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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 23 2016 03:02 GMT
#88341
Trump has certainly had a string of good luck lately. I still don't think he is favored but the chance of a Trump win is not small.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 03:21:00
July 23 2016 03:18 GMT
#88342
At first glance, Kaine seems like the most reasonable person on the ballot from either party (better than Hillary, better than Trump, certainly better than Pence). VP doesn't really matter all that much though, so...meh.

That said, it's still early, and the internet still has plenty of time to dig up absurd shit he's said or done.
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
July 23 2016 03:35 GMT
#88343
On July 23 2016 11:56 Plansix wrote:


That is the scariest tweet I've ever read :/
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 03:50:06
July 23 2016 03:47 GMT
#88344
On July 23 2016 12:35 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 11:56 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/756681961809272832


That is the scariest tweet I've ever read :/

don't worry
hes been wrong in the past
Our emphatic prediction is simply that Trump will not win the nomination. It’s not even clear that he’s trying to do so.
© Current year.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 03:51:53
July 23 2016 03:49 GMT
#88345
On July 23 2016 12:35 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 11:56 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/756681961809272832


That is the scariest tweet I've ever read :/

Good. Vote. Folks need to scare the fuck out of democrats that are to busy whining they didn't get everything they wanted for Christmas.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 23 2016 03:58 GMT
#88346
On July 23 2016 12:35 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 11:56 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/756681961809272832


That is the scariest tweet I've ever read :/


Agreed. But I guess when you have a brown president, it's not far fetched a birther would be the next.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
July 23 2016 04:00 GMT
#88347
On July 23 2016 12:49 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 12:35 BlueBird. wrote:
On July 23 2016 11:56 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/756681961809272832


That is the scariest tweet I've ever read :/

Good. Vote. Folks need to scare the fuck out of democrats that are to busy whining they didn't get everything they wanted for Christmas.


Yeah I'm voting. My vote will not be for HRC unless polls change in my state though.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5080 Posts
July 23 2016 04:00 GMT
#88348
Well Cleveland didn't turn into a swirling vortex straight to hell (let's be honest, it already was) so maybe the Fart-In in Philadelphia won't be like this?

no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 23 2016 04:01 GMT
#88349
On July 23 2016 12:58 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 12:35 BlueBird. wrote:
On July 23 2016 11:56 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/756681961809272832


That is the scariest tweet I've ever read :/


Agreed. But I guess when you have a brown president, it's not far fetched a birther would be the next.

It's really typical of the left to suggest racism when there plenty of legitimate criticisms with the way.........

....fuck I can't do it. Yeah, we should have seen this comming when the birther thing never really died.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 23 2016 04:02 GMT
#88350
On July 23 2016 13:00 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 12:49 Plansix wrote:
On July 23 2016 12:35 BlueBird. wrote:
On July 23 2016 11:56 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/756681961809272832


That is the scariest tweet I've ever read :/

Good. Vote. Folks need to scare the fuck out of democrats that are to busy whining they didn't get everything they wanted for Christmas.


Yeah I'm voting. My vote will not be for HRC unless polls change in my state though.

If you are on a swing state, I don't fucking care what the polls are. I will find you!
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24354 Posts
July 23 2016 04:13 GMT
#88351
On July 23 2016 13:01 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 12:58 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 23 2016 12:35 BlueBird. wrote:
On July 23 2016 11:56 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/756681961809272832


That is the scariest tweet I've ever read :/


Agreed. But I guess when you have a brown president, it's not far fetched a birther would be the next.

It's really typical of the left to suggest racism when there plenty of legitimate criticisms with the way.........

....fuck I can't do it. Yeah, we should have seen this comming when the birther thing never really died.


I did. I told everyone back when they didn't strongly shut it down on the right.

I've actually been right about Republicans more often than Dems this election, maybe I should vote for Trump
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 04:40:16
July 23 2016 04:35 GMT
#88352
On July 23 2016 13:13 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 13:01 Plansix wrote:
On July 23 2016 12:58 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 23 2016 12:35 BlueBird. wrote:
On July 23 2016 11:56 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/756681961809272832


That is the scariest tweet I've ever read :/


Agreed. But I guess when you have a brown president, it's not far fetched a birther would be the next.

It's really typical of the left to suggest racism when there plenty of legitimate criticisms with the way.........

....fuck I can't do it. Yeah, we should have seen this comming when the birther thing never really died.


I did. I told everyone back when they didn't strongly shut it down on the right.

I've actually been right about Republicans more often than Dems this election, maybe I should vote for Trump


We would be happy to have you After this Hillary sabotage I've been hearing from you, why not.

That or support Hillary, since everyone here seems against you lol.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 04:54:09
July 23 2016 04:42 GMT
#88353
Literally fulfilling the stereotype of 'shills'

They made Craigslist posts on fake Trump jobs talking about women needing to be hot for the job and "maintain hotness"


https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803



Relevant to all the DNC controversy going on in how they mistreated Sanders

The Chairperson shall exercise impartiality and evenhandedness as between the Presidential candidates and campaigns. The Chairperson shall be responsible for ensuring that the national officers and staff of the Democratic National Committee maintain impartiality and evenhandedness during the Democratic Party Presidential nominating process.


http://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.democrats.org/Downloads/DNC_Charter__Bylaws_9.17.15.pdf
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24354 Posts
July 23 2016 04:57 GMT
#88354
On July 23 2016 13:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 13:13 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 23 2016 13:01 Plansix wrote:
On July 23 2016 12:58 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 23 2016 12:35 BlueBird. wrote:
On July 23 2016 11:56 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/756681961809272832


That is the scariest tweet I've ever read :/


Agreed. But I guess when you have a brown president, it's not far fetched a birther would be the next.

It's really typical of the left to suggest racism when there plenty of legitimate criticisms with the way.........

....fuck I can't do it. Yeah, we should have seen this comming when the birther thing never really died.


I did. I told everyone back when they didn't strongly shut it down on the right.

I've actually been right about Republicans more often than Dems this election, maybe I should vote for Trump


We would be happy to have you After this Hillary sabotage I've been hearing from you, why not.


If I was spiteful I would already be campaigning for Trump ready to be the next "Diamond and Silk" and believe me Hillary supporters wouldn't like it. I could think of a dozen Bernie supporters I've already talked to who if I said it was okay to support Trump they would happily hop aboard. Saying "I didn't support Trump until this black guy talked me into it" is a great out for white people who were already considering it but felt like it would make them racist.

Hillary folks should be thanking me for listening to Hillary and Ted and voting my conscience.

But who knows, maybe Trump suggests he just said what he said to get where he is and convinces both sides he's just saying what it takes to win and he wins.

As I pointed out before, based on how he's lived his life, one could argue that ends up with a much less bigoted GOP president that's only going to screw a lot of people out of a lot of money. Not to mention, he would make a much better opponent for a progressive in 2020 than Hillary's reelection.

And no joke, it's been a consistent theme of Trump supporters being more welcoming than Hillary supporters despite me being just as hard on him as I am on her (though I don't bother piling on most of the time). That's not unique to here either, Trump supporters are all "Yeah, they borked ya, I know you don't agree with everything but Trump's not bowing to the chamber of commerce or others on trade or campaign finance (the obvious move for him is to limit personal spending, killing two birds with one stone)."

Meanwhile Hillary supporters are all "Well you fu**ing lost, suck it up and vote for her or else!"

I mean, I actually have a clue about the serious (imo) problems with Trump beyond the crap about being Hitler, 'ists, etc... So the spite and such isn't likely to drive me to vote for Trump, but I've already seen some major Bernie folks (usually the more independent/angry ones) who already had enough and are selling Bernie folks on Trump as we speak. Spoiler alert: + Show Spoiler +
It's working about as well as Hillary up to this Kaine pick, since then it's gotten worse for Hillary.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 23 2016 05:24 GMT
#88355
Hillary grabbing Kaine is a doubling down on the milquetoast. At best, it's a naked attempt to try to lock up Virginia. He offers pretty much nothing else to the ticket.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 05:43:23
July 23 2016 05:30 GMT
#88356
"They made Craigslist posts on fake Trump jobs talking about women needing to be hot for the job and "maintain hotness"

Looks like a plant for the media. And of course, this forecloses the possibility of there being very bad things to report on about Trump. I can't forget to keep my cognitive bias in check.

EDIT: I guess it could be either a very dumb plant or a weird joke.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 23 2016 06:16 GMT
#88357
On July 23 2016 14:24 xDaunt wrote:
Hillary grabbing Kaine is a doubling down on the milquetoast. At best, it's a naked attempt to try to lock up Virginia. He offers pretty much nothing else to the ticket.


It's just a safe pick, I think. Not that picking Kaine has anything to do with a "milquetoast".
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 23 2016 06:49 GMT
#88358
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 23 2016 06:55 GMT
#88359
On July 23 2016 15:49 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
https://twitter.com/VinnyFacchino/status/756651466144841729


Thats pretty funny, how unprepared can you be for that question...
Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
July 23 2016 07:00 GMT
#88360
Nate Silver has accepted that his predictions have all been wrong and now predicts Trump to win, so as to make sure that Trump loses. Genius!
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