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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
August 15 2016 01:30 GMT
#94801
On August 15 2016 10:18 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 09:47 GoTuNk! wrote:
On August 14 2016 13:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
Hillary said she would release her transcripts when her opponents did. Her opponents released theirs, and the promise was to Democratic primary voters. We just consider it another in a long list of broken and soon to be broken promises/misleadings.

I remember when people were still sticking with the story Hillary wasn't making millions off of speeches after she knew she was running for president.

On August 14 2016 12:29 oBlade wrote:
http://www.milwaukeepolicenews.com/?p=9083

A Milwaukee Police officer shot and killed an armed suspect fleeing from a car on Milwaukee’s North Side.






https://www.rt.com/usa/355828-milwaukee-police-shooting-riots/#.V6_h-muPScs.twitter

Riots and clashes with police have been reported in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, after a man was shot dead by an officer during a chase on foot on Saturday. Police say the victim was armed with a handgun.

Scores of angry African American protesters gathered near the scene of the police shooting at Sherman Boulevard. What at first seemed like a Black Lives Matter-style gathering, however, soon got out of control.


It's almost like police should have been fixing this decades ago instead of lying their asses off while letting it get worse. It's no excuse for violence, but I can't act surprised at this point.


I believe there are no transcripts because they didn't even bother with the fake speeches and that she flat out got payed.

That's a wonderfully cynical thought that also sounds plausible.

sounds more like grossly implausible. though there's plenty of known cognitive errors around the perception of plausibility and the estimation of likelihood.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 15 2016 01:41 GMT
#94802
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
August 15 2016 01:44 GMT
#94803
On August 15 2016 09:15 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:06 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:05 zlefin wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:03 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 08:57 zlefin wrote:
nuked -> No, it's not, which means you either didn't read the question properly, or don't know what you're talking about remotely, given how complex the sourcing of social issues is.
you also wouldn't get banned for being generically not pc.

so your statement is simply ignorant nonsense.
and if you think you know the answer, you should post it.

Its not complex at all.

Does telling someone hes ignorant make you feel above him? I can respect that. I like the word.

if you have the answer, provide it; otherwise you got nothing.

I have the answer but i would get banned if i provided it.


Sheriff of milwaukee already answered this question. Single parent households, terrible parenting, terrible schools and overall lack of personal accountability in the community. As to why black people commit crime disproportionately, it's a cultural thing that many of them are trapped in. Hard to escape though, if you have no dad, and no adequate schooling.

Lack of personal accountability led to some of the most extreme segregation in the nation?

lol

Are there any segregation graphics for major Canadian cities? I dont feel segregation is a problem up here but im open to data.
EG - ROOT - Gambit Gaming
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
August 15 2016 02:05 GMT
#94804
There was a district near me in Minnesota that got charged with changing its school system or it would be classified as segregated and that was only on a 35% minority to 15% minority difference in schools. It doesn't take much to create a system that sends minority students to worse schools to inflate certin test scores for NCLB funding.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-15 02:07:17
August 15 2016 02:06 GMT
#94805
On August 15 2016 10:41 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/CLewandowski_/status/764989713149267968


Sigh. I hope we're delaying giving Donald Trump classified information for as long as possible. Every day, it seems, we're hearing about a new staffer or accomplice having direct ties to Putin and/or the Kremlin.

Unbelievable. It just gets worse and worse.

What a surprise that Donald Trump has a weird, previously unexplained distaste for NATO. Trump probably couldn't even name half the countries in Eastern Europe, but for "some reason", he has strong opinions about NATO.

What a coincidence.

But what does it matter? Donald Trump could invite Vladimir Putin over to desecrate on Ronald Reagan's corpse, and I'm sure the Trump-voters would find it great.
Big water
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24504 Posts
August 15 2016 02:06 GMT
#94806
On August 15 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 09:06 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:05 zlefin wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:03 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 08:57 zlefin wrote:
nuked -> No, it's not, which means you either didn't read the question properly, or don't know what you're talking about remotely, given how complex the sourcing of social issues is.
you also wouldn't get banned for being generically not pc.

so your statement is simply ignorant nonsense.
and if you think you know the answer, you should post it.

Its not complex at all.

Does telling someone hes ignorant make you feel above him? I can respect that. I like the word.

if you have the answer, provide it; otherwise you got nothing.

I have the answer but i would get banned if i provided it.


Sheriff of milwaukee already answered this question. Single parent households, terrible parenting, terrible schools and overall lack of personal accountability in the community. As to why black people commit crime disproportionately, it's a cultural thing that many of them are trapped in. Hard to escape though, if you have no dad, and no adequate schooling.


Just because a black sheriff said it doesn't mean it wasn't racist, stupid, and wrong. Single Parent households, terrible schools have little to nothing to do with black people's culture, that's a result of white culture. Remember it was white culture that trafficked them to the US, stripped them of their language and culture, then killed them if they learned to read, write, swim, etc...

It was white culture that segregated them, put them in the crappiest places they could (by legally and illegally forbidding them from living places, and confiscating their land),

As for crime statistics, you have to be pretty gawddamn dense to think they paint an accurate picture of who's committing crimes

It would lead you to think things like rich white people don't do cocaine, when we know they consume more than their fair share. Like the video I posted earlier where he says "black people don't carry spring assisted knives more than white people", but if you looked at BPD's booking sheets you'd swear they all do.

That's because if you have a white guy walking down the street and a black guy walking down the street, both with a knife, only one of them is going to get stopped unconstitutionally, violated again when he is searched, then if he stands up for his rights and tries to inform the officer he's violating the law, he get's an asswhoopin and arrested for resisting arrest (for the knife the cop didn't know about until violating his constitutional rights 2x).

If by the off chance the cop does stop and arrest the white guy, it's far more likely the cop gets a reprimand and the guy's case gets dismissed. Meanwhile the black guy is looking at a longer sentence and no defender to point out his rights were violated multiple times invalidating the arrest.

White culture destroyed black culture, murdered anyone who tried to bring it back, segregated black people, abused them, stole from them, denied them their rights, imprisoned their fathers, still segregating their education, and as I showed in Milwaukee, still segregating cities, racist policing, and so much more crap...

It's certainly a culture issue, but it's white culture that's the problem.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
August 15 2016 02:17 GMT
#94807
On August 15 2016 11:06 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 10:41 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/CLewandowski_/status/764989713149267968


Sigh. I hope we're delaying giving Donald Trump classified information for as long as possible. Every day, it seems, we're hearing about a new staffer or accomplice having direct ties to Putin and/or the Kremlin.

Unbelievable. It just gets worse and worse.

What a surprise that Donald Trump has a weird, previously unexplained distaste for NATO. Trump probably couldn't even name half the countries in Eastern Europe, but for "some reason", he has strong opinions about NATO.

What a coincidence.

But what does it matter? Donald Trump could invite Vladimir Putin over to desecrate on Ronald Reagan's corpse, and I'm sure the Trump-voters would find it great.

The ties are to the old Ukrainian government, which the article says was pro-Russian but that's only half true. Mostly it's just a corrupt mess that was willing to take Russian money.

Trump does say some bizarre things about NATO, but at the least I think the "everyone should pay their fair share" is his own sentiment. It doesn't sound like a foreign talking point.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 15 2016 02:23 GMT
#94808
GH wtf is white culture?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-15 02:33:01
August 15 2016 02:32 GMT
#94809
On August 15 2016 11:06 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:06 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:05 zlefin wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:03 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 08:57 zlefin wrote:
nuked -> No, it's not, which means you either didn't read the question properly, or don't know what you're talking about remotely, given how complex the sourcing of social issues is.
you also wouldn't get banned for being generically not pc.

so your statement is simply ignorant nonsense.
and if you think you know the answer, you should post it.

Its not complex at all.

Does telling someone hes ignorant make you feel above him? I can respect that. I like the word.

if you have the answer, provide it; otherwise you got nothing.

I have the answer but i would get banned if i provided it.


Sheriff of milwaukee already answered this question. Single parent households, terrible parenting, terrible schools and overall lack of personal accountability in the community. As to why black people commit crime disproportionately, it's a cultural thing that many of them are trapped in. Hard to escape though, if you have no dad, and no adequate schooling.


Just because a black sheriff said it doesn't mean it wasn't racist, stupid, and wrong. Single Parent households, terrible schools have little to nothing to do with black people's culture, that's a result of white culture. Remember it was white culture that trafficked them to the US, stripped them of their language and culture, then killed them if they learned to read, write, swim, etc...

It was white culture that segregated them, put them in the crappiest places they could (by legally and illegally forbidding them from living places, and confiscating their land),

As for crime statistics, you have to be pretty gawddamn dense to think they paint an accurate picture of who's committing crimes

It would lead you to think things like rich white people don't do cocaine, when we know they consume more than their fair share. Like the video I posted earlier where he says "black people don't carry spring assisted knives more than white people", but if you looked at BPD's booking sheets you'd swear they all do.

That's because if you have a white guy walking down the street and a black guy walking down the street, both with a knife, only one of them is going to get stopped unconstitutionally, violated again when he is searched, then if he stands up for his rights and tries to inform the officer he's violating the law, he get's an asswhoopin and arrested for resisting arrest (for the knife the cop didn't know about until violating his constitutional rights 2x).

If by the off chance the cop does stop and arrest the white guy, it's far more likely the cop gets a reprimand and the guy's case gets dismissed. Meanwhile the black guy is looking at a longer sentence and no defender to point out his rights were violated multiple times invalidating the arrest.

White culture destroyed black culture, murdered anyone who tried to bring it back, segregated black people, abused them, stole from them, denied them their rights, imprisoned their fathers, still segregating their education, and as I showed in Milwaukee, still segregating cities, racist policing, and so much more crap...

It's certainly a culture issue, but it's white culture that's the problem.

And beacuse its not an issue for white people white people don't feel any need to change their culture so nothing changes and it just keeps getting worse for black people.

Congrats we've figured out racism everyone. We can stop talking about why this keeps happening in america now.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24504 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-15 02:52:55
August 15 2016 02:33 GMT
#94810
On August 15 2016 11:23 travis wrote:
GH wtf is white culture?


parity of black culture?

On August 15 2016 11:32 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 11:06 GreenHorizons wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:06 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:05 zlefin wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:03 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 08:57 zlefin wrote:
nuked -> No, it's not, which means you either didn't read the question properly, or don't know what you're talking about remotely, given how complex the sourcing of social issues is.
you also wouldn't get banned for being generically not pc.

so your statement is simply ignorant nonsense.
and if you think you know the answer, you should post it.

Its not complex at all.

Does telling someone hes ignorant make you feel above him? I can respect that. I like the word.

if you have the answer, provide it; otherwise you got nothing.

I have the answer but i would get banned if i provided it.


Sheriff of milwaukee already answered this question. Single parent households, terrible parenting, terrible schools and overall lack of personal accountability in the community. As to why black people commit crime disproportionately, it's a cultural thing that many of them are trapped in. Hard to escape though, if you have no dad, and no adequate schooling.


Just because a black sheriff said it doesn't mean it wasn't racist, stupid, and wrong. Single Parent households, terrible schools have little to nothing to do with black people's culture, that's a result of white culture. Remember it was white culture that trafficked them to the US, stripped them of their language and culture, then killed them if they learned to read, write, swim, etc...

It was white culture that segregated them, put them in the crappiest places they could (by legally and illegally forbidding them from living places, and confiscating their land),

As for crime statistics, you have to be pretty gawddamn dense to think they paint an accurate picture of who's committing crimes

It would lead you to think things like rich white people don't do cocaine, when we know they consume more than their fair share. Like the video I posted earlier where he says "black people don't carry spring assisted knives more than white people", but if you looked at BPD's booking sheets you'd swear they all do.

That's because if you have a white guy walking down the street and a black guy walking down the street, both with a knife, only one of them is going to get stopped unconstitutionally, violated again when he is searched, then if he stands up for his rights and tries to inform the officer he's violating the law, he get's an asswhoopin and arrested for resisting arrest (for the knife the cop didn't know about until violating his constitutional rights 2x).

If by the off chance the cop does stop and arrest the white guy, it's far more likely the cop gets a reprimand and the guy's case gets dismissed. Meanwhile the black guy is looking at a longer sentence and no defender to point out his rights were violated multiple times invalidating the arrest.

White culture destroyed black culture, murdered anyone who tried to bring it back, segregated black people, abused them, stole from them, denied them their rights, imprisoned their fathers, still segregating their education, and as I showed in Milwaukee, still segregating cities, racist policing, and so much more crap...

It's certainly a culture issue, but it's white culture that's the problem.

And beacuse its not an issue for white people white people don't feel any need to change their culture so nothing changes and it just keeps getting worse for black people.

Congrats we've figured out racism everyone. We can stop talking about why this keeps happening in america now.


Hence figuring out ways to make it an issue for white people. So far they just had their commute slightly elongated and they damn near lost their minds, one can hope one day they can imagine what they would be doing if they had to live under the oppression the people of Baltimore, Ferguson, Chicago, Milwaukee, etc... I'll give them a hint, it's worse than sitting in traffic because people are demanding their constitutional rights, and too many people are too busy complaining about the traffic or the method of blocking traffic instead of standing with them demanding they get the same constitutional protections they themselves enjoy.

Like if all the white people who say they care about the constitution and a tyrannical government actually just stood up for the constitutional rights of the people in the cities I showed have been denying them of certain citizens, this stuff would already be well on it's way to getting solved.

Instead we all pretend like they aren't being racist, rather than admit that more than any old youtube video of people chanting for dead cops in NYC, it is those people who are standing in the way of progress, they are the reason people are resorting to "riots" and protests, they are the main obstacle preventing us from not having to talk about this.

The camps are where they are, the people who are supposed to be seeing this down the line and keeping it honest are the people who claim to want to protect the constitution and constitutional rights of Americans. If they honestly looked at city after city where the DOJ is finding that police departments habitually violate people's rights it should be a no brainer. What's preventing them from getting involved decades ago is racism (white supremacy really), plain and simple.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5082 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-15 02:39:36
August 15 2016 02:38 GMT
#94811
On August 15 2016 11:06 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:06 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:05 zlefin wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:03 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 08:57 zlefin wrote:
nuked -> No, it's not, which means you either didn't read the question properly, or don't know what you're talking about remotely, given how complex the sourcing of social issues is.
you also wouldn't get banned for being generically not pc.

so your statement is simply ignorant nonsense.
and if you think you know the answer, you should post it.

Its not complex at all.

Does telling someone hes ignorant make you feel above him? I can respect that. I like the word.

if you have the answer, provide it; otherwise you got nothing.

I have the answer but i would get banned if i provided it.


Sheriff of milwaukee already answered this question. Single parent households, terrible parenting, terrible schools and overall lack of personal accountability in the community. As to why black people commit crime disproportionately, it's a cultural thing that many of them are trapped in. Hard to escape though, if you have no dad, and no adequate schooling.


Just because a black sheriff said it doesn't mean it wasn't racist, stupid, and wrong. Single Parent households, terrible schools have little to nothing to do with black people's culture, that's a result of white culture. Remember it was white culture that trafficked them to the US, stripped them of their language and culture, then killed them if they learned to read, write, swim, etc...

It was white culture that segregated them, put them in the crappiest places they could (by legally and illegally forbidding them from living places, and confiscating their land),

As for crime statistics, you have to be pretty gawddamn dense to think they paint an accurate picture of who's committing crimes

It would lead you to think things like rich white people don't do cocaine, when we know they consume more than their fair share. Like the video I posted earlier where he says "black people don't carry spring assisted knives more than white people", but if you looked at BPD's booking sheets you'd swear they all do.

That's because if you have a white guy walking down the street and a black guy walking down the street, both with a knife, only one of them is going to get stopped unconstitutionally, violated again when he is searched, then if he stands up for his rights and tries to inform the officer he's violating the law, he get's an asswhoopin and arrested for resisting arrest (for the knife the cop didn't know about until violating his constitutional rights 2x).

If by the off chance the cop does stop and arrest the white guy, it's far more likely the cop gets a reprimand and the guy's case gets dismissed. Meanwhile the black guy is looking at a longer sentence and no defender to point out his rights were violated multiple times invalidating the arrest.

White culture destroyed black culture, murdered anyone who tried to bring it back, segregated black people, abused them, stole from them, denied them their rights, imprisoned their fathers, still segregating their education, and as I showed in Milwaukee, still segregating cities, racist policing, and so much more crap...

It's certainly a culture issue, but it's white culture that's the problem.


Maybe all the white people are doing meth. Only something like 3% of meth trafficking sentences are for black offenders.

There is more to these statistics that meets the eye. If we are going to use these simply stated, no-context numbers as parts of our arguments.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5082 Posts
August 15 2016 02:44 GMT
#94812
On August 15 2016 10:41 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/CLewandowski_/status/764989713149267968


I like how it's Lewandowski that's tweeting this out, lol. They really do hate each other.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 15 2016 02:46 GMT
#94813
On August 15 2016 10:44 Wolfstan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 09:15 farvacola wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:06 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:05 zlefin wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:03 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 08:57 zlefin wrote:
nuked -> No, it's not, which means you either didn't read the question properly, or don't know what you're talking about remotely, given how complex the sourcing of social issues is.
you also wouldn't get banned for being generically not pc.

so your statement is simply ignorant nonsense.
and if you think you know the answer, you should post it.

Its not complex at all.

Does telling someone hes ignorant make you feel above him? I can respect that. I like the word.

if you have the answer, provide it; otherwise you got nothing.

I have the answer but i would get banned if i provided it.


Sheriff of milwaukee already answered this question. Single parent households, terrible parenting, terrible schools and overall lack of personal accountability in the community. As to why black people commit crime disproportionately, it's a cultural thing that many of them are trapped in. Hard to escape though, if you have no dad, and no adequate schooling.

Lack of personal accountability led to some of the most extreme segregation in the nation?

lol

Are there any segregation graphics for major Canadian cities? I dont feel segregation is a problem up here but im open to data.

Native segregation is still a major issue (though some of that can be attributed to their self-governance), Chinese in BC was a historical problem, Metis in the prairie regions. Not sure about the East.

Not counting the tendencies of immigrants to congregate and form communities, of course.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-11 19:27:46
August 15 2016 02:52 GMT
#94814
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
August 15 2016 03:02 GMT
#94815
On August 15 2016 11:33 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 11:23 travis wrote:
GH wtf is white culture?


parity of black culture?

Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 11:32 Sermokala wrote:
On August 15 2016 11:06 GreenHorizons wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:06 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:05 zlefin wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:03 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 08:57 zlefin wrote:
nuked -> No, it's not, which means you either didn't read the question properly, or don't know what you're talking about remotely, given how complex the sourcing of social issues is.
you also wouldn't get banned for being generically not pc.

so your statement is simply ignorant nonsense.
and if you think you know the answer, you should post it.

Its not complex at all.

Does telling someone hes ignorant make you feel above him? I can respect that. I like the word.

if you have the answer, provide it; otherwise you got nothing.

I have the answer but i would get banned if i provided it.


Sheriff of milwaukee already answered this question. Single parent households, terrible parenting, terrible schools and overall lack of personal accountability in the community. As to why black people commit crime disproportionately, it's a cultural thing that many of them are trapped in. Hard to escape though, if you have no dad, and no adequate schooling.


Just because a black sheriff said it doesn't mean it wasn't racist, stupid, and wrong. Single Parent households, terrible schools have little to nothing to do with black people's culture, that's a result of white culture. Remember it was white culture that trafficked them to the US, stripped them of their language and culture, then killed them if they learned to read, write, swim, etc...

It was white culture that segregated them, put them in the crappiest places they could (by legally and illegally forbidding them from living places, and confiscating their land),

As for crime statistics, you have to be pretty gawddamn dense to think they paint an accurate picture of who's committing crimes

It would lead you to think things like rich white people don't do cocaine, when we know they consume more than their fair share. Like the video I posted earlier where he says "black people don't carry spring assisted knives more than white people", but if you looked at BPD's booking sheets you'd swear they all do.

That's because if you have a white guy walking down the street and a black guy walking down the street, both with a knife, only one of them is going to get stopped unconstitutionally, violated again when he is searched, then if he stands up for his rights and tries to inform the officer he's violating the law, he get's an asswhoopin and arrested for resisting arrest (for the knife the cop didn't know about until violating his constitutional rights 2x).

If by the off chance the cop does stop and arrest the white guy, it's far more likely the cop gets a reprimand and the guy's case gets dismissed. Meanwhile the black guy is looking at a longer sentence and no defender to point out his rights were violated multiple times invalidating the arrest.

White culture destroyed black culture, murdered anyone who tried to bring it back, segregated black people, abused them, stole from them, denied them their rights, imprisoned their fathers, still segregating their education, and as I showed in Milwaukee, still segregating cities, racist policing, and so much more crap...

It's certainly a culture issue, but it's white culture that's the problem.

And beacuse its not an issue for white people white people don't feel any need to change their culture so nothing changes and it just keeps getting worse for black people.

Congrats we've figured out racism everyone. We can stop talking about why this keeps happening in america now.


Hence figuring out ways to make it an issue for white people. So far they just had their commute slightly elongated and they damn near lost their minds, one can hope one day they can imagine what they would be doing if they had to live under the oppression the people of Baltimore, Ferguson, Chicago, Milwaukee, etc... I'll give them a hint, it's worse than sitting in traffic because people are demanding their constitutional rights, and too many people are too busy complaining about the traffic or the method of blocking traffic instead of standing with them demanding they get the same constitutional protections they themselves enjoy.

Like if all the white people who say they care about the constitution and a tyrannical government actually just stood up for the constitutional rights of the people in the cities I showed have been denying them of certain citizens, this stuff would already be well on it's way to getting solved.

Instead we all pretend like they aren't being racist, rather than admit that more than any old youtube video of people chanting for dead cops in NYC, it is those people who are standing in the way of progress, they are the reason people are resorting to "riots" and protests, they are the main obstacle preventing us from not having to talk about this.

The camps are where they are, the people who are supposed to be seeing this down the line and keeping it honest are the people who claim to want to protect the constitution and constitutional rights of Americans. If they honestly looked at city after city where the DOJ is finding that police departments habitually violate people's rights it should be a no brainer. What's preventing them from getting involved decades ago is racism (white supremacy really), plain and simple.

You're just repeating what I said but in much longer form. Acording to you black people problems are beacuse of white people and beacuse its not a white person problem it won't get fixed. Burning down black communities and pissing off white people doesn't change the problem it just makes black people look wors and feed into the stories racists say to stop progress.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24504 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-15 03:53:51
August 15 2016 03:13 GMT
#94816
On August 15 2016 12:02 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 11:33 GreenHorizons wrote:
On August 15 2016 11:23 travis wrote:
GH wtf is white culture?


parity of black culture?

On August 15 2016 11:32 Sermokala wrote:
On August 15 2016 11:06 GreenHorizons wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:06 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:05 zlefin wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:03 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 08:57 zlefin wrote:
nuked -> No, it's not, which means you either didn't read the question properly, or don't know what you're talking about remotely, given how complex the sourcing of social issues is.
you also wouldn't get banned for being generically not pc.

so your statement is simply ignorant nonsense.
and if you think you know the answer, you should post it.

Its not complex at all.

Does telling someone hes ignorant make you feel above him? I can respect that. I like the word.

if you have the answer, provide it; otherwise you got nothing.

I have the answer but i would get banned if i provided it.


Sheriff of milwaukee already answered this question. Single parent households, terrible parenting, terrible schools and overall lack of personal accountability in the community. As to why black people commit crime disproportionately, it's a cultural thing that many of them are trapped in. Hard to escape though, if you have no dad, and no adequate schooling.


Just because a black sheriff said it doesn't mean it wasn't racist, stupid, and wrong. Single Parent households, terrible schools have little to nothing to do with black people's culture, that's a result of white culture. Remember it was white culture that trafficked them to the US, stripped them of their language and culture, then killed them if they learned to read, write, swim, etc...

It was white culture that segregated them, put them in the crappiest places they could (by legally and illegally forbidding them from living places, and confiscating their land),

As for crime statistics, you have to be pretty gawddamn dense to think they paint an accurate picture of who's committing crimes

It would lead you to think things like rich white people don't do cocaine, when we know they consume more than their fair share. Like the video I posted earlier where he says "black people don't carry spring assisted knives more than white people", but if you looked at BPD's booking sheets you'd swear they all do.

That's because if you have a white guy walking down the street and a black guy walking down the street, both with a knife, only one of them is going to get stopped unconstitutionally, violated again when he is searched, then if he stands up for his rights and tries to inform the officer he's violating the law, he get's an asswhoopin and arrested for resisting arrest (for the knife the cop didn't know about until violating his constitutional rights 2x).

If by the off chance the cop does stop and arrest the white guy, it's far more likely the cop gets a reprimand and the guy's case gets dismissed. Meanwhile the black guy is looking at a longer sentence and no defender to point out his rights were violated multiple times invalidating the arrest.

White culture destroyed black culture, murdered anyone who tried to bring it back, segregated black people, abused them, stole from them, denied them their rights, imprisoned their fathers, still segregating their education, and as I showed in Milwaukee, still segregating cities, racist policing, and so much more crap...

It's certainly a culture issue, but it's white culture that's the problem.

And beacuse its not an issue for white people white people don't feel any need to change their culture so nothing changes and it just keeps getting worse for black people.

Congrats we've figured out racism everyone. We can stop talking about why this keeps happening in america now.


Hence figuring out ways to make it an issue for white people. So far they just had their commute slightly elongated and they damn near lost their minds, one can hope one day they can imagine what they would be doing if they had to live under the oppression the people of Baltimore, Ferguson, Chicago, Milwaukee, etc... I'll give them a hint, it's worse than sitting in traffic because people are demanding their constitutional rights, and too many people are too busy complaining about the traffic or the method of blocking traffic instead of standing with them demanding they get the same constitutional protections they themselves enjoy.

Like if all the white people who say they care about the constitution and a tyrannical government actually just stood up for the constitutional rights of the people in the cities I showed have been denying them of certain citizens, this stuff would already be well on it's way to getting solved.

Instead we all pretend like they aren't being racist, rather than admit that more than any old youtube video of people chanting for dead cops in NYC, it is those people who are standing in the way of progress, they are the reason people are resorting to "riots" and protests, they are the main obstacle preventing us from not having to talk about this.

The camps are where they are, the people who are supposed to be seeing this down the line and keeping it honest are the people who claim to want to protect the constitution and constitutional rights of Americans. If they honestly looked at city after city where the DOJ is finding that police departments habitually violate people's rights it should be a no brainer. What's preventing them from getting involved decades ago is racism (white supremacy really), plain and simple.

You're just repeating what I said but in much longer form. Acording to you black people problems are beacuse of white people and beacuse its not a white person problem it won't get fixed. Burning down black communities and pissing off white people doesn't change the problem it just makes black people look wors and feed into the stories racists say to stop progress.


How many black owned businesses do you think are getting burned down in those communities?

We had decades of people not "burning down black communities (or just white people anyway) and pissing off white people" It doesn't work any better at all. That's just a story people tell themselves, usually to make excuses for their racists peers.

EDIT: I know people have a short memory, but people were saying things like "racism is over we have a black AG and President" not long ago at all. People routinely dismissed the notion that police were often lying in their reports, that they were regularly violating people's rights, that police brutality was still happening and disproportionately to poor and black people, and many other things that people are pretending have always been accepted as common knowledge.

That's not a result of people politely requesting white America do something about the rampant violation of PoC's rights. That's a result of shoving it in their face over and over at every level of engagement from polite to obnoxious to violent.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-15 03:17:03
August 15 2016 03:16 GMT
#94817
How did I only just now see this :
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44439 Posts
August 15 2016 04:01 GMT
#94818
On August 15 2016 12:16 Nevuk wrote:
How did I only just now see this :
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/449525268529815552

Because it was camouflaged amid a thousand other equally stupid tweets, any one of which would have ended the presidential campaign of any other candidate.

Enjoy
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/4sax5a/we_just_broke_the_record_for_hottest_year_9/d58849s
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NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
August 15 2016 05:04 GMT
#94819
On August 15 2016 11:06 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:06 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:05 zlefin wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:03 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 08:57 zlefin wrote:
nuked -> No, it's not, which means you either didn't read the question properly, or don't know what you're talking about remotely, given how complex the sourcing of social issues is.
you also wouldn't get banned for being generically not pc.

so your statement is simply ignorant nonsense.
and if you think you know the answer, you should post it.

Its not complex at all.

Does telling someone hes ignorant make you feel above him? I can respect that. I like the word.

if you have the answer, provide it; otherwise you got nothing.

I have the answer but i would get banned if i provided it.


Sheriff of milwaukee already answered this question. Single parent households, terrible parenting, terrible schools and overall lack of personal accountability in the community. As to why black people commit crime disproportionately, it's a cultural thing that many of them are trapped in. Hard to escape though, if you have no dad, and no adequate schooling.


Just because a black sheriff said it doesn't mean it wasn't racist, stupid, and wrong. Single Parent households, terrible schools have little to nothing to do with black people's culture, that's a result of white culture. Remember it was white culture that trafficked them to the US, stripped them of their language and culture, then killed them if they learned to read, write, swim, etc...

It was white culture that segregated them, put them in the crappiest places they could (by legally and illegally forbidding them from living places, and confiscating their land),

As for crime statistics, you have to be pretty gawddamn dense to think they paint an accurate picture of who's committing crimes

It would lead you to think things like rich white people don't do cocaine, when we know they consume more than their fair share. Like the video I posted earlier where he says "black people don't carry spring assisted knives more than white people", but if you looked at BPD's booking sheets you'd swear they all do.

That's because if you have a white guy walking down the street and a black guy walking down the street, both with a knife, only one of them is going to get stopped unconstitutionally, violated again when he is searched, then if he stands up for his rights and tries to inform the officer he's violating the law, he get's an asswhoopin and arrested for resisting arrest (for the knife the cop didn't know about until violating his constitutional rights 2x).

If by the off chance the cop does stop and arrest the white guy, it's far more likely the cop gets a reprimand and the guy's case gets dismissed. Meanwhile the black guy is looking at a longer sentence and no defender to point out his rights were violated multiple times invalidating the arrest.

White culture destroyed black culture, murdered anyone who tried to bring it back, segregated black people, abused them, stole from them, denied them their rights, imprisoned their fathers, still segregating their education, and as I showed in Milwaukee, still segregating cities, racist policing, and so much more crap...

It's certainly a culture issue, but it's white culture that's the problem.

Release those white guilt chains brother.
sorry for dem one liners
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-15 05:20:55
August 15 2016 05:05 GMT
#94820
On August 15 2016 11:46 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 10:44 Wolfstan wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:15 farvacola wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:06 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:05 zlefin wrote:
On August 15 2016 09:03 NukeD wrote:
On August 15 2016 08:57 zlefin wrote:
nuked -> No, it's not, which means you either didn't read the question properly, or don't know what you're talking about remotely, given how complex the sourcing of social issues is.
you also wouldn't get banned for being generically not pc.

so your statement is simply ignorant nonsense.
and if you think you know the answer, you should post it.

Its not complex at all.

Does telling someone hes ignorant make you feel above him? I can respect that. I like the word.

if you have the answer, provide it; otherwise you got nothing.

I have the answer but i would get banned if i provided it.


Sheriff of milwaukee already answered this question. Single parent households, terrible parenting, terrible schools and overall lack of personal accountability in the community. As to why black people commit crime disproportionately, it's a cultural thing that many of them are trapped in. Hard to escape though, if you have no dad, and no adequate schooling.

Lack of personal accountability led to some of the most extreme segregation in the nation?

lol

Are there any segregation graphics for major Canadian cities? I dont feel segregation is a problem up here but im open to data.

Native segregation is still a major issue (though some of that can be attributed to their self-governance), Chinese in BC was a historical problem, Metis in the prairie regions. Not sure about the East.

Not counting the tendencies of immigrants to congregate and form communities, of course.


True about our First Nations issues. On a related note I remember answering a census question that im a Transgender Caucasian Black First Nations Jedi Kbight minority. Maybe its assholes like me are the reason that Canada doesn't have as accurate data about race relations. I guess its just white privilege coming through by rebelling when people try to shoehorn me into a demographic. Other than our census though I dont think I've ever had to put race or orientation on any forms or ID.

Do Americans have boxes on forms for race and sezual orientation? (arrest reports, birth certificates, government employee files? ) I'd assume it would be unconstitutional for that data to be mandatory. While I'm sure it helps for studies and such it just doesnt pass the smell test for me. I hope in the future that information is irrelevant.

As I really value the fundamental freedom of mobility I'm curious how segregation still happens. Do you feel its housing prices so they align with socioeconomic status? Or services like banks with chinese signs, mosques in area? Or word of mouth/ intergenerational clustering (like living down the street from your parents?)
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