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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 25 2016 00:49 GMT
#88601
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 25 2016 00:50 GMT
#88602
So does this DWS business shed a new light on Clinton Cash for anyone?
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
July 25 2016 00:52 GMT
#88603
On July 25 2016 09:50 xDaunt wrote:
So does this DWS business shed a new light on Clinton Cash for anyone?

No, not really. All but the most unreasonable of Hillary's supporters could foresee this sort of thing happening.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 25 2016 00:57 GMT
#88604
Oh, and here's the other thing. For months and months, the media has been giving these clowns at the DNC cover to fuck Bernie over even when they clearly knew what was going on. I hope all of you disillusioned liberals pay very careful attention to that fact.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 00:57:48
July 25 2016 00:57 GMT
#88605
On July 25 2016 09:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 09:43 Mohdoo wrote:
Are we at the point where we hope Bernie makes a big enough fuss? I'm almost there. This is seriously bad.


No but seriously, the validation does feel good though.


It should. I admit it, I'm genuinely surprised. Even ignoring the obvious PR disaster of keeping DWS around, I can't help but wonder *why*. Blackmail? What benefit does she gain? She would have to be incredibly valuable to keep around. I really don't get it. I'm crossing my fingers for Bernie at the convention at this point.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
July 25 2016 00:58 GMT
#88606
On July 25 2016 09:57 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, and here's the other thing. For months and months, the media has been giving these clowns at the DNC cover to fuck Bernie over even when they clearly knew what was going on. I hope all of you disillusioned liberals pay very careful attention to that fact.

nope. because you're aserting the media being in on it is not a fact; it's an opinion, with inadequate foundation; especially given your long history of bias on such issues.
Then again, maybe I'm not in the category of people you were referring to, in which case, nevermind and forget I said anything.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23220 Posts
July 25 2016 00:58 GMT
#88607
I think the Clinton's sneaking out of everything may be coming to an end thanks to the digital age.



Only difference being it wasn't against the rules for her to be openly against Bernie winning.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 25 2016 00:59 GMT
#88608
On July 25 2016 09:57 Mohdoo wrote:
It should. I admit it, I'm genuinely surprised. Even ignoring the obvious PR disaster of keeping DWS around, I can't help but wonder *why*. Blackmail? What benefit does she gain? She would have to be incredibly valuable to keep around. I really don't get it. I'm crossing my fingers for Bernie at the convention at this point.

This is what makes this so strange to me. There's not really anything clear to be gained here. It's just pissing people off, and even if you think those people you are pissing off are few or don't matter, I don't see what she's getting in exchange.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 25 2016 00:59 GMT
#88609
On July 25 2016 09:58 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 09:57 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, and here's the other thing. For months and months, the media has been giving these clowns at the DNC cover to fuck Bernie over even when they clearly knew what was going on. I hope all of you disillusioned liberals pay very careful attention to that fact.

nope. because you're aserting the media being in on it is not a fact; it's an opinion, with inadequate foundation; especially given your long history of bias on such issues.
Then again, maybe I'm not in the category of people you were referring to, in which case, nevermind and forget I said anything.

Really? Who do you think Donna Brazile is?
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
July 25 2016 01:01 GMT
#88610
On July 25 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 09:58 zlefin wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:57 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, and here's the other thing. For months and months, the media has been giving these clowns at the DNC cover to fuck Bernie over even when they clearly knew what was going on. I hope all of you disillusioned liberals pay very careful attention to that fact.

nope. because you're aserting the media being in on it is not a fact; it's an opinion, with inadequate foundation; especially given your long history of bias on such issues.
Then again, maybe I'm not in the category of people you were referring to, in which case, nevermind and forget I said anything.

Really? Who do you think Donna Brazile is?

dunno. I'll need a fe wminutes to read the wiki page; and i'm playing a game in the background, so gimme 15-30 minutes.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
July 25 2016 01:01 GMT
#88611
On July 25 2016 09:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 09:43 Mohdoo wrote:
Are we at the point where we hope Bernie makes a big enough fuss? I'm almost there. This is seriously bad.


You're just a crazy Bernie Bro. The only right choice for left leaners is to continue to support the candidate which openly lied to us the whole campaign, was extremely careless with classified info, had her staff conspire with the DNC to undermine her competition, planted her minion at the head of the DNC, and when that minion was exposed, she praised and gave her a position on her "campaign".

No but seriously, the validation does feel good though.


It should, I've seen most of your theories during the primaries dismissed as a crazy conspiracy antics but it turned out most of that came to fruition. Even in light of all this Hillary supporters will still stand behind her, there's no hope at this point. I hope the convention just gets halted due to protests, and Bernie is lifted on a iron throne and carried in mid way through Shillary's final speech. One can dream
Question.?
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
July 25 2016 01:02 GMT
#88612
10/10 prelude to the convention though. Not exactly how I expected this week to go but I guess someone at Wikileaks decided to send Hillary a massive "fuck you" with impeccable timing.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 25 2016 01:03 GMT
#88613
On July 25 2016 09:58 GreenHorizons wrote:
I think the Clinton's sneaking out of everything may be coming to an end thanks to the digital age.

https://twitter.com/KaydeeKing/status/757373746726440960

Only difference being it wasn't against the rules for her to be openly against Bernie winning.

Your right, they should be banned from voting, having opinions or interacting with the primary. That would have totally changed the outcome.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 25 2016 01:05 GMT
#88614
On July 25 2016 10:02 LegalLord wrote:
10/10 prelude to the convention though. Not exactly how I expected this week to go but I guess someone at Wikileaks decided to send Hillary a massive "fuck you" with impeccable timing.

It depends. Internet drama does not always translate into drama in reality. We will see that tomorrow. But Bernie has endorsed Hiliary, so it's not like they will get much out of him.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 25 2016 01:05 GMT
#88615
On July 25 2016 10:01 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:58 zlefin wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:57 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, and here's the other thing. For months and months, the media has been giving these clowns at the DNC cover to fuck Bernie over even when they clearly knew what was going on. I hope all of you disillusioned liberals pay very careful attention to that fact.

nope. because you're aserting the media being in on it is not a fact; it's an opinion, with inadequate foundation; especially given your long history of bias on such issues.
Then again, maybe I'm not in the category of people you were referring to, in which case, nevermind and forget I said anything.

Really? Who do you think Donna Brazile is?

dunno. I'll need a fe wminutes to read the wiki page; and i'm playing a game in the background, so gimme 15-30 minutes.

Make sure that you also read the emails showing DWS working with CBS news to buttress Hillary against Bernie.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
July 25 2016 01:14 GMT
#88616
On July 25 2016 10:05 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 10:01 zlefin wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:58 zlefin wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:57 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, and here's the other thing. For months and months, the media has been giving these clowns at the DNC cover to fuck Bernie over even when they clearly knew what was going on. I hope all of you disillusioned liberals pay very careful attention to that fact.

nope. because you're aserting the media being in on it is not a fact; it's an opinion, with inadequate foundation; especially given your long history of bias on such issues.
Then again, maybe I'm not in the category of people you were referring to, in which case, nevermind and forget I said anything.

Really? Who do you think Donna Brazile is?

dunno. I'll need a fe wminutes to read the wiki page; and i'm playing a game in the background, so gimme 15-30 minutes.

Make sure that you also read the emails showing DWS working with CBS news to buttress Hillary against Bernie.

I googled those; it'll take some more time to look through those as well.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 25 2016 01:14 GMT
#88617
On July 25 2016 10:05 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 10:01 zlefin wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:58 zlefin wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:57 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, and here's the other thing. For months and months, the media has been giving these clowns at the DNC cover to fuck Bernie over even when they clearly knew what was going on. I hope all of you disillusioned liberals pay very careful attention to that fact.

nope. because you're aserting the media being in on it is not a fact; it's an opinion, with inadequate foundation; especially given your long history of bias on such issues.
Then again, maybe I'm not in the category of people you were referring to, in which case, nevermind and forget I said anything.

Really? Who do you think Donna Brazile is?

dunno. I'll need a fe wminutes to read the wiki page; and i'm playing a game in the background, so gimme 15-30 minutes.

Make sure that you also read the emails showing DWS working with CBS news to buttress Hillary against Bernie.


If you guys get to disbelieve everything the media says about Trump then we get to disbelieve everything Peter Schweizer says about Hillary.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 01:18:46
July 25 2016 01:18 GMT
#88618
On July 25 2016 10:05 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 10:01 zlefin wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:58 zlefin wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:57 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, and here's the other thing. For months and months, the media has been giving these clowns at the DNC cover to fuck Bernie over even when they clearly knew what was going on. I hope all of you disillusioned liberals pay very careful attention to that fact.

nope. because you're aserting the media being in on it is not a fact; it's an opinion, with inadequate foundation; especially given your long history of bias on such issues.
Then again, maybe I'm not in the category of people you were referring to, in which case, nevermind and forget I said anything.

Really? Who do you think Donna Brazile is?

dunno. I'll need a fe wminutes to read the wiki page; and i'm playing a game in the background, so gimme 15-30 minutes.

Make sure that you also read the emails showing DWS working with CBS news to buttress Hillary against Bernie.

Yeah, that's when I threw in the towel. Gh was right. What an insane election.

I just wish I knew what they were thinking hiring her. I have to know. It defies reason in so many ways that it makes me think dws has what it takes to full on take down Clinton. They could be soul linked so to speak. I am legitimately thinking Bernie could come out of the convention as the nominee. I hope he does. Sure didn't expect myself to be saying that the night before the convention. Christ.
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
July 25 2016 01:19 GMT
#88619
On July 25 2016 10:18 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 10:05 xDaunt wrote:
On July 25 2016 10:01 zlefin wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:58 zlefin wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:57 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, and here's the other thing. For months and months, the media has been giving these clowns at the DNC cover to fuck Bernie over even when they clearly knew what was going on. I hope all of you disillusioned liberals pay very careful attention to that fact.

nope. because you're aserting the media being in on it is not a fact; it's an opinion, with inadequate foundation; especially given your long history of bias on such issues.
Then again, maybe I'm not in the category of people you were referring to, in which case, nevermind and forget I said anything.

Really? Who do you think Donna Brazile is?

dunno. I'll need a fe wminutes to read the wiki page; and i'm playing a game in the background, so gimme 15-30 minutes.

Make sure that you also read the emails showing DWS working with CBS news to buttress Hillary against Bernie.

Yeah, that's when I threw in the towel. Gh was right. What an insane election.

I just wish I knew what they were thinking hiring her. I have to know. It defies reason in so many ways that it makes me think dws has what it takes to full on take down Clinton. They could be soul linked so to speak. I am legitimately thinking Bernie could come out of the convention as the nominee. I hope he does. Sure didn't expect myself to be saying that the night before the convention. Christ.


Why is cnn not covering the part about her hiring dws? There has been no mention of it.
Question.?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 25 2016 01:23 GMT
#88620
On July 25 2016 10:19 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 10:18 Mohdoo wrote:
On July 25 2016 10:05 xDaunt wrote:
On July 25 2016 10:01 zlefin wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:58 zlefin wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:57 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, and here's the other thing. For months and months, the media has been giving these clowns at the DNC cover to fuck Bernie over even when they clearly knew what was going on. I hope all of you disillusioned liberals pay very careful attention to that fact.

nope. because you're aserting the media being in on it is not a fact; it's an opinion, with inadequate foundation; especially given your long history of bias on such issues.
Then again, maybe I'm not in the category of people you were referring to, in which case, nevermind and forget I said anything.

Really? Who do you think Donna Brazile is?

dunno. I'll need a fe wminutes to read the wiki page; and i'm playing a game in the background, so gimme 15-30 minutes.

Make sure that you also read the emails showing DWS working with CBS news to buttress Hillary against Bernie.

Yeah, that's when I threw in the towel. Gh was right. What an insane election.

I just wish I knew what they were thinking hiring her. I have to know. It defies reason in so many ways that it makes me think dws has what it takes to full on take down Clinton. They could be soul linked so to speak. I am legitimately thinking Bernie could come out of the convention as the nominee. I hope he does. Sure didn't expect myself to be saying that the night before the convention. Christ.

Why is cnn not covering the part about her hiring dws? There has been no mention of it.

Who cares, no one watches CNN.
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