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On July 09 2016 08:42 NukeD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2016 08:40 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:36 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:31 Godwrath wrote:On July 09 2016 08:08 NukeD wrote:People should seriously be prosecuted for shit like this. Damn, the PC crowd at it again. Im like the most anti PC guy here. You just cant write stuff like that in the light of this big of a tragedy. we're talking about this week's US thing, right? on the scale of tragedies that barely registers (except for West-centrism). though I might be unclear on exactly which issue you referring to, so feel free to clarify. The Dallas shooting? Am I missing something here?
that compared to a lot of other things happening in the world, 5 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. That was the comparison I was noting. it doesn't even change much in the US homicide rate either; it doesn't even change the Dallas homicide rate notably.
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On July 09 2016 08:45 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2016 08:42 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:40 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:36 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:31 Godwrath wrote:On July 09 2016 08:08 NukeD wrote:People should seriously be prosecuted for shit like this. Damn, the PC crowd at it again. Im like the most anti PC guy here. You just cant write stuff like that in the light of this big of a tragedy. we're talking about this week's US thing, right? on the scale of tragedies that barely registers (except for West-centrism). though I might be unclear on exactly which issue you referring to, so feel free to clarify. The Dallas shooting? Am I missing something here? that compared to a lot of other things happening in the world, 5 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. That was the comparison I was noting. it doesn't even change much in the US homicide rate either.
Just wow.. Im honestly speechless.
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On July 09 2016 08:49 NukeD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2016 08:45 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:42 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:40 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:36 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:31 Godwrath wrote:On July 09 2016 08:08 NukeD wrote:People should seriously be prosecuted for shit like this. Damn, the PC crowd at it again. Im like the most anti PC guy here. You just cant write stuff like that in the light of this big of a tragedy. we're talking about this week's US thing, right? on the scale of tragedies that barely registers (except for West-centrism). though I might be unclear on exactly which issue you referring to, so feel free to clarify. The Dallas shooting? Am I missing something here? that compared to a lot of other things happening in the world, 5 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. That was the comparison I was noting. it doesn't even change much in the US homicide rate either. Just wow.. Im honestly speechless.
That'll come in handy given your opinions on free speech.
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In the silence of his speechlessness, a slight whoosh could be heard as something went over his head
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On July 09 2016 08:49 NukeD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2016 08:45 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:42 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:40 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:36 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:31 Godwrath wrote:On July 09 2016 08:08 NukeD wrote:People should seriously be prosecuted for shit like this. Damn, the PC crowd at it again. Im like the most anti PC guy here. You just cant write stuff like that in the light of this big of a tragedy. we're talking about this week's US thing, right? on the scale of tragedies that barely registers (except for West-centrism). though I might be unclear on exactly which issue you referring to, so feel free to clarify. The Dallas shooting? Am I missing something here? that compared to a lot of other things happening in the world, 5 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. That was the comparison I was noting. it doesn't even change much in the US homicide rate either. Just wow.. Im honestly speechless.
not sure how much longer I'll be on for; but if you think of something to say later, or want clarification, you can always pm, or just ask in thread and someone else may be able to answer it.
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On July 09 2016 08:45 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2016 08:42 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:40 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:36 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:31 Godwrath wrote:On July 09 2016 08:08 NukeD wrote:People should seriously be prosecuted for shit like this. Damn, the PC crowd at it again. Im like the most anti PC guy here. You just cant write stuff like that in the light of this big of a tragedy. we're talking about this week's US thing, right? on the scale of tragedies that barely registers (except for West-centrism). though I might be unclear on exactly which issue you referring to, so feel free to clarify. The Dallas shooting? Am I missing something here? that compared to a lot of other things happening in the world, 5 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. That was the comparison I was noting. it doesn't even change much in the US homicide rate either; it doesn't even change the Dallas homicide rate notably.
This line reasoning logically concludes in nihilism. Any tragedy is going to seem meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
-'2 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. the homocide rate hasn't really changed much' in response to the two blacks who were just executed by cops-
If someone had said that 2 days ago I wouldn't be surprised if they received a warning, let alone imagining the amount of people posting here who would pounce on it as being a morally questionable thing to say.
Personally it doesn't offend me I just think it's stupid to post about for the nihilistic conclusions it leads to when you apply that logic to your life.
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On July 09 2016 08:59 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2016 08:49 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:45 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:42 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:40 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:36 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:31 Godwrath wrote:On July 09 2016 08:08 NukeD wrote:People should seriously be prosecuted for shit like this. Damn, the PC crowd at it again. Im like the most anti PC guy here. You just cant write stuff like that in the light of this big of a tragedy. we're talking about this week's US thing, right? on the scale of tragedies that barely registers (except for West-centrism). though I might be unclear on exactly which issue you referring to, so feel free to clarify. The Dallas shooting? Am I missing something here? that compared to a lot of other things happening in the world, 5 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. That was the comparison I was noting. it doesn't even change much in the US homicide rate either. Just wow.. Im honestly speechless. not sure how much longer I'll be on for; but if you think of something to say later, or want clarification, you can always pm, or just ask in thread and someone else may be able to answer it.
Im just baffled how you do not view this as a tragedy. Honestly I was shocked that this occured, it was all over our news too.
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On July 09 2016 09:02 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2016 08:45 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:42 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:40 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:36 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:31 Godwrath wrote:On July 09 2016 08:08 NukeD wrote:People should seriously be prosecuted for shit like this. Damn, the PC crowd at it again. Im like the most anti PC guy here. You just cant write stuff like that in the light of this big of a tragedy. we're talking about this week's US thing, right? on the scale of tragedies that barely registers (except for West-centrism). though I might be unclear on exactly which issue you referring to, so feel free to clarify. The Dallas shooting? Am I missing something here? that compared to a lot of other things happening in the world, 5 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. That was the comparison I was noting. it doesn't even change much in the US homicide rate either; it doesn't even change the Dallas homicide rate notably. This line reasoning logically concludes in nihilism. Any tragedy is going to seem meaningless in the grand scheme of things. -'2 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. the homocide rate hasn't really changed much' in response to the two blacks who were just executed by cops- If someone had said that 2 days ago I wouldn't be surprised if they received a warning, let alone imagining the amount of people posting here who would pounce on it as being a morally questionable thing to say. Personally it doesn't offend me I just think it's stupid to post about for the nihilistic conclusions it leads to when you apply that logic to your life.
only if you're goign to be silly and slipper slope it into nihilism. but i'm not going to be silly, idunno what your plan is.
I'm only arguing about the scale of the tragedy, and with ample justification. I doubt that many people would post on it being morally questionable, as I never disputed whether it was tragic, merely the scale, again with ample justification.
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On July 09 2016 08:53 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2016 08:49 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:45 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:42 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:40 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:36 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:31 Godwrath wrote:On July 09 2016 08:08 NukeD wrote:People should seriously be prosecuted for shit like this. Damn, the PC crowd at it again. Im like the most anti PC guy here. You just cant write stuff like that in the light of this big of a tragedy. we're talking about this week's US thing, right? on the scale of tragedies that barely registers (except for West-centrism). though I might be unclear on exactly which issue you referring to, so feel free to clarify. The Dallas shooting? Am I missing something here? that compared to a lot of other things happening in the world, 5 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. That was the comparison I was noting. it doesn't even change much in the US homicide rate either. Just wow.. Im honestly speechless. That'll come in handy given your opinions on free speech.
Given his post Im the one you attack? Lol.
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On July 09 2016 09:02 NukeD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2016 08:59 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:49 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:45 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:42 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:40 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:36 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:31 Godwrath wrote:On July 09 2016 08:08 NukeD wrote:People should seriously be prosecuted for shit like this. Damn, the PC crowd at it again. Im like the most anti PC guy here. You just cant write stuff like that in the light of this big of a tragedy. we're talking about this week's US thing, right? on the scale of tragedies that barely registers (except for West-centrism). though I might be unclear on exactly which issue you referring to, so feel free to clarify. The Dallas shooting? Am I missing something here? that compared to a lot of other things happening in the world, 5 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. That was the comparison I was noting. it doesn't even change much in the US homicide rate either. Just wow.. Im honestly speechless. not sure how much longer I'll be on for; but if you think of something to say later, or want clarification, you can always pm, or just ask in thread and someone else may be able to answer it. Im just baffled how you do not view this as a tragedy. Honestly I was shocked that this occured, it was all over our news too.
My debate is abotu scale; 5 dead is not that big a tragedy. what about the other 40 people murdered in the US today? Let alone the far far worse things that have happened elsewhere.
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On July 09 2016 09:06 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2016 09:02 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:59 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:49 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:45 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:42 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:40 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:36 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:31 Godwrath wrote:On July 09 2016 08:08 NukeD wrote:
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People should seriously be prosecuted for shit like this. Damn, the PC crowd at it again. Im like the most anti PC guy here. You just cant write stuff like that in the light of this big of a tragedy. we're talking about this week's US thing, right? on the scale of tragedies that barely registers (except for West-centrism). though I might be unclear on exactly which issue you referring to, so feel free to clarify. The Dallas shooting? Am I missing something here? that compared to a lot of other things happening in the world, 5 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. That was the comparison I was noting. it doesn't even change much in the US homicide rate either. Just wow.. Im honestly speechless. not sure how much longer I'll be on for; but if you think of something to say later, or want clarification, you can always pm, or just ask in thread and someone else may be able to answer it. Im just baffled how you do not view this as a tragedy. Honestly I was shocked that this occured, it was all over our news too. My debate is abotu scale; 5 dead is not that big a tragedy. what about the other 40 people murdered in the US today? Let alone the far far worse things that have happened elsewhere.
I'd love to see you post like this every time a tragedy happens in America. 10/10
'Only 2 black people were executed by cops? Millions live in America 2 is not that many in the grand scheme of things. How many die in Chicago every day from black-on-black-violence?'
Like why even make that post
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Ten states lodged a new legal challenge on Friday against the Obama administration’s requirement that public schools allow transgender students to use bathrooms and locker rooms consistent with their gender identity.
The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Nebraska, comes after 11 other states sued to block the same policy in May. Barack Obama announced the new rules as his administration fought an intensifying battle with North Carolina, which passed a law barring transgender people from using bathrooms and other gendered facilities that don’t match the gender listed on their birth certificates. The federal policy applies to every public school district in the country, and districts that fail to comply risk forfeiting millions in federal funding.
With Friday’s lawsuit, the number of states challenging the policy reaches almost two dozen. Many observers predict that the battle will ultimately come before the supreme court.
Bathroom access is just one flashpoint in a far-reaching clash over transgender rights. This year alone, state lawmakers introduced dozens of bills that would permit broad discrimination against transgender individuals in hiring, housing and business, sometimes on the basis of religion.
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On July 09 2016 09:06 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2016 09:02 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:59 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:49 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:45 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:42 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:40 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:36 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:31 Godwrath wrote:On July 09 2016 08:08 NukeD wrote:
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People should seriously be prosecuted for shit like this. Damn, the PC crowd at it again. Im like the most anti PC guy here. You just cant write stuff like that in the light of this big of a tragedy. we're talking about this week's US thing, right? on the scale of tragedies that barely registers (except for West-centrism). though I might be unclear on exactly which issue you referring to, so feel free to clarify. The Dallas shooting? Am I missing something here? that compared to a lot of other things happening in the world, 5 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. That was the comparison I was noting. it doesn't even change much in the US homicide rate either. Just wow.. Im honestly speechless. not sure how much longer I'll be on for; but if you think of something to say later, or want clarification, you can always pm, or just ask in thread and someone else may be able to answer it. Im just baffled how you do not view this as a tragedy. Honestly I was shocked that this occured, it was all over our news too. My debate is abotu scale; 5 dead is not that big a tragedy. what about the other 40 people murdered in the US today? Let alone the far far worse things that have happened elsewhere.
Yes in cases of other 40 dead I would also deem that person's post as unaceptable and disrespective of the victims.
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On July 09 2016 09:11 NukeD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2016 09:06 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 09:02 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:59 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:49 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:45 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:42 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:40 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:36 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:31 Godwrath wrote:
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Damn, the PC crowd at it again. Im like the most anti PC guy here. You just cant write stuff like that in the light of this big of a tragedy. we're talking about this week's US thing, right? on the scale of tragedies that barely registers (except for West-centrism). though I might be unclear on exactly which issue you referring to, so feel free to clarify. The Dallas shooting? Am I missing something here? that compared to a lot of other things happening in the world, 5 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. That was the comparison I was noting. it doesn't even change much in the US homicide rate either. Just wow.. Im honestly speechless. not sure how much longer I'll be on for; but if you think of something to say later, or want clarification, you can always pm, or just ask in thread and someone else may be able to answer it. Im just baffled how you do not view this as a tragedy. Honestly I was shocked that this occured, it was all over our news too. My debate is abotu scale; 5 dead is not that big a tragedy. what about the other 40 people murdered in the US today? Let alone the far far worse things that have happened elsewhere. Yes in cases of other 40 dead I would also deem that person's post as unaceptable and disrespective of the victims.
Yet we see nobody bring those tragedies up.. See the problem? Or rather, his argument?
edit: to be clear, i don't necessarily share his views. I do understand what he's trying to say though.
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On July 09 2016 09:08 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2016 09:06 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 09:02 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:59 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:49 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:45 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:42 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:40 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:36 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:31 Godwrath wrote:
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Damn, the PC crowd at it again. Im like the most anti PC guy here. You just cant write stuff like that in the light of this big of a tragedy. we're talking about this week's US thing, right? on the scale of tragedies that barely registers (except for West-centrism). though I might be unclear on exactly which issue you referring to, so feel free to clarify. The Dallas shooting? Am I missing something here? that compared to a lot of other things happening in the world, 5 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. That was the comparison I was noting. it doesn't even change much in the US homicide rate either. Just wow.. Im honestly speechless. not sure how much longer I'll be on for; but if you think of something to say later, or want clarification, you can always pm, or just ask in thread and someone else may be able to answer it. Im just baffled how you do not view this as a tragedy. Honestly I was shocked that this occured, it was all over our news too. My debate is abotu scale; 5 dead is not that big a tragedy. what about the other 40 people murdered in the US today? Let alone the far far worse things that have happened elsewhere. I'd love to see you post like this every time a tragedy happens in America. 10/10 'Only 2 black people were executed by cops? Millions live in America 2 is not that many in the grand scheme of things. How many die in Chicago every day from black-on-black-violence?' Like why even make that post
I have on several occasions; also my post was in response to post #84438 iirc, I may not have followed the enitre previous chain fully.
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I'm not sure about you guys, but have you learned how to read dates? This post was made on the 6th. Before her brother went rampage.
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On July 09 2016 09:11 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2016 09:11 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 09:06 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 09:02 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:59 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:49 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:45 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:42 NukeD wrote:On July 09 2016 08:40 zlefin wrote:On July 09 2016 08:36 NukeD wrote:
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Im like the most anti PC guy here. You just cant write stuff like that in the light of this big of a tragedy. we're talking about this week's US thing, right? on the scale of tragedies that barely registers (except for West-centrism). though I might be unclear on exactly which issue you referring to, so feel free to clarify. The Dallas shooting? Am I missing something here? that compared to a lot of other things happening in the world, 5 dead isn't that big of a tragedy. That was the comparison I was noting. it doesn't even change much in the US homicide rate either. Just wow.. Im honestly speechless. not sure how much longer I'll be on for; but if you think of something to say later, or want clarification, you can always pm, or just ask in thread and someone else may be able to answer it. Im just baffled how you do not view this as a tragedy. Honestly I was shocked that this occured, it was all over our news too. My debate is abotu scale; 5 dead is not that big a tragedy. what about the other 40 people murdered in the US today? Let alone the far far worse things that have happened elsewhere. Yes in cases of other 40 dead I would also deem that person's post as unaceptable and disrespective of the victims. Yet we see nobody bring those tragedies up.. See the problem? Or rather, his argument?
I am talking about that black ladies twitter post specifically. I didnt go into anything else.
Anyway i dont see his argument. Because this is not such a big tragedy I shouldnt think that that lady went too far?
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On July 09 2016 09:16 mahrgell wrote:
I'm not sure about you guys, but have you learned how to read dates? This post was made on the 6th. Before her brother went rampage.
Well that changes things.
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Thats apologetic for the shooters in my opinion and i dont think its the right direction for her to take.
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