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xDaunt
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Plansix
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GreenHorizons
United States23450 Posts
On May 14 2016 04:22 xDaunt wrote: You guys have to understand that at least 50% of Trump's strategy is to relentlessly troll the press to stay in the headlines. Anyone who hasn't picked this up by now has no idea what's going on. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On May 14 2016 04:22 xDaunt wrote: You guys have to understand that at least 50% of Trump's strategy is to relentlessly troll the press to stay in the headlines. Or... OR... now stay with me here... Trumps (a Presidential nominee) ideas are incoherent and ranging from stupid to brain dead and that keeps him in the headlines. If "trolling" the Press is constantly changing your stances or showing a shocking amount of ignorance on literally every single issue you talk about, then Trump is a genius. More likely, he stays in the headlines because he is a train wreck that keeps going, and going, and going... | ||
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Naracs_Duc
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On May 14 2016 04:27 Plansix wrote: I am sure it is crowd pleasing stuff that keeps eyeballs on him. But we all have to ask ourselves what he will do to the press when he had access to the FBI. You mean the guy that sued someone for commenting about finger size might or might not be a bit scary when given free command of the military industrial complex, guantanamo, and the patriot act? "He doesn't actually mean to kill americans, he's obviously just trolling future generations." | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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GreenHorizons
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On May 14 2016 04:48 GreenHorizons wrote: You guys really think that pledge thing wasn't an obvious troll that media fell for hook line and sinker? What pledge? The one that the RNC put up (i.e.not Trump), and that not a single person who signed it actually meant it because it was a childish, non-binding, attempt by the RNC to save face? | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23450 Posts
On May 14 2016 04:53 On_Slaught wrote: What pledge? The one that the RNC put up (i.e.not Trump), and that not a single person who signed it actually meant it because it was a childish, non-binding, attempt by the RNC to save face? No, the nazi salute thing. He knew what he was doing, what the crowd would do, and what the media would do. Everyone played along perfectly. | ||
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oBlade
United States5761 Posts
On May 14 2016 04:34 Naracs_Duc wrote: You mean the guy that sued someone for commenting about finger size Is this something that actually happened that I don't know about that you have a source for, or is it just part of the vortex? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On May 14 2016 05:00 oBlade wrote: Is this something that actually happened that I don't know about that you have a source for, or is it just part of the vortex? He got mad at Vanity Fair for an article that claimed he had small hands and held the grudge for decades, sending photos of himself to the owner with the hands circled and "See, normal size" written on the photo. For decades. The threatened to sue the artist who painted him with a tiny penis. I can see how people have a hard time keeping track. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On May 14 2016 04:55 GreenHorizons wrote: No, the nazi salute thing. He knew what he was doing, what the crowd would do, and what the media would do. Everyone played along perfectly. Then he's stupider than I thought. This sort of "Trolling" only makes sense if the majority of the country didn't already have an unfavorable view of you and doing something so blatant wouldn't add to that. Especially in combination with him doing stuff like refusing to denounce a white supremacist (was that Trolling too?) | ||
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DickMcFanny
Ireland1076 Posts
On May 14 2016 05:09 Plansix wrote: He got mad at Vanity Fair for an article that claimed he had small hands and held the grudge for decades, sending photos of himself to the owner with the hands circled and "See, normal size" written on the photo. For decades. The threatened to sue the artist who painted him with a tiny penis. I can see how people have a hard time keeping track. He also sued Jon Stewart. He sued Bill Maher because Maher made fun of Trump for saying that he, Trump, would pay five million dollars to see Obama's birth certificate. Bill Maher then said he'd pay Trump five million to show HIS birth certificate to show that he isn't the offspring of a human woman and an orange orangutan. He didn't sue him for libel, but for breach of contract! :D | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23450 Posts
On May 14 2016 05:11 On_Slaught wrote: Then he's stupider than I thought. This sort of "Trolling" only makes sense if the majority of the country didn't already have an unfavorable view of you and doing something so blatant wouldn't add to that. Especially in combination with him doing stuff like refusing to denounce a white supremacist (was that Trolling too?) I would usually agree, but he's always been doing better nationally than even Republicans claimed was his ceiling in their party. I wish his campaign didn't work in the US, but since he's been in a statistical tie as of late in battleground states, it's hard to argue it isn't. Either way it seems clear he's doing a lot of this stuff on purpose. Whether it works nationally or not is yet to be determined. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
This is your other candidate. Not exactly the beacon of trust and integrity. ![[image loading]](https://i.sli.mg/nLciLP.png) Even these kinds of attacks will just wash over Hillary supporters are not even a blip on the radar or not important. Thus a lot of stupid shit that comes out of Trumps mouth will also be unimportant. On May 14 2016 05:32 GreenHorizons wrote: I would usually agree, but he's always been doing better nationally than even Republicans claimed was his ceiling in their party. I wish his campaign didn't work in the US, but since he's been in a statistical tie as of late in battleground states, it's hard to argue it isn't. Either way it seems clear he's doing a lot of this stuff on purpose. Whether it works nationally or not is yet to be determined. There is *almost* no such thing as bad press. Any press is good press so long as you can turn it to your favour eventually. It's better to be a villain than to be completely unknown. There's some mention of this in his bestselling book, the art of the deal. | ||
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oBlade
United States5761 Posts
On May 14 2016 05:11 On_Slaught wrote: Then he's stupider than I thought. This sort of "Trolling" only makes sense if the majority of the country didn't already have an unfavorable view of you and doing something so blatant wouldn't add to that. Especially in combination with him doing stuff like refusing to denounce a white supremacist (was that Trolling too?) It works, intentional or not, because you have a media exhausting itself trying every trick in the book with him. So when you get "news" outlets going "Look at this, Trump had people raise their hands, eerily similar to the Nazis isn't it," normal people go, well no, obviously he's not a Nazi. It's this absurd behavior by the media that destroys their credibility. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Donny had to get daddy's signature on almost deal he did, Fred Trump was the Trump people actually wanted to do deal with. And don't forget the time that Fred bailed him out by buying a couple mill of poker chips so Donald's casino could make an interest payment. The honest version of the Art of the Deal? Have a rich dad who put in the work to make connections who is willing to guarantee everything you do. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On May 14 2016 05:35 SK.Testie wrote: Most of the attacks your listing on him in the last page are misinterpretations and strawmen. The most legit one is that he does indeed sue people for silly reasons. He finds the process fun I guess. This is your other candidate. Not exactly the beacon of trust and integrity. Even these kinds of attacks will just wash over Hillary supporters are not even a blip on the radar or not important. Thus a lot of stupid shit that comes out of Trumps mouth will also be unimportant. There is *almost* no such thing as bad press. Any press is good press so long as you can turn it to your favour eventually. It's better to be a villain than to be completely unknown. There's some mention of this in his bestselling book, the art of the deal. a) can I get a citation/source for that quote from hillary. b) so she did her job as a defense attorney, what's wrong with that? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
All right, can we stop with the shit memes? She was a defense attorney and took the case because that is the job of defense attorneys. The quote is out of context, like most quotes in memes. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On May 14 2016 05:42 zlefin wrote: a) can I get a citation/source for that quote from hillary. b) so she did her job as a defense attorney, what's wrong with that? you won't because it isn't real http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/mar/23/hillary-clinton-quotes-Internet-complete/ Can people stop getting their political opinions from memes please? | ||
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