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They can't win a presidential election perhaps, but they can keep congress locked up with midterm elections. Which to many of them is a win. You'll never actually be a bride yourself because you're a hideous freak. But if you cock block everyone around they'll be just as miserable as you so its fine!
How on earth did she get this job? She doesn't even pronounce onus correctly and completely flew off-message.
Although valid, those were not the things that made me wonder how she got the job. It is the long list of still viewable tweets that very clearly point to her being racist and homophobic.
She's decently pretty, doesn't look like a white female, and apparently has links to the Tea Party. I don't think Trump's team looked much beyond that, especially considering she was hired at the very beginning of his campaign.
Pretty much my thoughts. Also it appears at this point that everyone in Trump's sphere is suicidal so its not like there's anyone else to take over the job from her.
On August 04 2016 00:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 04 2016 00:09 WhiteDog wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:59 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:50 Doodsmack wrote: The idea that Trump makes those jabs at Ryan and McCain out of petty revenge, at such an important time...and people actually want this guy to be president? He is a petulant child with no understanding of the issues.
It's not the media, it's Trump. To claim otherwise is dishonest.
Well he will get in history book as a warning : this is what happens when a whole party plays the demagogy card and disregards facts and reality for a whole decade.
The GOP has been playing with fire for way, way, way too long.
The question is not whether or not Trump will be elected (he won't) or damage for a long time the GOP (he already has), but if Republican leaders are gonna learn anything from that utter fiasco.
Are you the one we call to get naked pictures of Hillary ?
Do you have a point in this thread or are you just there to play the cool nihilistic againt-the-system smartass french kid?
The great thing of the internet is that contrarily to people i talk with in paris, there are much less of those.
It's not my role on this forum to tell you what to do and how to behave, but don't expect people to take you seriously if you go around with such a vain approach.
Anyway. Back on topic.
How am I a nihilist ? You spend your time saying Trump is a fool, just like you were criticizing Sanders before. If your entire point is that people who run against Hillary should behave like Hillary and her campaign wants them to, one post would be sufficient.
Whitedog, your posts do have this tone of dethatched pleasure at watching people struggle to deal with their nation’s populist movements. As with the Brexit, the close we get to the vote, the more personal this becomes for people. I have said it before, but we have close friends that are terrified of Trump. Their children are being told by other students that Trump will deport them. So if you bring the snark, don’t be shocked when people fire back.
That's maybe because I disagree with the idea that populism is bad in itself. What permit those populist figures to gain traction is the lack of discussion and clarification over subjects. I remember CCStealthBlue saying a few pages ago that the syrian refugees that came to the US were merely women and children because it's difficult to get here ; that's the kind of clarification that is very beneficial to a political debates as it tends to calm fears. Funnily enough, the Clinton campaign never even tried to propose such clarifications, nor any kind of plan to respond to the million of people that expressed their desire to vote Trump. Instead of that, people are showing articles and videos about how Trump might be insane, how he is bad for america, how he might nuke everybody for fun and how he is hurting the GOP. How has this Khan guy contributed to anything from a political standpoint by the way ?
Trump is one of the most popular candidates the GOP had for a long time, he made serious change in regard to traditional GOP positions in various topics. And, seriously speaking, how can he be hurting the GOP more than the tea party ? Just saying that no matter who wins the election, the underlying issues that placed Trump in the place he is now will remain, and the anger that people feel towards their elites will continue to grow as long as issues are not adressed.
And I don't get how you get my tone through those comments but well.
On August 04 2016 00:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 04 2016 00:09 WhiteDog wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:59 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:50 Doodsmack wrote: The idea that Trump makes those jabs at Ryan and McCain out of petty revenge, at such an important time...and people actually want this guy to be president? He is a petulant child with no understanding of the issues.
It's not the media, it's Trump. To claim otherwise is dishonest.
Well he will get in history book as a warning : this is what happens when a whole party plays the demagogy card and disregards facts and reality for a whole decade.
The GOP has been playing with fire for way, way, way too long.
The question is not whether or not Trump will be elected (he won't) or damage for a long time the GOP (he already has), but if Republican leaders are gonna learn anything from that utter fiasco.
Are you the one we call to get naked pictures of Hillary ?
Do you have a point in this thread or are you just there to play the cool nihilistic againt-the-system smartass french kid?
The great thing of the internet is that contrarily to people i talk with in paris, there are much less of those.
It's not my role on this forum to tell you what to do and how to behave, but don't expect people to take you seriously if you go around with such a vain approach.
Anyway. Back on topic.
How am I a nihilist ? You spend your time saying Trump is a fool, just like you were criticizing Sanders before. If your entire point is that people who run against Hillary should behave like Hillary and her campaign wants them to, one post would be sufficient.
Whitedog, your posts do have this tone of dethatched pleasure at watching people struggle to deal with their nation’s populist movements. As with the Brexit, the close we get to the vote, the more personal this becomes for people. I have said it before, but we have close friends that are terrified of Trump. Their children are being told by other students that Trump will deport them. So if you bring the snark, don’t be shocked when people fire back.
That's maybe because I disagree with the idea that populism is bad in itself. What permit those populist figures to gain traction is the lack of discussion and clarification over subjects. I remember CCStealthBlue saying a few pages ago that the syrian refugees that came to the US were merely women and children because it's difficult to get here ; that's the kind of clarification that is very beneficial to a political debates as it tends to calm fears. Funnily enough, the Clinton campaign never even tried to propose such clarifications, nor any kind of plan to respond to the million of people that expressed their desire to vote Trump. Instead of that, people are showing articles and videos about how Trump might be insane, how he is bad for america, how he might nuke everybody for fun and how he is hurting the GOP. How has this Khan guy contributed to anything from a political standpoint ?
Trump is one of the most popular candidates the GOP had for a long time, he made serious change in regard to traditional GOP positions in various topics. And, seriously speaking, how can he be hurting the GOP more than the tea party ? Just saying that no matter who wins the election, the underlying issues that placed Trump in the place he is now will remain, and the anger that people feel towards their elites will continue to grow as long as issues are not adressed.
And how I don't get how you get my tone through those comments but well.
All these things are completely valid and good points for discussion. But as I pointed out, it’s less what you are saying and more how you are saying it. This is not theoretical for some people. The populism that you believe isn’t harmful could result in their ability to get married being limited or taken away.
And in the case of populism, I consider it to be the opposite of leadership. There are plenty of problems in the US, but feeding into a fear of government and the outsider is not responsible. The Tea Party got to where they are by demonizing government and compromise. And that type of populism has not place in a democracy.
With yet another misogynistic comment, more parody of the military, and a skin so thin that even a baby gets under it, I'm hoping that eventually more and more people will realize that voting for Trump is just simply unacceptable. (Although, to be fair, Donald Trump was probably just jealous of how big the baby's hands were.)
On August 04 2016 00:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 04 2016 00:09 WhiteDog wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:59 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:50 Doodsmack wrote: The idea that Trump makes those jabs at Ryan and McCain out of petty revenge, at such an important time...and people actually want this guy to be president? He is a petulant child with no understanding of the issues.
It's not the media, it's Trump. To claim otherwise is dishonest.
Well he will get in history book as a warning : this is what happens when a whole party plays the demagogy card and disregards facts and reality for a whole decade.
The GOP has been playing with fire for way, way, way too long.
The question is not whether or not Trump will be elected (he won't) or damage for a long time the GOP (he already has), but if Republican leaders are gonna learn anything from that utter fiasco.
Are you the one we call to get naked pictures of Hillary ?
Do you have a point in this thread or are you just there to play the cool nihilistic againt-the-system smartass french kid?
The great thing of the internet is that contrarily to people i talk with in paris, there are much less of those.
It's not my role on this forum to tell you what to do and how to behave, but don't expect people to take you seriously if you go around with such a vain approach.
Anyway. Back on topic.
How am I a nihilist ? You spend your time saying Trump is a fool, just like you were criticizing Sanders before. If your entire point is that people who run against Hillary should behave like Hillary and her campaign wants them to, one post would be sufficient.
Whitedog, your posts do have this tone of dethatched pleasure at watching people struggle to deal with their nation’s populist movements. As with the Brexit, the close we get to the vote, the more personal this becomes for people. I have said it before, but we have close friends that are terrified of Trump. Their children are being told by other students that Trump will deport them. So if you bring the snark, don’t be shocked when people fire back.
That's maybe because I disagree with the idea that populism is bad in itself. What permit those populist figures to gain traction is the lack of discussion and clarification over subjects. I remember CCStealthBlue saying a few pages ago that the syrian refugees that came to the US were merely women and children because it's difficult to get here ; that's the kind of clarification that is very beneficial to a political debates as it tends to calm fears. Funnily enough, the Clinton campaign never even tried to propose such clarifications, nor any kind of plan to respond to the million of people that expressed their desire to vote Trump. Instead of that, people are showing articles and videos about how Trump might be insane, how he is bad for america, how he might nuke everybody for fun and how he is hurting the GOP. How has this Khan guy contributed to anything from a political standpoint by the way ?
Trump is one of the most popular candidates the GOP had for a long time, he made serious change in regard to traditional GOP positions in various topics. And, seriously speaking, how can he be hurting the GOP more than the tea party ? Just saying that no matter who wins the election, the underlying issues that placed Trump in the place he is now will remain, and the anger that people feel towards their elites will continue to grow as long as issues are not adressed.
And I don't get how you get my tone through those comments but well.
I strongly disagree. The Brexit campaign showed the same issue. You can debunk statements over and over again, you can show facts and the response is "People have enough of experts".
These people do not care about issues or policies. They care about feelings and being pandered to.
On August 04 2016 00:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 04 2016 00:09 WhiteDog wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:59 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:50 Doodsmack wrote: The idea that Trump makes those jabs at Ryan and McCain out of petty revenge, at such an important time...and people actually want this guy to be president? He is a petulant child with no understanding of the issues.
It's not the media, it's Trump. To claim otherwise is dishonest.
Well he will get in history book as a warning : this is what happens when a whole party plays the demagogy card and disregards facts and reality for a whole decade.
The GOP has been playing with fire for way, way, way too long.
The question is not whether or not Trump will be elected (he won't) or damage for a long time the GOP (he already has), but if Republican leaders are gonna learn anything from that utter fiasco.
Are you the one we call to get naked pictures of Hillary ?
Do you have a point in this thread or are you just there to play the cool nihilistic againt-the-system smartass french kid?
The great thing of the internet is that contrarily to people i talk with in paris, there are much less of those.
It's not my role on this forum to tell you what to do and how to behave, but don't expect people to take you seriously if you go around with such a vain approach.
Anyway. Back on topic.
How am I a nihilist ? You spend your time saying Trump is a fool, just like you were criticizing Sanders before. If your entire point is that people who run against Hillary should behave like Hillary and her campaign wants them to, one post would be sufficient.
Whitedog, your posts do have this tone of dethatched pleasure at watching people struggle to deal with their nation’s populist movements. As with the Brexit, the close we get to the vote, the more personal this becomes for people. I have said it before, but we have close friends that are terrified of Trump. Their children are being told by other students that Trump will deport them. So if you bring the snark, don’t be shocked when people fire back.
That's maybe because I disagree with the idea that populism is bad in itself. What permit those populist figures to gain traction is the lack of discussion and clarification over subjects. I remember CCStealthBlue saying a few pages ago that the syrian refugees that came to the US were merely women and children because it's difficult to get here ; that's the kind of clarification that is very beneficial to a political debates as it tends to calm fears. Funnily enough, the Clinton campaign never even tried to propose such clarifications, nor any kind of plan to respond to the million of people that expressed their desire to vote Trump. Instead of that, people are showing articles and videos about how Trump might be insane, how he is bad for america, how he might nuke everybody for fun and how he is hurting the GOP. How has this Khan guy contributed to anything from a political standpoint by the way ?
Trump is one of the most popular candidates the GOP had for a long time, he made serious change in regard to traditional GOP positions in various topics. And, seriously speaking, how can he be hurting the GOP more than the tea party ? Just saying that no matter who wins the election, the underlying issues that placed Trump in the place he is now will remain, and the anger that people feel towards their elites will continue to grow as long as issues are not adressed.
And I don't get how you get my tone through those comments but well.
I strongly disagree. The Brexit campaign showed the same issue. You can debunk statements over and over again, you can show facts and the response is "People have enough of experts".
These people do not care about issues or policies. They care about feelings and being pandered to.
Nothing was debunked in regards to europe, all they did was trying to find figures and expertise to discard the feelings of the population. They never agreed that europe is flawed, they tried to argue that it was beneficial overall, and failed to reform europe for 20 years. Result is europe is virtually dead.
On August 04 2016 00:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 04 2016 00:09 WhiteDog wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:59 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:50 Doodsmack wrote: The idea that Trump makes those jabs at Ryan and McCain out of petty revenge, at such an important time...and people actually want this guy to be president? He is a petulant child with no understanding of the issues.
It's not the media, it's Trump. To claim otherwise is dishonest.
Well he will get in history book as a warning : this is what happens when a whole party plays the demagogy card and disregards facts and reality for a whole decade.
The GOP has been playing with fire for way, way, way too long.
The question is not whether or not Trump will be elected (he won't) or damage for a long time the GOP (he already has), but if Republican leaders are gonna learn anything from that utter fiasco.
Are you the one we call to get naked pictures of Hillary ?
Do you have a point in this thread or are you just there to play the cool nihilistic againt-the-system smartass french kid?
The great thing of the internet is that contrarily to people i talk with in paris, there are much less of those.
It's not my role on this forum to tell you what to do and how to behave, but don't expect people to take you seriously if you go around with such a vain approach.
Anyway. Back on topic.
How am I a nihilist ? You spend your time saying Trump is a fool, just like you were criticizing Sanders before. If your entire point is that people who run against Hillary should behave like Hillary and her campaign wants them to, one post would be sufficient.
Whitedog, your posts do have this tone of dethatched pleasure at watching people struggle to deal with their nation’s populist movements. As with the Brexit, the close we get to the vote, the more personal this becomes for people. I have said it before, but we have close friends that are terrified of Trump. Their children are being told by other students that Trump will deport them. So if you bring the snark, don’t be shocked when people fire back.
That's maybe because I disagree with the idea that populism is bad in itself. What permit those populist figures to gain traction is the lack of discussion and clarification over subjects. I remember CCStealthBlue saying a few pages ago that the syrian refugees that came to the US were merely women and children because it's difficult to get here ; that's the kind of clarification that is very beneficial to a political debates as it tends to calm fears. Funnily enough, the Clinton campaign never even tried to propose such clarifications, nor any kind of plan to respond to the million of people that expressed their desire to vote Trump. Instead of that, people are showing articles and videos about how Trump might be insane, how he is bad for america, how he might nuke everybody for fun and how he is hurting the GOP. How has this Khan guy contributed to anything from a political standpoint by the way ?
Trump is one of the most popular candidates the GOP had for a long time, he made serious change in regard to traditional GOP positions in various topics. And, seriously speaking, how can he be hurting the GOP more than the tea party ? Just saying that no matter who wins the election, the underlying issues that placed Trump in the place he is now will remain, and the anger that people feel towards their elites will continue to grow as long as issues are not adressed.
And I don't get how you get my tone through those comments but well.
I strongly disagree. The Brexit campaign showed the same issue. You can debunk statements over and over again, you can show facts and the response is "People have enough of experts".
These people do not care about issues or policies. They care about feelings and being pandered to.
I think of the statement "people have enough of experts" as stupid when said explicitly, but that the sentiment behind it is the same kind of sentiment you would use for dismissing some of the long-winded, "data driven" biased posters in this thread who will remain unmentioned: people with some degree of expertise who twist the facts and use a biased interpretation to support a position that is less so true and more so made for personal political gain. The "experts" being referred to are in social science fields where explicit bias plays a much bigger role than in the hard sciences.
On August 04 2016 01:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: With yet another misogynistic comment, more parody of the military, and a skin so thin that even a baby gets under it, I'm hoping that eventually more and more people will realize that voting for Trump is just simply unacceptable. (Although, to be fair, Donald Trump was probably just jealous of how big the baby's hands were.)
On August 04 2016 01:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: With yet another misogynistic comment, more parody of the military, and a skin so thin that even a baby gets under it, I'm hoping that eventually more and more people will realize that voting for Trump is just simply unacceptable. (Although, to be fair, Donald Trump was probably just jealous of how big the baby's hands were.)
On August 04 2016 01:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: With yet another misogynistic comment, more parody of the military, and a skin so thin that even a baby gets under it, I'm hoping that eventually more and more people will realize that voting for Trump is just simply unacceptable. (Although, to be fair, Donald Trump was probably just jealous of how big the baby's hands were.)
On August 04 2016 01:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: With yet another misogynistic comment, more parody of the military, and a skin so thin that even a baby gets under it, I'm hoping that eventually more and more people will realize that voting for Trump is just simply unacceptable. (Although, to be fair, Donald Trump was probably just jealous of how big the baby's hands were.)
I am conflicted if this is the best thing I’ve seen in a while or if I want to burn down the internet because it exist. I must get used to this feeling, since we have 97 days to go.
On August 04 2016 01:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: With yet another misogynistic comment, more parody of the military, and a skin so thin that even a baby gets under it, I'm hoping that eventually more and more people will realize that voting for Trump is just simply unacceptable. (Although, to be fair, Donald Trump was probably just jealous of how big the baby's hands were.)
On August 04 2016 01:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: With yet another misogynistic comment, more parody of the military, and a skin so thin that even a baby gets under it, I'm hoping that eventually more and more people will realize that voting for Trump is just simply unacceptable. (Although, to be fair, Donald Trump was probably just jealous of how big the baby's hands were.)
On August 04 2016 00:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 04 2016 00:09 WhiteDog wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:59 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:50 Doodsmack wrote: The idea that Trump makes those jabs at Ryan and McCain out of petty revenge, at such an important time...and people actually want this guy to be president? He is a petulant child with no understanding of the issues.
It's not the media, it's Trump. To claim otherwise is dishonest.
Well he will get in history book as a warning : this is what happens when a whole party plays the demagogy card and disregards facts and reality for a whole decade.
The GOP has been playing with fire for way, way, way too long.
The question is not whether or not Trump will be elected (he won't) or damage for a long time the GOP (he already has), but if Republican leaders are gonna learn anything from that utter fiasco.
Are you the one we call to get naked pictures of Hillary ?
Do you have a point in this thread or are you just there to play the cool nihilistic againt-the-system smartass french kid?
The great thing of the internet is that contrarily to people i talk with in paris, there are much less of those.
It's not my role on this forum to tell you what to do and how to behave, but don't expect people to take you seriously if you go around with such a vain approach.
Anyway. Back on topic.
How am I a nihilist ? You spend your time saying Trump is a fool, just like you were criticizing Sanders before. If your entire point is that people who run against Hillary should behave like Hillary and her campaign wants them to, one post would be sufficient.
Whitedog, your posts do have this tone of dethatched pleasure at watching people struggle to deal with their nation’s populist movements. As with the Brexit, the close we get to the vote, the more personal this becomes for people. I have said it before, but we have close friends that are terrified of Trump. Their children are being told by other students that Trump will deport them. So if you bring the snark, don’t be shocked when people fire back.
That's maybe because I disagree with the idea that populism is bad in itself. What permit those populist figures to gain traction is the lack of discussion and clarification over subjects. I remember CCStealthBlue saying a few pages ago that the syrian refugees that came to the US were merely women and children because it's difficult to get here ; that's the kind of clarification that is very beneficial to a political debates as it tends to calm fears. Funnily enough, the Clinton campaign never even tried to propose such clarifications, nor any kind of plan to respond to the million of people that expressed their desire to vote Trump. Instead of that, people are showing articles and videos about how Trump might be insane, how he is bad for america, how he might nuke everybody for fun and how he is hurting the GOP. How has this Khan guy contributed to anything from a political standpoint by the way ?
Trump is one of the most popular candidates the GOP had for a long time, he made serious change in regard to traditional GOP positions in various topics. And, seriously speaking, how can he be hurting the GOP more than the tea party ? Just saying that no matter who wins the election, the underlying issues that placed Trump in the place he is now will remain, and the anger that people feel towards their elites will continue to grow as long as issues are not adressed.
And I don't get how you get my tone through those comments but well.
I strongly disagree. The Brexit campaign showed the same issue. You can debunk statements over and over again, you can show facts and the response is "People have enough of experts".
These people do not care about issues or policies. They care about feelings and being pandered to.
Nothing was debunked in regards to europe, all they did was trying to find figures and expertise to discard the feelings of the population. They never agreed that europe is flawed, they tried to argue that it was beneficial overall, and failed to reform europe for 20 years. Result is europe is virtually dead.
The however much it was that the UK spend on the EU. the money they were going to put int the NHS once they left. You know, the bullshit lies Farage walked back on during an interview the day after the vote.
You cant satisfyingly answer feelings that are based on complete horseshit when people are not willing to listen to facts. "You don't do anything about the immigrants who take our jobs!, here is proof they are not, wrahwrah but I am unemployed. Your facts aer wrong and its their fault".
On August 04 2016 00:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 04 2016 00:09 WhiteDog wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:59 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:50 Doodsmack wrote: The idea that Trump makes those jabs at Ryan and McCain out of petty revenge, at such an important time...and people actually want this guy to be president? He is a petulant child with no understanding of the issues.
It's not the media, it's Trump. To claim otherwise is dishonest.
Well he will get in history book as a warning : this is what happens when a whole party plays the demagogy card and disregards facts and reality for a whole decade.
The GOP has been playing with fire for way, way, way too long.
The question is not whether or not Trump will be elected (he won't) or damage for a long time the GOP (he already has), but if Republican leaders are gonna learn anything from that utter fiasco.
Are you the one we call to get naked pictures of Hillary ?
Do you have a point in this thread or are you just there to play the cool nihilistic againt-the-system smartass french kid?
The great thing of the internet is that contrarily to people i talk with in paris, there are much less of those.
It's not my role on this forum to tell you what to do and how to behave, but don't expect people to take you seriously if you go around with such a vain approach.
Anyway. Back on topic.
How am I a nihilist ? You spend your time saying Trump is a fool, just like you were criticizing Sanders before. If your entire point is that people who run against Hillary should behave like Hillary and her campaign wants them to, one post would be sufficient.
Whitedog, your posts do have this tone of dethatched pleasure at watching people struggle to deal with their nation’s populist movements. As with the Brexit, the close we get to the vote, the more personal this becomes for people. I have said it before, but we have close friends that are terrified of Trump. Their children are being told by other students that Trump will deport them. So if you bring the snark, don’t be shocked when people fire back.
That's maybe because I disagree with the idea that populism is bad in itself. What permit those populist figures to gain traction is the lack of discussion and clarification over subjects. I remember CCStealthBlue saying a few pages ago that the syrian refugees that came to the US were merely women and children because it's difficult to get here ; that's the kind of clarification that is very beneficial to a political debates as it tends to calm fears. Funnily enough, the Clinton campaign never even tried to propose such clarifications, nor any kind of plan to respond to the million of people that expressed their desire to vote Trump. Instead of that, people are showing articles and videos about how Trump might be insane, how he is bad for america, how he might nuke everybody for fun and how he is hurting the GOP. How has this Khan guy contributed to anything from a political standpoint by the way ?
Trump is one of the most popular candidates the GOP had for a long time, he made serious change in regard to traditional GOP positions in various topics. And, seriously speaking, how can he be hurting the GOP more than the tea party ? Just saying that no matter who wins the election, the underlying issues that placed Trump in the place he is now will remain, and the anger that people feel towards their elites will continue to grow as long as issues are not adressed.
And I don't get how you get my tone through those comments but well.
Trump is absolutely NOT one of the most popular candidates the GOP has had for a long time (unless 4 years is a long time). He has higher unfavorable ratings within his own party than any other nominee running in recorded history and had a brutal time securing the nomination in comparison to almost any other nominee. And outside his party he's still the worst as far as I know.
The only way to believe he's transcendently popular is if you believe his lies about the size of his rallies.
On August 04 2016 00:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 04 2016 00:09 WhiteDog wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:59 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:50 Doodsmack wrote: The idea that Trump makes those jabs at Ryan and McCain out of petty revenge, at such an important time...and people actually want this guy to be president? He is a petulant child with no understanding of the issues.
It's not the media, it's Trump. To claim otherwise is dishonest.
Well he will get in history book as a warning : this is what happens when a whole party plays the demagogy card and disregards facts and reality for a whole decade.
The GOP has been playing with fire for way, way, way too long.
The question is not whether or not Trump will be elected (he won't) or damage for a long time the GOP (he already has), but if Republican leaders are gonna learn anything from that utter fiasco.
Are you the one we call to get naked pictures of Hillary ?
Do you have a point in this thread or are you just there to play the cool nihilistic againt-the-system smartass french kid?
The great thing of the internet is that contrarily to people i talk with in paris, there are much less of those.
It's not my role on this forum to tell you what to do and how to behave, but don't expect people to take you seriously if you go around with such a vain approach.
Anyway. Back on topic.
How am I a nihilist ? You spend your time saying Trump is a fool, just like you were criticizing Sanders before. If your entire point is that people who run against Hillary should behave like Hillary and her campaign wants them to, one post would be sufficient.
Whitedog, your posts do have this tone of dethatched pleasure at watching people struggle to deal with their nation’s populist movements. As with the Brexit, the close we get to the vote, the more personal this becomes for people. I have said it before, but we have close friends that are terrified of Trump. Their children are being told by other students that Trump will deport them. So if you bring the snark, don’t be shocked when people fire back.
That's maybe because I disagree with the idea that populism is bad in itself. What permit those populist figures to gain traction is the lack of discussion and clarification over subjects. I remember CCStealthBlue saying a few pages ago that the syrian refugees that came to the US were merely women and children because it's difficult to get here ; that's the kind of clarification that is very beneficial to a political debates as it tends to calm fears. Funnily enough, the Clinton campaign never even tried to propose such clarifications, nor any kind of plan to respond to the million of people that expressed their desire to vote Trump. Instead of that, people are showing articles and videos about how Trump might be insane, how he is bad for america, how he might nuke everybody for fun and how he is hurting the GOP. How has this Khan guy contributed to anything from a political standpoint by the way ?
Trump is one of the most popular candidates the GOP had for a long time, he made serious change in regard to traditional GOP positions in various topics. And, seriously speaking, how can he be hurting the GOP more than the tea party ? Just saying that no matter who wins the election, the underlying issues that placed Trump in the place he is now will remain, and the anger that people feel towards their elites will continue to grow as long as issues are not adressed.
And I don't get how you get my tone through those comments but well.
Trump is absolutely NOT one of the most popular candidates the GOP has had for a long time (unless 4 years is a long time). He has higher unfavorable ratings within his own party than any other nominee running in recorded history and had a brutal time securing the nomination in comparison to almost any other nominee.
The only way to believe he's transcendently popular is if you believe his lies about the size of his rallies.
He had the most vote for the primary out of any republican. + Show Spoiler +
On August 04 2016 01:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: With yet another misogynistic comment, more parody of the military, and a skin so thin that even a baby gets under it, I'm hoping that eventually more and more people will realize that voting for Trump is just simply unacceptable. (Although, to be fair, Donald Trump was probably just jealous of how big the baby's hands were.)
On August 04 2016 00:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 04 2016 00:09 WhiteDog wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:59 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:50 Doodsmack wrote: The idea that Trump makes those jabs at Ryan and McCain out of petty revenge, at such an important time...and people actually want this guy to be president? He is a petulant child with no understanding of the issues.
It's not the media, it's Trump. To claim otherwise is dishonest.
Well he will get in history book as a warning : this is what happens when a whole party plays the demagogy card and disregards facts and reality for a whole decade.
The GOP has been playing with fire for way, way, way too long.
The question is not whether or not Trump will be elected (he won't) or damage for a long time the GOP (he already has), but if Republican leaders are gonna learn anything from that utter fiasco.
Are you the one we call to get naked pictures of Hillary ?
Do you have a point in this thread or are you just there to play the cool nihilistic againt-the-system smartass french kid?
The great thing of the internet is that contrarily to people i talk with in paris, there are much less of those.
It's not my role on this forum to tell you what to do and how to behave, but don't expect people to take you seriously if you go around with such a vain approach.
Anyway. Back on topic.
How am I a nihilist ? You spend your time saying Trump is a fool, just like you were criticizing Sanders before. If your entire point is that people who run against Hillary should behave like Hillary and her campaign wants them to, one post would be sufficient.
Whitedog, your posts do have this tone of dethatched pleasure at watching people struggle to deal with their nation’s populist movements. As with the Brexit, the close we get to the vote, the more personal this becomes for people. I have said it before, but we have close friends that are terrified of Trump. Their children are being told by other students that Trump will deport them. So if you bring the snark, don’t be shocked when people fire back.
That's maybe because I disagree with the idea that populism is bad in itself. What permit those populist figures to gain traction is the lack of discussion and clarification over subjects. I remember CCStealthBlue saying a few pages ago that the syrian refugees that came to the US were merely women and children because it's difficult to get here ; that's the kind of clarification that is very beneficial to a political debates as it tends to calm fears. Funnily enough, the Clinton campaign never even tried to propose such clarifications, nor any kind of plan to respond to the million of people that expressed their desire to vote Trump. Instead of that, people are showing articles and videos about how Trump might be insane, how he is bad for america, how he might nuke everybody for fun and how he is hurting the GOP. How has this Khan guy contributed to anything from a political standpoint by the way ?
Trump is one of the most popular candidates the GOP had for a long time, he made serious change in regard to traditional GOP positions in various topics. And, seriously speaking, how can he be hurting the GOP more than the tea party ? Just saying that no matter who wins the election, the underlying issues that placed Trump in the place he is now will remain, and the anger that people feel towards their elites will continue to grow as long as issues are not adressed.
And I don't get how you get my tone through those comments but well.
Trump is absolutely NOT one of the most popular candidates the GOP has had for a long time (unless 4 years is a long time). He has higher unfavorable ratings within his own party than any other nominee running in recorded history and had a brutal time securing the nomination in comparison to almost any other nominee.
The only way to believe he's transcendently popular is if you believe his lies about the size of his rallies.
He had the most vote for the primary out of any republican.
I don't know why you think that means he's the most popular when it's one man one vote in a field of 17 and took ages and it took a huge fuckup from Cruz/Kasich for him to crack 50% in a state.
There only evidence in existence points to him being the least popular nominee in recorded history, as far as I can tell.
On August 04 2016 01:22 LegalLord wrote: I think of the statement "people have enough of experts" as stupid when said explicitly, but that the sentiment behind it is the same kind of sentiment you would use for dismissing some of the long-winded, "data driven" biased posters in this thread who will remain unmentioned: people with some degree of expertise who twist the facts and use a biased interpretation to support a position that is less so true and more so made for personal political gain. The "experts" being referred to are in social science fields where explicit bias plays a much bigger role than in the hard sciences.
While I agree with this, I think responding to those "experts" in such a dismissive way rather than engaging them in rational discourse dumbs down the discussion in a way that's thoroughly unproductive. Really, it's ignorance and laziness to just say "I don't want to deal with you".
On August 04 2016 00:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 04 2016 00:09 WhiteDog wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:59 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 03 2016 23:50 Doodsmack wrote: The idea that Trump makes those jabs at Ryan and McCain out of petty revenge, at such an important time...and people actually want this guy to be president? He is a petulant child with no understanding of the issues.
It's not the media, it's Trump. To claim otherwise is dishonest.
Well he will get in history book as a warning : this is what happens when a whole party plays the demagogy card and disregards facts and reality for a whole decade.
The GOP has been playing with fire for way, way, way too long.
The question is not whether or not Trump will be elected (he won't) or damage for a long time the GOP (he already has), but if Republican leaders are gonna learn anything from that utter fiasco.
Are you the one we call to get naked pictures of Hillary ?
Do you have a point in this thread or are you just there to play the cool nihilistic againt-the-system smartass french kid?
The great thing of the internet is that contrarily to people i talk with in paris, there are much less of those.
It's not my role on this forum to tell you what to do and how to behave, but don't expect people to take you seriously if you go around with such a vain approach.
Anyway. Back on topic.
How am I a nihilist ? You spend your time saying Trump is a fool, just like you were criticizing Sanders before. If your entire point is that people who run against Hillary should behave like Hillary and her campaign wants them to, one post would be sufficient.
Whitedog, your posts do have this tone of dethatched pleasure at watching people struggle to deal with their nation’s populist movements. As with the Brexit, the close we get to the vote, the more personal this becomes for people. I have said it before, but we have close friends that are terrified of Trump. Their children are being told by other students that Trump will deport them. So if you bring the snark, don’t be shocked when people fire back.
That's maybe because I disagree with the idea that populism is bad in itself. What permit those populist figures to gain traction is the lack of discussion and clarification over subjects. I remember CCStealthBlue saying a few pages ago that the syrian refugees that came to the US were merely women and children because it's difficult to get here ; that's the kind of clarification that is very beneficial to a political debates as it tends to calm fears. Funnily enough, the Clinton campaign never even tried to propose such clarifications, nor any kind of plan to respond to the million of people that expressed their desire to vote Trump. Instead of that, people are showing articles and videos about how Trump might be insane, how he is bad for america, how he might nuke everybody for fun and how he is hurting the GOP. How has this Khan guy contributed to anything from a political standpoint by the way ?
Trump is one of the most popular candidates the GOP had for a long time, he made serious change in regard to traditional GOP positions in various topics. And, seriously speaking, how can he be hurting the GOP more than the tea party ? Just saying that no matter who wins the election, the underlying issues that placed Trump in the place he is now will remain, and the anger that people feel towards their elites will continue to grow as long as issues are not adressed.
And I don't get how you get my tone through those comments but well.
Trump is absolutely NOT one of the most popular candidates the GOP has had for a long time (unless 4 years is a long time). He has higher unfavorable ratings within his own party than any other nominee running in recorded history and had a brutal time securing the nomination in comparison to almost any other nominee.
The only way to believe he's transcendently popular is if you believe his lies about the size of his rallies.
He had the most vote for the primary out of any republican.
I don't know why you think that means he's the most popular when it's one man one vote in a field of 17.
One of the most popular I wrote. Not the most. He is more popular than McCain and Romney at least.
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