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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 18:42:45
July 21 2016 18:37 GMT
#87601
there is reportedly going to be a fart in at the convention

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qg766o0bidt16gq/Final Delegate Welcome Packet.PDF

if anyone is interested
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15721 Posts
July 21 2016 18:46 GMT
#87602
On July 22 2016 03:37 ticklishmusic wrote:
there is reportedly going to be a fart in at the convention

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qg766o0bidt16gq/Final Delegate Welcome Packet.PDF

if anyone is interested


... "Fart in"?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13997 Posts
July 21 2016 18:47 GMT
#87603
BLM is going to keep farting in the convention until they attach their changes to the part platform.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 18:57:33
July 21 2016 18:50 GMT
#87604
On July 22 2016 03:30 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
In 2002, Donald Trump’s running mate Mike Pence said condoms are a poor defense against sexually transmitted infections and diseases.

Pence’s comments came in response to then Secretary of State Colin Powell saying in an MTV forum that young people should protect themselves through safe sex with condoms.

“I think it’s important for young people, especially, to protect themselves from the possibility of acquiring any sexually transmitted disease, but especially to protect themselves from HIV/AIDS, which is a plague that is upon the face of the earth,” Powell said.

In an interview with CNN, Pence called Powell’s comments a “sad day,” and said he advocated for abstinence education. Pence said Powell’s call for condom use mislead millions of young people and put their lives at risk.

“Well, Wolf, I think it was — given the enormous stature that Colin Powell rightly has, not only in America but in the world community, it was a sad day. I don’t think any administration has had a worst day since boxers and briefs on MTV,” Pence said on CNN to Wolf Blitzer. “And the truth is that Colin Powell had an opportunity here to reaffirm this president’s commitment to abstinence as the best choice for our young people, and he chose not to do that in the first instance, but — and so I think it’s very sad.”

“The other part is that, frankly, condoms are a very, very poor protection against sexually transmitted diseases, and in that sense, Wolf, this was — the secretary of state maybe inadvertently misleading millions of young people and endangering lives,” continued Pence.

Pence said the solution was “too modern” for him.

“The problem is it was too modern of an answer, Wolf,” he said. “It was — it truly was a modern, liberal answer to a problem that parents like me are facing all over America, and frankly, all over the world.”

The Center for Disease Control says condoms can effectively protect from many of the most serious sexually transmitted diseases when applied correctly.


Source


In his defence, would you really risk having sex with someone with HIV and a condom? (numbers are 98%~)

Again, it's biased... He's saying it's important to emphasize that abstinence is an option, the only 100% safe one, and should be brought up and shown the advance of. You'll have plenty of time to have sex once you're an adult.

Anyway, I'm very pro-sex, and my partner and I have zero worry about conceiving (and only birth control is our method of choice), since the thought of an abortion is not a big concern for either of us. But I can respect people that have different opinions.

edit: Also, fuck Hillary. She's bringing up stuff from 2002, back then, she was anti-gay marriage herself.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23325 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 18:58:24
July 21 2016 18:53 GMT
#87605
On July 22 2016 03:37 ticklishmusic wrote:
there is reportedly going to be a fart in at the convention

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qg766o0bidt16gq/Final Delegate Welcome Packet.PDF

if anyone is interested


Curious they don't mention the corporate sponsored river cruise they are going on?

But no, it won't be in the schedule

Bernie didn't get such a terrible time slot because he was going to be the unifying force of the convention. The fracture in the Democratic party is much worse than publicized. People expecting a contrast in party unity will likely be very disappointed.

Bernie delegates are going to make very clear how stupid it is to run a campaign on "who do you believe will be worse" with a nominee who is less trusted than the least trusted/liked than any Republican candidate in ages.

Hillary is going to do everything in her power to try to fake the funk though. They've already threatened to kick people out and remove their credentials for booing. Her camp is already reneging on their promises in exchange for Bernie going to that NH event with Hillary, and plenty of other crap.

HillaryCo is going to try to pretend the party is united behind her and I don't think it's going to go as smoothly as she thinks. Despite the threats of basically destroying anyone's political career who voices opposition during the convention.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
July 21 2016 18:55 GMT
#87606
It'll be nice when the DNC finally rolls around so GH can stop with all this "I'm secretly getting insider information even though I'm as outside as it gets" nonsense.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11889 Posts
July 21 2016 18:55 GMT
#87607
On July 22 2016 03:47 Sermokala wrote:
BLM is going to keep farting in the convention until they attach their changes to the part platform.


We can hope the air conditioning can handle it since people normally fart in buildings.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23325 Posts
July 21 2016 19:02 GMT
#87608
On July 22 2016 03:55 farvacola wrote:
It'll be nice when the DNC finally rolls around so GH can stop with all this "I'm secretly getting insider information even though I'm as outside as it gets" nonsense.


I'm talking with several national delegates who are plenty "inside". I'll post pictures from the cruise after it happens.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15721 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 19:05:14
July 21 2016 19:04 GMT
#87609
On July 22 2016 04:02 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 03:55 farvacola wrote:
It'll be nice when the DNC finally rolls around so GH can stop with all this "I'm secretly getting insider information even though I'm as outside as it gets" nonsense.


I'm talking with several national delegates who are plenty "inside". I'll post pictures from the cruise after it happens.


How about this: Make your prediction what you think will happen. We'll hold you to that prediction. Saying you "know something" is meaningless. Either say what you are predicting, or stop with the pretentious nonsense. Bernie endorsed Clinton, something you insisted would never happen. It was a great endorsement at that.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2016 19:07 GMT
#87610
On July 22 2016 03:50 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 03:30 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
In 2002, Donald Trump’s running mate Mike Pence said condoms are a poor defense against sexually transmitted infections and diseases.

Pence’s comments came in response to then Secretary of State Colin Powell saying in an MTV forum that young people should protect themselves through safe sex with condoms.

“I think it’s important for young people, especially, to protect themselves from the possibility of acquiring any sexually transmitted disease, but especially to protect themselves from HIV/AIDS, which is a plague that is upon the face of the earth,” Powell said.

In an interview with CNN, Pence called Powell’s comments a “sad day,” and said he advocated for abstinence education. Pence said Powell’s call for condom use mislead millions of young people and put their lives at risk.

“Well, Wolf, I think it was — given the enormous stature that Colin Powell rightly has, not only in America but in the world community, it was a sad day. I don’t think any administration has had a worst day since boxers and briefs on MTV,” Pence said on CNN to Wolf Blitzer. “And the truth is that Colin Powell had an opportunity here to reaffirm this president’s commitment to abstinence as the best choice for our young people, and he chose not to do that in the first instance, but — and so I think it’s very sad.”

“The other part is that, frankly, condoms are a very, very poor protection against sexually transmitted diseases, and in that sense, Wolf, this was — the secretary of state maybe inadvertently misleading millions of young people and endangering lives,” continued Pence.

Pence said the solution was “too modern” for him.

“The problem is it was too modern of an answer, Wolf,” he said. “It was — it truly was a modern, liberal answer to a problem that parents like me are facing all over America, and frankly, all over the world.”

The Center for Disease Control says condoms can effectively protect from many of the most serious sexually transmitted diseases when applied correctly.


Source


In his defence, would you really risk having sex with someone with HIV and a condom?

Counter argument: All science and data shows that abstinence doesn’t fucking work. Condoms do. If you are going to prevent HIV, a condom is better than no condom. He should stop spreading false, misleading information based on his religious beliefs.

The man makes Victorians look sexually adventurous.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 19:09:57
July 21 2016 19:08 GMT
#87611
he also predicted that after pennsylvania bernie would be winning

i tossed the packet in to avoid a double post, fart in is separate.

i mean, i did just post the delegate packet so maybe i have insider information too? heck, maybe im going to be in philly next week
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23325 Posts
July 21 2016 19:12 GMT
#87612
On July 22 2016 04:04 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 04:02 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 22 2016 03:55 farvacola wrote:
It'll be nice when the DNC finally rolls around so GH can stop with all this "I'm secretly getting insider information even though I'm as outside as it gets" nonsense.


I'm talking with several national delegates who are plenty "inside". I'll post pictures from the cruise after it happens.


How about this: Make your prediction what you think will happen. We'll hold you to that prediction. Saying you "know something" is meaningless. Either say what you are predicting, or stop with the pretentious nonsense. Bernie endorsed Clinton, something you insisted would never happen. It was a great endorsement at that.


It's been confirmed by the delegations that Bernie was told if he didn't "endorse" he wouldn't be invited to speak at the convention and his delegates might not be allowed to participate either. That would include getting his folks on the platform committee and such

I'm not spilling the beans on the plan on the off chance it gets back to HillaryCo. It should just be pretty clear the party isn't as united as people would like to project. My prediction was that if people think the DNC convention is going to be an example of party unity, they are going to be disappointed.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 21 2016 19:16 GMT
#87613
I have insider information from all my Facebook friends : Bernie is going to win big.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 21 2016 19:19 GMT
#87614
On July 22 2016 04:12 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 04:04 Mohdoo wrote:
On July 22 2016 04:02 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 22 2016 03:55 farvacola wrote:
It'll be nice when the DNC finally rolls around so GH can stop with all this "I'm secretly getting insider information even though I'm as outside as it gets" nonsense.


I'm talking with several national delegates who are plenty "inside". I'll post pictures from the cruise after it happens.


How about this: Make your prediction what you think will happen. We'll hold you to that prediction. Saying you "know something" is meaningless. Either say what you are predicting, or stop with the pretentious nonsense. Bernie endorsed Clinton, something you insisted would never happen. It was a great endorsement at that.


It's been confirmed by the delegations that Bernie was told if he didn't "endorse" he wouldn't be invited to speak at the convention and his delegates might not be allowed to participate either. That would include getting his folks on the platform committee and such

I'm not spilling the beans on the plan on the off chance it gets back to HillaryCo. It should just be pretty clear the party isn't as united as people would like to project. My prediction was that if people think the DNC convention is going to be an example of party unity, they are going to be disappointed.

GH is right about the democrats having their own major unity problems. I have a connection at the highest levels of the Democrat Party (you'd be shocked if I told you) who confirmed as such to me earlier this year. The precise phrasing used was that the Democrats are about four years behind the Republicans in terms of division and dysfunction.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13997 Posts
July 21 2016 19:22 GMT
#87615
As a Minnesotan that was around for the love boat scandal I am very much looking forward to the DNC cruse. if you can't find hookers and booze there please Photoshop them in.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23325 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 19:24:48
July 21 2016 19:23 GMT
#87616
On July 22 2016 04:08 ticklishmusic wrote:
he also predicted that after pennsylvania bernie would be winning

i tossed the packet in to avoid a double post, fart in is separate.

i mean, i did just post the delegate packet so maybe i have insider information too? heck, maybe im going to be in philly next week


I know you all don't care, but two papers that have shown how the consistent discrepancies between exit polling and "results" and the consistency of Hillary winning in places without paper trails points to election fraud, though there will be no real investigation of it (like there would be if the UN was monitoring as they would in less developed countries).

If this was a Republican, Democrats would look at this totally differently




On July 22 2016 04:22 Sermokala wrote:
As a Minnesotan that was around for the love boat scandal I am very much looking forward to the DNC cruse. if you can't find hookers and booze there please Photoshop them in.


There's going to be an open bar without a doubt. Trying to ID hookers would be a game of PC roulette.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 21 2016 19:27 GMT
#87617
On July 21 2016 22:40 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 21:44 farvacola wrote:
Lol, it's like SoSexy and Gotunk are conservative bots who troll politics threads by posting randomly generated, anti-liberal snippets without any context. Like someone in the Europe thread said, I guess it's a new kind of Tourette's.

Probably the best you are going to get. This thread is certainly not conservative friendly based on the majority of posts I've read.


It really isn't. Half the time it's low quality republican bashing but if you dare criticize the left be prepared for the leftist brigade to come at you in full force.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19269 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 19:40:01
July 21 2016 19:39 GMT
#87618
On July 22 2016 04:27 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 22:40 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:44 farvacola wrote:
Lol, it's like SoSexy and Gotunk are conservative bots who troll politics threads by posting randomly generated, anti-liberal snippets without any context. Like someone in the Europe thread said, I guess it's a new kind of Tourette's.

Probably the best you are going to get. This thread is certainly not conservative friendly based on the majority of posts I've read.


It really isn't. Half the time it's low quality republican bashing but if you dare criticize the left be prepared for the leftist brigade to come at you in full force.

It's because the republican party in DC really does suck, but the ideals of a fiscal conservative are great. We are republicans poorly represented. Time to find a new party I say! I think dems are in the same boat and need to admit their representatives suck too.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 21 2016 19:41 GMT
#87619
On July 22 2016 04:39 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 04:27 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:40 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:44 farvacola wrote:
Lol, it's like SoSexy and Gotunk are conservative bots who troll politics threads by posting randomly generated, anti-liberal snippets without any context. Like someone in the Europe thread said, I guess it's a new kind of Tourette's.

Probably the best you are going to get. This thread is certainly not conservative friendly based on the majority of posts I've read.


It really isn't. Half the time it's low quality republican bashing but if you dare criticize the left be prepared for the leftist brigade to come at you in full force.

It's because the republican party in DC really does suck, but the ideals of a fiscal conservative are great. We are republicans poorly represented. Time to find a new party I say! I think dems are in the same boat and need to admit their representatives suck too.


Yep, pretty much this.

However you work with what you can, because there wont be any new parties coming around any time soon.
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
July 21 2016 19:43 GMT
#87620
It owuld be nice to have some non-sucky choices; maybe even some good ones.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
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