasnt insulting the women in these cases because they were women, he was insulting them because he didnt like them. The point isnt that he isnt an asshole its that at this point there is plenty of evidence that those comments are consistent for everyone regardless of their gender. Again he may well be sexist, but those comments based on his record are no longer evidence of that fact. If you are talking about patterns. The pattern to me is Trump gets pissed off -> Trump insults. Thats the only discernible pattern. And again to make it really really clear because this is the last time I will entertain this. He isnt just insulting women based on their gender. Hes just insulting them and everyone else that gets under his skin. Which is like super easy to do. The language is different. Different insults are different. That he insults everyone doesn't preclude the possibility he uses different language, by and large, for different genders. Although I agree with you that he does seem to attack women just for being women, I don’t think that specific comment in the hill to die on. I would say it is not ever worth discussing due to the volume of evidence out there.
Pretty much. I think Trump is sexist but the mess line of attack was weak and GGTemplar's response covered it. Let me know when he starts using gendered insults like bitch or pussy to describe Republicans who won't get behind him and we'll talk.
|
On August 23 2016 05:57 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2016 05:49 Rebs wrote:On August 23 2016 05:44 Doodsmack wrote:
I don't think bringing up Drumpf's sexist language and looking at patterns is asinine.
"blood coming out of her wherever"
Let's consider how many people ITT defend this comment. And then realize the issue is worth discussing. I think the point is that for him to be sexist that his insults need to be streamlined to women, which they arent. He insults everybody pretty much equally. What is sexist or not is predicated on whether he reserves his insults for women and not men. But he insults everyone pretty equally. So I dont think hes sexist hes just a douchebag with thin skin. He might well be sexist but his insults and comments are rarely about women in general except that whole "if dinners on the table I go through roof" comment and maybe one or 2 here or there, which is a sexist comment but not not one to read that heavily into it which is one of the more annoying things about the PC brigade. Most of his attacks have been at "personalities" that got under his skin, irrespective of whether they are men or women. Either way as people have mentioned I dont see why this needs to be debated. On August 23 2016 05:35 Plansix wrote:On August 23 2016 05:31 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:28 mahrgell wrote:On August 23 2016 05:27 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:26 mahrgell wrote:On August 23 2016 05:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 23 2016 05:23 On_Slaught wrote:Man, are we really having a discussion about whether a mess is sexist? Let's all just agree he acts like a piece of shit to all people equally. Unless you're Russian. Glad you agree it isn't sexist and it's fucking retarded for doodsmack to assert it is You know that your insistence on this "victory" makes you look pretty much the same as doodsmack? I'd argue your defense of him makes you look like him. You may have noticed I already agreed on your judgement of him, which I would call hardly "defending him". But go on. I think it's funny how if some alt-right guy comes in this thread posting nonsense when everyone jumps on his bullshit, none of the right-oriented posters speak up to defend him. Bullshit is bullshit and there's no need to. But it seems like when a regressive-left guy like doodsmack starts spreading nonsense, if you try to call him out on it the cavalry comes because left sticks together even if it's just retarded There are really not that many people defending Doom. And plenty of people defend the conspiracy theory non-sense posted by some of our alt-right regulars. If anything the fact that he allowed himself to fall to that level is a pretty big indictment, most people just ignored it. I think hes just upset that no one came to save him from the troll (which some people were nice enough to do for that matter). Although I agree that Drumpf attacks everyone the instant he gets a chance, I’ve never been a huge fan of the “he is horrible to everyone, so he isn’t racist/sexist” argument. It is possible that he is both horrible to everyone and be a horrible sexist asshole at the same time. But you are right that the comments themselves are not what should convince people. It is the interview about his wives and other stories about how he has treated women. There are plenty of those out there.
Well I added that caveat in the edit. I myself think he is both racist as sexist. But I wouldn't present those insults as arguments that he is sexist because in isolation those comments are maybe sexist but he has never really pinpointed anyone's gender as being the reason that he insults them. Nor has he belittled anyone else by using women based demeaning terms. Or maybe I didnt pay enough attention.
As for his racism. He's literally claimed that people are bad by virtue of their race or nationality so there isnt much left to discuss there.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
