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On July 20 2016 12:14 CorsairHero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 12:05 Plansix wrote:On July 20 2016 11:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 20 2016 11:57 oBlade wrote:On July 20 2016 11:55 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 11:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This actress gave a really powerful speech "the left want to silence those who disagree with them" Well, Milo just got banned from Twitter. I was going to ask why, but I think it would be better to reword the question as "What incendiary dipshit thing did he post that was the final straw for Twitter?" He direct his fan base to harass the black actress from ghost busters who's name escapes me. And she decided not to put up with it. If he got banned for saying that then that's pathetic. Show nested quote +If at first you don't succeed (because your work is terrible), play the victim.
EVERYONE GETS HATE MAIL FFS
No, its reality. You see, she is a bigger star than Milo and did more could do more damage to them through negative PR. That is all Twitter cares about. They don't give a flying fuck about free speech, they care about their stock price. And she wasn't going to stop. So they banned him because he directed his shitty fanbase of racists to attack her. And yes, they are racists because they send her photos of burning crosses, photos of monkeys with her name on them and other forms of racist imagery.
This is the free market at work. Milo is a little narcissist that can't write for shit and is only around because he panders to shitty people. He finally picked the wrong fight to get into and lost.
On July 20 2016 12:20 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 12:14 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 12:05 Plansix wrote:On July 20 2016 11:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 20 2016 11:57 oBlade wrote:On July 20 2016 11:55 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 11:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This actress gave a really powerful speech "the left want to silence those who disagree with them" Well, Milo just got banned from Twitter. I was going to ask why, but I think it would be better to reword the question as "What incendiary dipshit thing did he post that was the final straw for Twitter?" He direct his fan base to harass the black actress from ghost busters who's name escapes me. And she decided not to put up with it. If he got banned for saying that then that's pathetic. If at first you don't succeed (because your work is terrible), play the victim.
EVERYONE GETS HATE MAIL FFS However, however apparently the majority of her 'criticism' had to do with her being an 'ape' or 'savage'. So 'play the victim' because 'you don't succeed' seems rather misplaced.
The part that got twitter in trouble was that she would tweet out the racist tweet and the response to the report staying it didn't violate their TOS. And other black celebrities were following and retweet those. Terrible PR for Twitter, which already has a bad reputation for doing nothing about harassment.
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I'm all for free speech, even being a piece of shit if that's REALLY what you want to do. But I've never understood this delusion that being on twitter or whatever site is some sort of right. The guy is a scumbag of the highest order to be sure and he played with fire for attention. I sort of agree twitter taking away his check mark was childish, not because I agree with the man at all but it's just petty. At that point you either ban him entirely or don't do anything IMO. Taking a verification check just makes it so people can impersonate you if you're a figure with stature which he was. That's just grade school BS. Equally as childish is going to the white house to cry about it like a baby, come on now.
The only real argument I've seen that's remotely compelling is they ban him but they let accounts that are openly supporting terrorism slide. The only counter argument there is that maybe the FBI or someone tells twitter to let those accounts slide so they can continue monitoring them. But yeah, ideally that sort of thing shouldn't fly either.
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Are you accusing the left leaning people in this thread of harassing Melania Trump? Or supporting the harassment?
On July 20 2016 12:30 OuchyDathurts wrote:
I'm all for free speech, even being a piece of shit if that's REALLY what you want to do. But I've never understood this delusion that being on twitter or whatever site is some sort of right. The guy is a scumbag of the highest order to be sure and he played with fire for attention. I sort of agree twitter taking away his check mark was childish, not because I agree with the man at all but it's just petty. At that point you either ban him entirely or don't do anything IMO. Taking a verification check just makes it so people can impersonate you if you're a figure with stature which he was. That's just grade school BS. Equally as childish is going to the white house to cry about it like a baby, come on now.
The only real argument I've seen that's remotely compelling is they ban him but they let accounts that are openly supporting terrorism slide. The only counter argument there is that maybe the FBI or someone tells twitter to let those accounts slide so they can continue monitoring them. But yeah, ideally that sort of thing shouldn't fly either.
Being verified provides a bunch of features that are useful for anyone who uses twitter in a professional fashion. Removing it wasn't' just symbolic, it removed a lot of the functionality of twitter as a serve for him.
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On July 20 2016 12:31 Plansix wrote:Are you accusing the left leaning people in this thread of harassing Melania Trump? Or supporting the harassment?
Neither I'm just sharing a relevant tweet. Is that not allowed anymore?
edit: SHIT I just turned into an archon
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On July 20 2016 12:21 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 12:14 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 12:05 Plansix wrote:On July 20 2016 11:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 20 2016 11:57 oBlade wrote:On July 20 2016 11:55 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 11:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This actress gave a really powerful speech "the left want to silence those who disagree with them" Well, Milo just got banned from Twitter. I was going to ask why, but I think it would be better to reword the question as "What incendiary dipshit thing did he post that was the final straw for Twitter?" He direct his fan base to harass the black actress from ghost busters who's name escapes me. And she decided not to put up with it. If he got banned for saying that then that's pathetic. If at first you don't succeed (because your work is terrible), play the victim.
EVERYONE GETS HATE MAIL FFS No, its reality. You see, she is a bigger star than Milo and did more could do more damage to them through negative PR. That is all Twitter cares about. They don't give a flying fuck about free speech, they care about their stock price. And she wasn't going to stop. So they banned him because he directed his shitty fanbase of racists to attack her. And yes, they are racists because they send her photos of burning crosses, photos of monkeys with her name on them and other forms of racist imagery. This is the free market at work. Milo is a little narcissist that can't write for shit and is only around because he panders to shitty people. He finally picked the wrong fight to get into and lost. Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 12:20 Falling wrote:On July 20 2016 12:14 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 12:05 Plansix wrote:On July 20 2016 11:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 20 2016 11:57 oBlade wrote:On July 20 2016 11:55 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 11:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This actress gave a really powerful speech "the left want to silence those who disagree with them" Well, Milo just got banned from Twitter. I was going to ask why, but I think it would be better to reword the question as "What incendiary dipshit thing did he post that was the final straw for Twitter?" He direct his fan base to harass the black actress from ghost busters who's name escapes me. And she decided not to put up with it. If he got banned for saying that then that's pathetic. If at first you don't succeed (because your work is terrible), play the victim.
EVERYONE GETS HATE MAIL FFS However, however apparently the majority of her 'criticism' had to do with her being an 'ape' or 'savage'. So 'play the victim' because 'you don't succeed' seems rather misplaced. The part that got twitter in trouble was that she would tweet out the racist tweet and the response to the report staying it didn't violate their TOS. And other black celebrities were following and retweet those. Terrible PR for Twitter, which already has a bad reputation for doing nothing about harassment.
Thanks for your explanation but I wouldn't group Dave Rubin under "shitty people".
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That's a patently absurd tweet.
For starters that a grand total of 1007 people, oh boy! Secondly who on the left is condoning any of that? I sure as fuck haven't seen them. People ripped on the speech but everyone I've seen has kept it respectful as to her herself. Not wanting to shit on her, she's seen as a victim of a awful speechwriter.
That dude is upset his personal friend got banned. He's got an axe to grind.
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On July 20 2016 12:21 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 12:14 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 12:05 Plansix wrote:On July 20 2016 11:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 20 2016 11:57 oBlade wrote:On July 20 2016 11:55 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 11:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This actress gave a really powerful speech "the left want to silence those who disagree with them" Well, Milo just got banned from Twitter. I was going to ask why, but I think it would be better to reword the question as "What incendiary dipshit thing did he post that was the final straw for Twitter?" He direct his fan base to harass the black actress from ghost busters who's name escapes me. And she decided not to put up with it. If he got banned for saying that then that's pathetic. If at first you don't succeed (because your work is terrible), play the victim.
EVERYONE GETS HATE MAIL FFS No, its reality. You see, she is a bigger star than Milo and did more could do more damage to them through negative PR. That is all Twitter cares about. They don't give a flying fuck about free speech, they care about their stock price. And she wasn't going to stop. So they banned him because he directed his shitty fanbase of racists to attack her. And yes, they are racists because they send her photos of burning crosses, photos of monkeys with her name on them and other forms of racist imagery. This is the free market at work. Milo is a little narcissist that can't write for shit and is only around because he panders to shitty people. He finally picked the wrong fight to get into and lost. Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 12:20 Falling wrote:On July 20 2016 12:14 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 12:05 Plansix wrote:On July 20 2016 11:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 20 2016 11:57 oBlade wrote:On July 20 2016 11:55 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 11:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This actress gave a really powerful speech "the left want to silence those who disagree with them" Well, Milo just got banned from Twitter. I was going to ask why, but I think it would be better to reword the question as "What incendiary dipshit thing did he post that was the final straw for Twitter?" He direct his fan base to harass the black actress from ghost busters who's name escapes me. And she decided not to put up with it. If he got banned for saying that then that's pathetic. If at first you don't succeed (because your work is terrible), play the victim.
EVERYONE GETS HATE MAIL FFS However, however apparently the majority of her 'criticism' had to do with her being an 'ape' or 'savage'. So 'play the victim' because 'you don't succeed' seems rather misplaced. The part that got twitter in trouble was that she would tweet out the racist tweet and the response to the report staying it didn't violate their TOS. And other black celebrities were following and retweet those. Terrible PR for Twitter, which already has a bad reputation for doing nothing about harassment.
Where are you reading that he directed people people to attack her?
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On July 20 2016 12:31 Plansix wrote:Are you accusing the left leaning people in this thread of harassing Melania Trump? Or supporting the harassment? Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 12:30 OuchyDathurts wrote:
I'm all for free speech, even being a piece of shit if that's REALLY what you want to do. But I've never understood this delusion that being on twitter or whatever site is some sort of right. The guy is a scumbag of the highest order to be sure and he played with fire for attention. I sort of agree twitter taking away his check mark was childish, not because I agree with the man at all but it's just petty. At that point you either ban him entirely or don't do anything IMO. Taking a verification check just makes it so people can impersonate you if you're a figure with stature which he was. That's just grade school BS. Equally as childish is going to the white house to cry about it like a baby, come on now.
The only real argument I've seen that's remotely compelling is they ban him but they let accounts that are openly supporting terrorism slide. The only counter argument there is that maybe the FBI or someone tells twitter to let those accounts slide so they can continue monitoring them. But yeah, ideally that sort of thing shouldn't fly either. Being verified provides a bunch of features that are useful for anyone who uses twitter in a professional fashion. Removing it wasn't' just symbolic, it removed a lot of the functionality of twitter as a serve for him.
Its still childish. Milo you were naughty so we're taking your gold star away. Either pull the trigger then or do nothing, don't beat around the bush.
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On July 20 2016 12:33 CorsairHero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 12:21 Plansix wrote:On July 20 2016 12:14 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 12:05 Plansix wrote:On July 20 2016 11:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 20 2016 11:57 oBlade wrote:On July 20 2016 11:55 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 11:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This actress gave a really powerful speech "the left want to silence those who disagree with them" Well, Milo just got banned from Twitter. I was going to ask why, but I think it would be better to reword the question as "What incendiary dipshit thing did he post that was the final straw for Twitter?" He direct his fan base to harass the black actress from ghost busters who's name escapes me. And she decided not to put up with it. If he got banned for saying that then that's pathetic. If at first you don't succeed (because your work is terrible), play the victim.
EVERYONE GETS HATE MAIL FFS No, its reality. You see, she is a bigger star than Milo and did more could do more damage to them through negative PR. That is all Twitter cares about. They don't give a flying fuck about free speech, they care about their stock price. And she wasn't going to stop. So they banned him because he directed his shitty fanbase of racists to attack her. And yes, they are racists because they send her photos of burning crosses, photos of monkeys with her name on them and other forms of racist imagery. This is the free market at work. Milo is a little narcissist that can't write for shit and is only around because he panders to shitty people. He finally picked the wrong fight to get into and lost. On July 20 2016 12:20 Falling wrote:On July 20 2016 12:14 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 12:05 Plansix wrote:On July 20 2016 11:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 20 2016 11:57 oBlade wrote:On July 20 2016 11:55 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 11:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This actress gave a really powerful speech "the left want to silence those who disagree with them" Well, Milo just got banned from Twitter. I was going to ask why, but I think it would be better to reword the question as "What incendiary dipshit thing did he post that was the final straw for Twitter?" He direct his fan base to harass the black actress from ghost busters who's name escapes me. And she decided not to put up with it. If he got banned for saying that then that's pathetic. If at first you don't succeed (because your work is terrible), play the victim.
EVERYONE GETS HATE MAIL FFS However, however apparently the majority of her 'criticism' had to do with her being an 'ape' or 'savage'. So 'play the victim' because 'you don't succeed' seems rather misplaced. The part that got twitter in trouble was that she would tweet out the racist tweet and the response to the report staying it didn't violate their TOS. And other black celebrities were following and retweet those. Terrible PR for Twitter, which already has a bad reputation for doing nothing about harassment. Thanks for your explanation but I wouldn't group Dave Rubin under "shitty people".
You are entitled hold an option I don't agree with. Its fine.
On July 20 2016 12:34 OuchyDathurts wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 12:31 Plansix wrote:Are you accusing the left leaning people in this thread of harassing Melania Trump? Or supporting the harassment? On July 20 2016 12:30 OuchyDathurts wrote:
I'm all for free speech, even being a piece of shit if that's REALLY what you want to do. But I've never understood this delusion that being on twitter or whatever site is some sort of right. The guy is a scumbag of the highest order to be sure and he played with fire for attention. I sort of agree twitter taking away his check mark was childish, not because I agree with the man at all but it's just petty. At that point you either ban him entirely or don't do anything IMO. Taking a verification check just makes it so people can impersonate you if you're a figure with stature which he was. That's just grade school BS. Equally as childish is going to the white house to cry about it like a baby, come on now.
The only real argument I've seen that's remotely compelling is they ban him but they let accounts that are openly supporting terrorism slide. The only counter argument there is that maybe the FBI or someone tells twitter to let those accounts slide so they can continue monitoring them. But yeah, ideally that sort of thing shouldn't fly either. Being verified provides a bunch of features that are useful for anyone who uses twitter in a professional fashion. Removing it wasn't' just symbolic, it removed a lot of the functionality of twitter as a serve for him. Its still childish. Milo you were naughty so we're taking your gold star away. Either pull the trigger then or do nothing, don't beat around the bush.
Yes, he should have been banned years ago. It should not have taken this long and him being suspended nearly 20 times. Twitter is a garbage service run by not awesome people.
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On July 20 2016 12:21 Plansix wrote:
The part that got twitter in trouble was that she would tweet out the racist tweet and the response to the report staying it didn't violate their TOS. And other black celebrities were following and retweet those. Terrible PR for Twitter, which already has a bad reputation for doing nothing about harassment.
Wow. Went through her twitter feed. That's some appalling garbage. Lots and lots of gorilla pictures, references to Harambe the gorilla and the like.
Ok I have been called Apes, sent pics of their asses,even got a pic with semen on my face. I'm tryin to figure out what human means. I'm out
"criticism"
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarzel/twitter-just-permanently-suspended-conservative-writer-milo?utm_term=.kcga0JNER#.vkMZo5rwV
According to the company, the permanent suspension isn’t a matter of speech as much as a matter of behavior — specifically, a violation of Twitter’s rules regarding the targeted abuse of specific users.
Here’s the statement, according to a Twitter spokesperson:
People should be able to express diverse opinions and beliefs on Twitter. But no one deserves to be subjected to targeted abuse online, and our rules prohibit inciting or engaging in the targeted abuse or harassment of others. Over the past 48 hours in particular, we’ve seen an uptick in the number of accounts violating these policies and have taken enforcement actions against these accounts, ranging from warnings that also require the deletion of Tweets violating our policies to permanent suspension.
We know many people believe we have not done enough to curb this type of behavior on Twitter. We agree. We are continuing to invest heavily in improving our tools and enforcement systems to better allow us to identify and take faster action on abuse as it’s happening and prevent repeat offenders. We have been in the process of reviewing our hateful conduct policy to prohibit additional types of abusive behavior and allow more types of reporting, with the goal of reducing the burden on the person being targeted. We’ll provide more details on those changes in the coming weeks.
Not that I like using buzzfeed as a source, but they were the ones with the quotes so...
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On July 20 2016 11:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 11:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
There is a Muslim on the stage, asking the RNC to pray with him.
Has anyone told him that he's absolutely at the wrong place? I think you might be rather biased about the demographic of the republican party.
What do you think the demographics of the Republican Party are?
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On July 20 2016 12:38 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 12:21 Plansix wrote:
The part that got twitter in trouble was that she would tweet out the racist tweet and the response to the report staying it didn't violate their TOS. And other black celebrities were following and retweet those. Terrible PR for Twitter, which already has a bad reputation for doing nothing about harassment. Wow. Went through her twitter feed. That's some appalling garbage. Lots and lots of gorilla pictures and the like. Show nested quote +
Ok I have been called Apes, sent pics of their asses,even got a pic with semen on my face. I'm tryin to figure out what human means. I'm out
"criticism"
Is this okay for her to retweet this?
I was under the impression calling other blacks Uncle Tom was racist itself.
edit - Not trying to justify what happened to her, bunch of internet trolls tweeting her shit like this below, but what she retweeted there seems like a pretty hateful thing to say too
+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/Lesdoggg/status/755163834894147589
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Are the democrats worried about the "black vote" at all?
They seem to be banking on the black vote to put them over the top and they have been strong with that minority but with all the recent trouble with the police and black lives matter, I don't see how they will be motivated to go out and vote in the first place. They wont vote trump, they just wont vote at all. Well that's my guess, I think turnout of black voters might be low this election.
Then they also want to go for the latino vote with a potential latino vp. But the latinos they pretty religious catholic and pro life. I don't see them making the switch to the democrats.
So that's how I think trump could win, a low turn out of black voters due to being very disappointed with "the system" in general.
Twitter,who cares about twitter.
Everything on twitter is forgotten the next day.
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hispanics switching to democrats? Aren't they pretty stable at least 60/40 in favor of the dems?
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On July 20 2016 12:45 pmh wrote:
Are the democrats worried about the "black vote" at all?
They seem to be banking on the black vote to put them over the top and they have been strong with that minority but with all the recent trouble with the police and black lives matter, I don't see how they will be motivated to go out and vote in the first place. They wont vote trump, they just wont vote at all. Well that's my guess, I think turnout of black voters might be low this election.
Then they also want to go for the latino vote with a potential latino vp. But the latinos they pretty religious catholic and pro life. I don't see them making the switch to the democrats.
So that's how I think trump could win, a low turn out of black voters due to being very disappointed with "the system" in general.
Twitter,who cares about twitter.
Everything on twitter is forgotten the next day.
Democrats aren't worried about losing the black vote, it's mainly about the level of turnout they get and how close they can come to Obama's numbers (Hillary obviously won't beat them). Black vote breaking 90%+ for the democrats is pretty normal.
The best poll for Trump on hispanics had his number at 33% with them, but that's a much higher number than the other polls have found, and Romney/Mccain were a fair bit lower.
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On July 20 2016 12:49 Nyxisto wrote:
hispanics switching to democrats? Aren't they pretty stable at least 60/40 in favor of the dems?
Yes, if not more so in some states. And they carry the black vote by like 90/10. The GOP sometimes gets zero percent black votes.
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I was under the impression calling other blacks Uncle Tom was racist itself.
It has become a derogatory term since the book was written, not doubt. I don't see how it is inherently a racist term, although I suppose it could be used in a racist way. But I'm not sure why it would be intrinsically racist.
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On July 20 2016 12:34 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 12:21 Plansix wrote:On July 20 2016 12:14 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 12:05 Plansix wrote:On July 20 2016 11:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 20 2016 11:57 oBlade wrote:On July 20 2016 11:55 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 11:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This actress gave a really powerful speech "the left want to silence those who disagree with them" Well, Milo just got banned from Twitter. I was going to ask why, but I think it would be better to reword the question as "What incendiary dipshit thing did he post that was the final straw for Twitter?" He direct his fan base to harass the black actress from ghost busters who's name escapes me. And she decided not to put up with it. If he got banned for saying that then that's pathetic. If at first you don't succeed (because your work is terrible), play the victim.
EVERYONE GETS HATE MAIL FFS No, its reality. You see, she is a bigger star than Milo and did more could do more damage to them through negative PR. That is all Twitter cares about. They don't give a flying fuck about free speech, they care about their stock price. And she wasn't going to stop. So they banned him because he directed his shitty fanbase of racists to attack her. And yes, they are racists because they send her photos of burning crosses, photos of monkeys with her name on them and other forms of racist imagery. This is the free market at work. Milo is a little narcissist that can't write for shit and is only around because he panders to shitty people. He finally picked the wrong fight to get into and lost. On July 20 2016 12:20 Falling wrote:On July 20 2016 12:14 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 12:05 Plansix wrote:On July 20 2016 11:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 20 2016 11:57 oBlade wrote:On July 20 2016 11:55 CorsairHero wrote:On July 20 2016 11:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This actress gave a really powerful speech "the left want to silence those who disagree with them" Well, Milo just got banned from Twitter. I was going to ask why, but I think it would be better to reword the question as "What incendiary dipshit thing did he post that was the final straw for Twitter?" He direct his fan base to harass the black actress from ghost busters who's name escapes me. And she decided not to put up with it. If he got banned for saying that then that's pathetic. If at first you don't succeed (because your work is terrible), play the victim.
EVERYONE GETS HATE MAIL FFS However, however apparently the majority of her 'criticism' had to do with her being an 'ape' or 'savage'. So 'play the victim' because 'you don't succeed' seems rather misplaced. The part that got twitter in trouble was that she would tweet out the racist tweet and the response to the report staying it didn't violate their TOS. And other black celebrities were following and retweet those. Terrible PR for Twitter, which already has a bad reputation for doing nothing about harassment. Where are you reading that he directed people people to attack her?
Don't be obtuse.
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