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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 08 2016 03:54 GMT
#79681
On June 08 2016 12:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:

Yeah, that thing was making the rounds and it was so clearly fake. "I just survived a violent attack, but likely my eyeliner and eyebow game are on point. No blood there."
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 08 2016 03:56 GMT
#79682
Borowitz Report is satire guys
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15679 Posts
June 08 2016 03:57 GMT
#79683
On June 08 2016 12:48 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 12:44 Mohdoo wrote:
Sanders vows to keep fighting for nomination even if Hillary is elected president



“If, on November 8th of this year, Hillary Clinton is elected President, we will have only begun to fight,” Sanders told a packed rally in San Francisco.

I would hope he would continue if people keep voting for him in his state. I am not a huge fan of Sanders, but that is what people who believe in things do.


Sorry, I should have included this is satire.

On June 08 2016 12:49 JumboJohnson wrote:
Sounds like an onion headline.


Yeah, it is.

More gold below:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
June 08 2016 03:58 GMT
#79684
Hard to laugh at those because a large % of them are Trump trolls.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-08 04:06:22
June 08 2016 03:59 GMT
#79685
Hillary is the projected winner in South Dakota, with around 51,2% of the vote to Sanders' 48,8%.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15679 Posts
June 08 2016 04:01 GMT
#79686
On June 08 2016 12:58 SK.Testie wrote:
Hard to laugh at those because a large % of them are Trump trolls.


Yeah, but I can pretend people are actually this sad
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12169 Posts
June 08 2016 04:02 GMT
#79687
I am anyway.

I wonder if that's the american way of being proud of winning or if you look like an ass even to Americans, I'm actually a little curious about that^^
No will to live, no wish to die
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-08 04:03:57
June 08 2016 04:03 GMT
#79688
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 08 2016 04:04 GMT
#79689
On June 08 2016 12:48 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 12:44 Mohdoo wrote:
Sanders vows to keep fighting for nomination even if Hillary is elected president



“If, on November 8th of this year, Hillary Clinton is elected President, we will have only begun to fight,” Sanders told a packed rally in San Francisco.

I would hope he would continue if people keep voting for him in his state. I am not a huge fan of Sanders, but that is what people who believe in things do.

belief isnt always worthy of respect. belief based on wrong facts or bad morals is bad
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15679 Posts
June 08 2016 04:05 GMT
#79690
On June 08 2016 13:03 kwizach wrote:
https://twitter.com/OKnox/status/740392616475394048


Well, this is huge.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 08 2016 04:07 GMT
#79691
On June 08 2016 13:03 kwizach wrote:
https://twitter.com/OKnox/status/740392616475394048

To be expected. Its time to end this, get Sanders a part of the platform and get to the real show.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
June 08 2016 04:14 GMT
#79692
The official statement from the White House:

+ Show Spoiler +


"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-08 04:15:45
June 08 2016 04:14 GMT
#79693
sanders will not get anything substantial platform wise, because his unique positions are mostly unworkable. most useful role for him is prob to talk about certain aspects of hillary's existing platform. stuff about helping distressed white folks etc. infrastructure advocacy maybe. he might also get some antitrust stuff, but be clear if he does discover this issue it would be clinton/obama giving this policy to him rather than the other way around.

the solution, as always, is for moderation from bernie rather than imaginary concessions from clinton.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15679 Posts
June 08 2016 04:29 GMT
#79694
On June 08 2016 13:14 oneofthem wrote:
sanders will not get anything substantial platform wise, because his unique positions are mostly unworkable. most useful role for him is prob to talk about certain aspects of hillary's existing platform. stuff about helping distressed white folks etc. infrastructure advocacy maybe. he might also get some antitrust stuff, but be clear if he does discover this issue it would be clinton/obama giving this policy to him rather than the other way around.

the solution, as always, is for moderation from bernie rather than imaginary concessions from clinton.


Obama can charm anyone. Even cranky ole Bernie.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-08 05:08:05
June 08 2016 04:32 GMT
#79695
In case anyone's interested, Politico just published an interesting piece on the last weeks of the Sanders campaign.

edit: seriously, read this (although it obviously has to be taken with more than a grain of salt).
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-08 04:47:39
June 08 2016 04:35 GMT
#79696
Goodbye America.

It was nice knowing you.
The progressive VP dream team of virtue signalling will crush the bigoted mind of America once and for all.

Time to learn Mandarin and warn China of the sheer stupidity of progressives. The West has fallen.

Progressives you still haven't riddled me this.
Do we allow men to rape women in what is supposed to be their own sports? Trans men just whooping ass everywhere?
http://americanmilitarynews.com/2016/06/transgender-teen-boy-dominates-girl-track-meet-girls-rightfully-lash-out/?utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=alt&utm_source=asmdss

Is there a cut off point? Does a trans man have to be feminine enough to be allowed into track/basketball/soccer for women? Or if he has too manly a shape does he not apply for womans sports? These girls are pissed that a boy was allowed to compete. How do we tell them that's just the new way now?
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
June 08 2016 04:36 GMT
#79697
I'd really like to see Hillary take a more moderate/leftist approach to trade and FP, in which she is definitely more in line with the Republicans than with the Dems. A lot of Bernie's more unusual ideas are interesting things to ask for but not really very good policy choices, and it's reasonable to note that while he has some good ideas and valid concerns his overall platform doesn't exactly work.

So basically, Hillary differs from Bernie mostly on the issues that most people don't really care about.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15679 Posts
June 08 2016 04:50 GMT
#79698
62% and not yet ready to call shows what an interesting election this has been lol
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-08 05:11:56
June 08 2016 05:00 GMT
#79699
On June 08 2016 13:35 SK.Testie wrote:
Goodbye America.

It was nice knowing you.
The progressive VP dream team of virtue signalling will crush the bigoted mind of America once and for all.

Time to learn Mandarin and warn China of the sheer stupidity of progressives. The West has fallen.

Progressives you still haven't riddled me this.
Do we allow men to rape women in what is supposed to be their own sports? Trans men just whooping ass everywhere?
http://americanmilitarynews.com/2016/06/transgender-teen-boy-dominates-girl-track-meet-girls-rightfully-lash-out/?utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=alt&utm_source=asmdss

Is there a cut off point? Does a trans man have to be feminine enough to be allowed into track/basketball/soccer for women? Or if he has too manly a shape does he not apply for womans sports? These girls are pissed that a boy was allowed to compete. How do we tell them that's just the new way now?


Dominates is a bit of a stretch considering she finished 3rd in her race . Followup on your own source braah. I thought everything was backed up.

Its interesting how the domination article chose to leave that out.

+ Show Spoiler [on the subject itself ] +
Also there is nothing wrong with regulating gender specific sports.

But if the rules arent in place and the school allows it. I dont see the problem. Most transgenders as they grow older generally start trending hormone wise toward the sex they identify with so I doubt there is any sort of serious advantage in professional or college level athletics.

Unless there is evidence of a systematic problem and not isolated cases of little girls feeling cheated by someone who didn't even win because state athletics people were to lazy to regulate there are bigger problems to solve.

It is an interesting question though but easily solved by having rules in place.

Competition is not the same as basic rights. You can have lots of barriers on competition to ensure fairness and thats fine.

Might aswell complain about the blade runner while you are at it.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15679 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-08 05:07:33
June 08 2016 05:06 GMT
#79700
On June 08 2016 13:35 SK.Testie wrote:
Progressives you still haven't riddled me this.
Do we allow men to rape women in what is supposed to be their own sports? Trans men just whooping ass everywhere?
http://americanmilitarynews.com/2016/06/transgender-teen-boy-dominates-girl-track-meet-girls-rightfully-lash-out/?utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=alt&utm_source=asmdss

Is there a cut off point? Does a trans man have to be feminine enough to be allowed into track/basketball/soccer for women? Or if he has too manly a shape does he not apply for womans sports? These girls are pissed that a boy was allowed to compete. How do we tell them that's just the new way now?


Trans women should absolutely not be playing in women's sports teams, in school at least. Trans women, at that age, are just dudes who feel really feminine (physically at least). I am all for cranking up trans rights whenever it makes sense, but school sports? That is just stupid.
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