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On July 25 2016 09:59 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 09:57 Mohdoo wrote:
It should. I admit it, I'm genuinely surprised. Even ignoring the obvious PR disaster of keeping DWS around, I can't help but wonder *why*. Blackmail? What benefit does she gain? She would have to be incredibly valuable to keep around. I really don't get it. I'm crossing my fingers for Bernie at the convention at this point. This is what makes this so strange to me. There's not really anything clear to be gained here. It's just pissing people off, and even if you think those people you are pissing off are few or don't matter, I don't see what she's getting in exchange.
DWS no longer needs to go on morning shows or Sunday shows now that she has a job with Clinton. Thus she is stable in her position in the Democrat party. She does not have to talk to people to get a new job, thus she stands no chance of offending more Bernie supporters.
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On July 25 2016 10:19 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 10:18 Mohdoo wrote:On July 25 2016 10:05 xDaunt wrote:On July 25 2016 10:01 zlefin wrote:On July 25 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:On July 25 2016 09:58 zlefin wrote:On July 25 2016 09:57 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, and here's the other thing. For months and months, the media has been giving these clowns at the DNC cover to fuck Bernie over even when they clearly knew what was going on. I hope all of you disillusioned liberals pay very careful attention to that fact. nope. because you're aserting the media being in on it is not a fact; it's an opinion, with inadequate foundation; especially given your long history of bias on such issues. Then again, maybe I'm not in the category of people you were referring to, in which case, nevermind and forget I said anything. Really? Who do you think Donna Brazile is? dunno. I'll need a fe wminutes to read the wiki page; and i'm playing a game in the background, so gimme 15-30 minutes. Make sure that you also read the emails showing DWS working with CBS news to buttress Hillary against Bernie. Yeah, that's when I threw in the towel. Gh was right. What an insane election. I just wish I knew what they were thinking hiring her. I have to know. It defies reason in so many ways that it makes me think dws has what it takes to full on take down Clinton. They could be soul linked so to speak. I am legitimately thinking Bernie could come out of the convention as the nominee. I hope he does. Sure didn't expect myself to be saying that the night before the convention. Christ. Why is cnn not covering the part about her hiring dws? There has been no mention of it.
Because "dem prez hiring dem leader to help with dem campaign" is not a news story.
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On July 25 2016 10:14 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 10:05 xDaunt wrote:On July 25 2016 10:01 zlefin wrote:On July 25 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:On July 25 2016 09:58 zlefin wrote:On July 25 2016 09:57 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, and here's the other thing. For months and months, the media has been giving these clowns at the DNC cover to fuck Bernie over even when they clearly knew what was going on. I hope all of you disillusioned liberals pay very careful attention to that fact. nope. because you're aserting the media being in on it is not a fact; it's an opinion, with inadequate foundation; especially given your long history of bias on such issues. Then again, maybe I'm not in the category of people you were referring to, in which case, nevermind and forget I said anything. Really? Who do you think Donna Brazile is? dunno. I'll need a fe wminutes to read the wiki page; and i'm playing a game in the background, so gimme 15-30 minutes. Make sure that you also read the emails showing DWS working with CBS news to buttress Hillary against Bernie. I googled those; it'll take some more time to look through those as well.
re: xdaunt
Donna Brazile looks like a long-time political operator who's made some apperances on cnn as one of the numerous expert guests.
I see some sketchy stuff in the emails; nothing to say a massive media conspiracy; just some individual connections. But there's a lot of emails, so I may not have seen the ones you were referring to.
I'd like more info on what the background level of this stuff is; i.e. I'm not an experienced political operator, and in the normal course of business I'm not sure how much media contacting and moderately sketchy stuff just happens anyways. I mean, this is a large operation after all.
I'm not seeing the stuff wherein the media gave the people at the DNC cover specifically.
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On July 25 2016 10:27 TMagpie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 10:19 biology]major wrote:On July 25 2016 10:18 Mohdoo wrote:On July 25 2016 10:05 xDaunt wrote:On July 25 2016 10:01 zlefin wrote:On July 25 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:On July 25 2016 09:58 zlefin wrote:On July 25 2016 09:57 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, and here's the other thing. For months and months, the media has been giving these clowns at the DNC cover to fuck Bernie over even when they clearly knew what was going on. I hope all of you disillusioned liberals pay very careful attention to that fact. nope. because you're aserting the media being in on it is not a fact; it's an opinion, with inadequate foundation; especially given your long history of bias on such issues. Then again, maybe I'm not in the category of people you were referring to, in which case, nevermind and forget I said anything. Really? Who do you think Donna Brazile is? dunno. I'll need a fe wminutes to read the wiki page; and i'm playing a game in the background, so gimme 15-30 minutes. Make sure that you also read the emails showing DWS working with CBS news to buttress Hillary against Bernie. Yeah, that's when I threw in the towel. Gh was right. What an insane election. I just wish I knew what they were thinking hiring her. I have to know. It defies reason in so many ways that it makes me think dws has what it takes to full on take down Clinton. They could be soul linked so to speak. I am legitimately thinking Bernie could come out of the convention as the nominee. I hope he does. Sure didn't expect myself to be saying that the night before the convention. Christ. Why is cnn not covering the part about her hiring dws? There has been no mention of it. Because "dem prez hiring dem leader to help with dem campaign" is not a news story.
That's some high quality spin.
Who is Hillary going to blame when she loses the election?
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On July 25 2016 10:18 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 10:05 xDaunt wrote:On July 25 2016 10:01 zlefin wrote:On July 25 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:On July 25 2016 09:58 zlefin wrote:On July 25 2016 09:57 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, and here's the other thing. For months and months, the media has been giving these clowns at the DNC cover to fuck Bernie over even when they clearly knew what was going on. I hope all of you disillusioned liberals pay very careful attention to that fact. nope. because you're aserting the media being in on it is not a fact; it's an opinion, with inadequate foundation; especially given your long history of bias on such issues. Then again, maybe I'm not in the category of people you were referring to, in which case, nevermind and forget I said anything. Really? Who do you think Donna Brazile is? dunno. I'll need a fe wminutes to read the wiki page; and i'm playing a game in the background, so gimme 15-30 minutes. Make sure that you also read the emails showing DWS working with CBS news to buttress Hillary against Bernie. Yeah, that's when I threw in the towel. Gh was right. What an insane election. I just wish I knew what they were thinking hiring her. I have to know. It defies reason in so many ways that it makes me think dws has what it takes to full on take down Clinton. They could be soul linked so to speak. I am legitimately thinking Bernie could come out of the convention as the nominee. I hope he does. Sure didn't expect myself to be saying that the night before the convention. Christ.
Not happening.
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On July 25 2016 10:27 TMagpie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 10:19 biology]major wrote:On July 25 2016 10:18 Mohdoo wrote:On July 25 2016 10:05 xDaunt wrote:On July 25 2016 10:01 zlefin wrote:On July 25 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:On July 25 2016 09:58 zlefin wrote:On July 25 2016 09:57 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, and here's the other thing. For months and months, the media has been giving these clowns at the DNC cover to fuck Bernie over even when they clearly knew what was going on. I hope all of you disillusioned liberals pay very careful attention to that fact. nope. because you're aserting the media being in on it is not a fact; it's an opinion, with inadequate foundation; especially given your long history of bias on such issues. Then again, maybe I'm not in the category of people you were referring to, in which case, nevermind and forget I said anything. Really? Who do you think Donna Brazile is? dunno. I'll need a fe wminutes to read the wiki page; and i'm playing a game in the background, so gimme 15-30 minutes. Make sure that you also read the emails showing DWS working with CBS news to buttress Hillary against Bernie. Yeah, that's when I threw in the towel. Gh was right. What an insane election. I just wish I knew what they were thinking hiring her. I have to know. It defies reason in so many ways that it makes me think dws has what it takes to full on take down Clinton. They could be soul linked so to speak. I am legitimately thinking Bernie could come out of the convention as the nominee. I hope he does. Sure didn't expect myself to be saying that the night before the convention. Christ. Why is cnn not covering the part about her hiring dws? There has been no mention of it. Because "dem prez hiring dem leader to help with dem campaign" is not a news story.
DNC leader resigns in disgrace after email leak reveals blatant Hillary bias in primary season; gets kickback offer from Hillary.
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So if I'm getting this straight... some people in the DNC said some mean things about Bernie + his campaign and that's validation of them conspiring against him? Seems like they expressed irritation with him and that was about it. It's unprofessional, but it's not wrong (and heck, he deserved it in some cases).
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If you had to deal with this shit (and yes, it's framed in a way to make Bernie look particularly bad, but the facts of his campaign being impossible to work with stand for themselves) wouldn't you be frustrated?
I also see some emails to the networks saying "yo we don't appreciate this please stop". I don't see any of this ordering people around shit that people have been talking about.
I haven't seen a single story about about the DNC actually rigging a single thing against Bernie. If there were it would kind of be everywhere. Until I see more than an email saying "gosh this dude is an asshole", I'm not going to buy any accusations of bias when he's ultimately been treated pretty much the same as everyone else who ran.
I don't like hiring DWS as honorary chairperson, whatever the heck that means. Optics are awful. Then again, I don't know the story behind it either. My conjecture is that it's some sort of deal to get her out as DNC chair and canceling her appearances at the convention.
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It's probably not on CNN because it dropped at 5 PM on a sunday afternoon, I'm sure it'll be all over conservative radio + tv by tomorrow morning, and will wind up getting covered by other places due to that.
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On July 25 2016 09:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
A "purge" in Colorado after the disgrace that happened there is sorely needed.
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On July 25 2016 10:55 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:A "purge" in Colorado after the disgrace that happened there is sorely needed.
If Trump wins the election, they're all gonna get fucked anyway. The neocon and traditional conservative elements of the party will be more or less dead.
EDIT: And they may be fucked even if Trump loses.
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Might as well purge em, along with all Obama appointees. Because that's just what we do in America.
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The Trump supporter base isn't going away any time soon regardless of the ultimate outcome of the election, no matter how much the Republican Party will try to wish it away.
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On July 25 2016 10:55 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:A "purge" in Colorado after the disgrace that happened there is sorely needed.
I wonder what it's like in Trump fantasy land.
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On July 25 2016 11:04 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 10:55 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:A "purge" in Colorado after the disgrace that happened there is sorely needed. I wonder what it's like in Trump fantasy land.
It's a helluva lot more fun than Romneyland, McCainland, and Bushland.
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This is priceless:
Clinton Cash catapulted to the #2 trending topic on Facebook Sunday, in the wake of the global premiere of the motion picture adaptation of the New York Times best-selling book Clinton Cash authored by Government Accountability Institute President and Breitbart Senior Editor-at-Large Peter Schweizer.
Among the most impassioned supporters of the film were committed Bernie Sanders backers, who took to their respective Facebook accounts and prompted to them film to their followers.
Among them were: Veterans for Bernie Sanders, which boasts 50,889 Facebook followers; Jill Stein–Rockin’ in the Green World and Bernie Sanders for President 2016 which tout 47,079 and 116,922 Facebook followers, respectively; and Bernie Sanders is My Hero which has 68,763 Facebook followers.
In all, more than 283,000 dyed-in-the-wool Bernie Sanders supporters helped push Clinton Cash to the top of Facebook’s trending topics list.
UPDATE: “Clinton Cash” is now the #1 Facebook trending topic — screenshot has been updated.
Source.
Looks like the progressives are feeling just a wee-bit jilted.
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On July 25 2016 11:07 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 11:04 Introvert wrote:On July 25 2016 10:55 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:A "purge" in Colorado after the disgrace that happened there is sorely needed. I wonder what it's like in Trump fantasy land. It's a helluva lot more fun than Romneyland, McCainland, and Bushland.
That's not saying much. But I do believe you.
This DNC stuff already makes me feel like this is just part of my imagination. What's left to happen this year?
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On July 25 2016 11:04 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 10:55 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:A "purge" in Colorado after the disgrace that happened there is sorely needed. I wonder what it's like in Trump fantasy land.
Somehow removing the GOP leaders in Colorado is worse than said leaders disallowing primary voting in that state at a moments notice and choosing who they want?
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On July 25 2016 11:17 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 11:04 Introvert wrote:On July 25 2016 10:55 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:A "purge" in Colorado after the disgrace that happened there is sorely needed. I wonder what it's like in Trump fantasy land. Somehow removing the GOP leaders in Colorado is worse than said leaders disallowing primary voting in that state at a moments notice and choosing who they want?
Colorado was a classic example of Trump's failure to organize. 60000+ people participated.
They abandoned the primary vote in August of last year. Before anyone thought Trump was a serious candidate. If you think they changed it because of Trump you are in fantasy land.
Edit: btw, 10/10 to purge activists you might really need the swingiest of swing states, CO.
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On July 25 2016 11:11 xDaunt wrote:This is priceless: Show nested quote +Clinton Cash catapulted to the #2 trending topic on Facebook Sunday, in the wake of the global premiere of the motion picture adaptation of the New York Times best-selling book Clinton Cash authored by Government Accountability Institute President and Breitbart Senior Editor-at-Large Peter Schweizer.
Among the most impassioned supporters of the film were committed Bernie Sanders backers, who took to their respective Facebook accounts and prompted to them film to their followers.
Among them were: Veterans for Bernie Sanders, which boasts 50,889 Facebook followers; Jill Stein–Rockin’ in the Green World and Bernie Sanders for President 2016 which tout 47,079 and 116,922 Facebook followers, respectively; and Bernie Sanders is My Hero which has 68,763 Facebook followers.
In all, more than 283,000 dyed-in-the-wool Bernie Sanders supporters helped push Clinton Cash to the top of Facebook’s trending topics list.
UPDATE: “Clinton Cash” is now the #1 Facebook trending topic — screenshot has been updated. Source. Looks like the progressives are feeling just a wee-bit jilted.
There's nothing quite like the brilliant journalistic minds at Breitbart, adding the total followers of a bunch of facebook pages to come up with a super legitimate number of how many die hard Bernie fans were into a documentary whose total number of views is much lower than that number.
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On July 25 2016 10:38 ticklishmusic wrote:So if I'm getting this straight... some people in the DNC said some mean things about Bernie + his campaign and that's validation of them conspiring against him? Seems like they expressed irritation with him and that was about it. It's unprofessional, but it's not wrong (and heck, he deserved it in some cases). If you had to deal with this shit (and yes, it's framed in a way to make Bernie look particularly bad, but the facts of his campaign being impossible to work with stand for themselves) wouldn't you be frustrated? I also see some emails to the networks saying "yo we don't appreciate this please stop". I don't see any of this ordering people around shit that people have been talking about. I haven't seen a single story about about the DNC actually rigging a single thing against Bernie. If there were it would kind of be everywhere. Until I see more than an email saying "gosh this dude is an asshole", I'm not going to buy any accusations of bias when he's ultimately been treated pretty much the same as everyone else who ran. I don't like hiring DWS as honorary chairperson, whatever the heck that means. Optics are awful. Then again, I don't know the story behind it either. My conjecture is that it's some sort of deal to get her out as DNC chair and canceling her appearances at the convention.
Ah hah! Hey guys, look! I found that rationalization!
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