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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24391 Posts
May 10 2016 06:28 GMT
#75581
On May 10 2016 14:50 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 14:31 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 10 2016 14:16 oneofthem wrote:
why? hillary would just steal that election with her vote rigging powers


Can we not pretend the vulnerabilities of electronic voting machines have not long been proven? I'd love Cascade to give us an independent analysis of exit polling/hand counted ballots vs electronic results.

All I can say is that even if she did win, we'd have the angriest most dissatisfied electorate in modern politics.

Trump said the only reason she's got a shot was because she's a woman, and that's already getting shrugs and "eh's" from people. Instead 50 of 60 minutes of Anderson Cooper was on Trump and Hillary's husbands infidelity, with analysis on whether Hillary was an enabler. Democrats seem to be clueless as to what they are in for.

okay. i agree people are dumb for not voting hillary. what's your point

That Trump would beat her, in part because of folks who share your mentality. You all won't see it until it's too late.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 09:40:25
May 10 2016 07:49 GMT
#75582
Off course trump is going to win.
Still it will take a few more months for the democrats to realize this, as said above.
And that makes this election and the discussion in this thread only more fun to watch.
The latest poll of Rasmussen has trump leading Clinton for the first time now nation wide.
Just a small lead for now, like 3 percent. Nothing to worry about folks,its all within the margin of error.

Vp for trump,who will it be?
Think condoleezza rice would be one of the best options for trump,but am not sure she would be up for the job.
Pros:She is a women. She is afro American, She has a good track record when it comes to national security,one of the soft spots of the democratic candidate.
Cons:i cant think of any, other then that she might not be available.
Just hope he wont pick Christie or some other white guy,i cant see that working out in the election.

Edit:didnt knew that about Rasmussen. I always assumed all polls where objective but I can imagine them being biased.
40% sounds about right to me for the moment if I am honest, maybe even a bit higher but probably not 50% or over yet.
That has to come in the coming months. Its an interesting moment now for the trump campaign. They crushed the republican primarys but campaigning for general election is something else.
Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1693 Posts
May 10 2016 08:06 GMT
#75583
On May 10 2016 16:49 pmh wrote:
Off course trump is going to win.
Still it will take a few more months for the democrats to realize this, as said above.
And that makes this election and the discussion in this thread only more fun to watch.
The latest poll of Rasmussen has trump leading Clinton for the first time now nation wide.
Just a small lead for now, like 3 percent. Nothing to worry about folks,its all within the margin of error.

Vp for trump,who will it be?
Think condoleezza rice would be one of the best options for trump,but am not sure she would be up for the job.
Pros:She is a women. She is afro American, She has a good track record when it comes to national security,one of the soft spots of the democratic candidate.
Cons:i cant think of any, other then that she might not be available.
Just hope he wont pick Christie or some other white guy,i cant see that working out in the election.


For some reason I think he's going with Carson, Rice still is viewed too closely with Bush imo.
The pretty things are going to hell, they wore it out but they wore it well
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
May 10 2016 08:39 GMT
#75584
didn't he say he looks for somebody in the establishment? I would say rubio makes a lot of sense but little marco just announced he's not interested in.
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
Cam Connor
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada786 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 08:56:48
May 10 2016 08:56 GMT
#75585
don't use rasmussen as proof of anything, it's notoriously republican biased and unreliable

that being said, i think we're yet to see the real trump v clinton effects of polls once he can start aggressively campaigning against her

betting markets have trump priced ~40% to win - that seems about right
he seems cheap at 30 and rich at 50
post to be
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 10 2016 11:46 GMT
#75586
America's culture war, waged in recent years over gender roles, sexuality and the definition of marriage, is increasingly being fought inside evangelical Christian circles. On one side are the Christians determined to resist trends in secular society that appear to conflict with biblical teaching. On the other side are the evangelicals willing to live with those trends.

For Albert Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., the key question is "whether or not there is a binding morality to which everyone is accountable."

Mohler is a cofounder of the biannual Together for the Gospel conference, which brought together thousands of evangelicals last month at a sports center in Louisville, a few miles from the Southern Baptist campus. Electronic signs around the top of the arena carried such messages as "We Were Born Out of Protest" and "We Stand On Scripture Alone, Not Man's Wisdom."

"Our theme for this year is, 'We Protest,' " Mohler tells NPR. "You might say [it's] putting the 'protest' back in Protestantism." He and his fellow conservative leaders urge Christians to take a "biblical" stand against such things as no-fault divorce, extramarital sex, transgenderism, and gay marriage. His new book is We Cannot Be Silent: Speaking Truth to a Culture Redefining Sex, Marriage, & the Very Meaning of Right & Wrong.

Mohler and other conservatives are pushing against strong headwinds, however. Survey data show that the number of Americans who think divorce is morally acceptable has increased significantly in recent years, while disapproval of homosexuality and same-sex marriage has declined sharply. [Click to see changing attitudes on homosexuality and same-sex marriage by religion.] The latter holds true even for white evangelicals, among the groups most resistant to LGBT rights. For church leaders like Mohler, the challenge is unmistakable.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
May 10 2016 13:12 GMT
#75587
On May 10 2016 13:46 GreenHorizons wrote:
I've said it before but I'll make it official. I'm calling Trump winning the general if it's Hillary v Trump, barring some catastrophic meltdown (which has seemed impossible so far).

Mods: are we allowed to discuss monetary bets with other posters? Or perhaps other types of bets?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
May 10 2016 13:40 GMT
#75588
WTF does that even mean... is GH holding some sort of office? Can I make it official that I'm king of coffee yogurt?
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 13:47:43
May 10 2016 13:44 GMT
#75589
On May 10 2016 22:12 kwizach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 13:46 GreenHorizons wrote:
I've said it before but I'll make it official. I'm calling Trump winning the general if it's Hillary v Trump, barring some catastrophic meltdown (which has seemed impossible so far).

Mods: are we allowed to discuss monetary bets with other posters? Or perhaps other types of bets?


iirc considering kwark bet money on the primaries pretty sure its ok
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
May 10 2016 13:49 GMT
#75590
Bernie fanatics see the world somehow deciding not to rally behind Bernie as a sign that everyone is crazy and must be about to elect Trump. There's clearly no other explanation for people not wanting Bernie to be president.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14211 Posts
May 10 2016 13:55 GMT
#75591
No one is even explaining how trump somehow truns the board to make him win. Likeability is a huge factor in elections (just showing that bernie had even a foot in the race) and trump has no likeability even if polls have him level. Undecided just don't break for people they don't like.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 14:00:15
May 10 2016 13:58 GMT
#75592
I am very pro-bernie and it's annoying as shit to come in here and like 5 times on every page be told what I am thinking by someone who is extremely biased and actually has no clue what I am thinking. Please click the post button less often unless you are actually going to post something that has a purpose other than circlejerking with likeminded people. (to mohdoo and oneofthem)
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 14:04:53
May 10 2016 14:03 GMT
#75593
On May 10 2016 22:58 travis wrote:
I am very pro-bernie and it's annoying as shit to come in here and like 5 times on every page be told what I am thinking by someone who is extremely biased and actually has no clue what I am thinking. Please click the post button less often unless you are actually going to post something that has a purpose other than circlejerking with likeminded people. (to mohdoo and oneofthem)


I have made 2 posts in 5 pages.

edit: 3 now

Edit: Is Bernie going to be president?
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 10 2016 14:06 GMT
#75594
On May 10 2016 22:55 Sermokala wrote:
No one is even explaining how trump somehow truns the board to make him win. Likeability is a huge factor in elections (just showing that bernie had even a foot in the race) and trump has no likeability even if polls have him level. Undecided just don't break for people they don't like.


Because they're not arguing for Trump to win, they're arguing for people to vote for Bernie. Even if the only poll agreeing with them are republican ones, even if the only voting groups that agree with them are republican ones. When you have a candidate that is 3 million votes behind, behind on delegates, behind on political support, and even behind on experts, who has multiple times shot his own foot when interviewed by democratic journalists when asked about his own policies--the only thing you can do is mimic Trumps tactics and have your people harass Hilary supporters as well as begin campaigning for Trump.

Because in the end, the person Bernie closest to is Trump. An outsider who does not use Superpacs who tries in vain to fight globalization with the hope that so long as its only brown people killing each other then that means all is right with the world.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 10 2016 14:08 GMT
#75595
On May 10 2016 22:58 travis wrote:
I am very pro-bernie and it's annoying as shit to come in here and like 5 times on every page be told what I am thinking by someone who is extremely biased and actually has no clue what I am thinking. Please click the post button less often unless you are actually going to post something that has a purpose other than circlejerking with likeminded people. (to mohdoo and oneofthem)


Lets talk specifics in policy then!

Bernie does not want to stop atrocities in the middle east and his foreign policy plan is hoping to throw more dark skinned people into the meat grinder--how do you think that will help resolve issues in the middle east or do you simple don't care about trying to help people in need?
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 10 2016 14:11 GMT
#75596
On May 10 2016 22:55 Sermokala wrote:
No one is even explaining how trump somehow truns the board to make him win. Likeability is a huge factor in elections (just showing that bernie had even a foot in the race) and trump has no likeability even if polls have him level. Undecided just don't break for people they don't like.

Hillary isn't likable, either. The structure of a potential Trump victory is pretty easy to see: Trump rides a wave of anti-establishment sentiment to victory against the ultimate establishment candidate. Hillary is uniquely vulnerable to Trump.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 14:14:55
May 10 2016 14:11 GMT
#75597
On May 10 2016 22:55 Sermokala wrote:
No one is even explaining how trump somehow truns the board to make him win. Likeability is a huge factor in elections (just showing that bernie had even a foot in the race) and trump has no likeability even if polls have him level. Undecided just don't break for people they don't like.

Not sure what you're on about here - he's against Hillary, one of the most unlikeable politicians out there, this will hardly be a factor.

I hope she wins as I have interest in the dollar, but it won't be on likeability, she's pretty much a flip flopping insincere opportunistic, poll driven large donor influenced dishonest person and I think a ton of people that will vote for her know that themselves - they'll vote for her despite how (un)likeable she is.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 14:20:01
May 10 2016 14:18 GMT
#75598
And I'm wondering to Bernie supporters here - will you get up and vote for Hillary in the general election?
I really hope you won't be bitter and her beating Bernie won't stop you from helping Trump lose.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 10 2016 14:19 GMT
#75599
If we compare the u favorable/unfavorable ratings, there is a 15 point spread between the two of them that favors Hilary. Trump is dangerously close to 70% unfavorable. Considering independent, minority and women voters will decide this election, Trump has a huge hill to climb before November.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 10 2016 14:22 GMT
#75600
On May 10 2016 23:08 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 22:58 travis wrote:
I am very pro-bernie and it's annoying as shit to come in here and like 5 times on every page be told what I am thinking by someone who is extremely biased and actually has no clue what I am thinking. Please click the post button less often unless you are actually going to post something that has a purpose other than circlejerking with likeminded people. (to mohdoo and oneofthem)


Lets talk specifics in policy then!

Bernie does not want to stop atrocities in the middle east and his foreign policy plan is hoping to throw more dark skinned people into the meat grinder--how do you think that will help resolve issues in the middle east or do you simple don't care about trying to help people in need?


Why would I reply to this?

"bernie does not want to stop atrocities in the middle east"

ehhhh. no thanks to this conversation
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