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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45049 Posts
May 05 2016 02:01 GMT
#74821
On May 05 2016 10:56 SK.Testie wrote:
She has 1000 clips to choose from.
I'm for Trump but these attack ads are going to be a whole new level of great.


And the best part is that she doesn't need to say anything at all, or even quote Democrats. She can just quote Republicans all day long.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
May 05 2016 02:01 GMT
#74822
Yeah, those look significantly more targeted and potentially effective than the Republicans bashing Trump, since they come off as whiny more than anything else. I hope she goes with the direction of #2, because she can bash his positions far harder than the Republicans can because his positions take a lot of what R support to the extreme, so they can't really bash it directly or properly.

Though I remember one of the most effective attack ads I ever watched was by Obama against Hillary. It had four different still frames of Hillary, and one at a time they turned into video clips, where Hillary directly contradicted herself and came off as a major flip-flopper.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4862 Posts
May 05 2016 02:01 GMT
#74823
This is one of the problems. Hillary could go the whole election cycle without anyone even hearing her voice, all she needs are these ads. Lucky for her, too.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
May 05 2016 02:02 GMT
#74824
On May 05 2016 10:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Absolutely BRUTAL attack ad by Hillary on Trump:

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/hillary-clinton-wont-let-republicans-forget-never-trump


Good lord. What do people even say to this?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 05 2016 02:04 GMT
#74825
On May 05 2016 11:02 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 10:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Absolutely BRUTAL attack ad by Hillary on Trump:

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/hillary-clinton-wont-let-republicans-forget-never-trump


Good lord. What do people even say to this?

It doesn't matter. There is nothing new in the ad.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
May 05 2016 02:07 GMT
#74826
I don't think the general population is as crazy as the voterbase that won Trump the nomination, if this doesn't really change anything you can as well abolish democracy
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
May 05 2016 02:07 GMT
#74827
Not sure if showing clips of people whom the public largely dislikes or hates saying bad things about Trump will do much. Didn't do anything when they did it.
Never Knows Best.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45049 Posts
May 05 2016 02:08 GMT
#74828
On May 05 2016 11:02 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 10:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Absolutely BRUTAL attack ad by Hillary on Trump:

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/hillary-clinton-wont-let-republicans-forget-never-trump


Good lord. What do people even say to this?


I guess Trump could just say that these Republicans were all politicians, establishment candidates, losers, and didn't want to see him succeed where they couldn't... they were all peanut butter and jealous of his success both as a businessman and now as a politician.

But based on his previous rhetoric, I think the reply he's going to give is something along the lines of "The wall just got ten feet higher!"
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5765 Posts
May 05 2016 02:09 GMT
#74829
On May 05 2016 11:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 10:56 SK.Testie wrote:
She has 1000 clips to choose from.
I'm for Trump but these attack ads are going to be a whole new level of great.


And the best part is that she doesn't need to say anything at all, or even quote Democrats. She can just quote Republicans all day long.

Well, if those quotes didn't work on the primary trail, why should they be more effective in the general election?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4862 Posts
May 05 2016 02:09 GMT
#74830
The whole idea is not necessarily to gain new voters, it's to keep everyone where they are. Maintain his record high negative image. That's why Hillary doesn't appear in the ad at all.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 05 2016 02:10 GMT
#74831
On May 05 2016 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Not sure if showing clips of people whom the public largely dislikes or hates saying bad things about Trump will do much. Didn't do anything when they did it.

Bingo. Here's the critical point that people need to understand: nothing that Hillary is going to do will ultimately matter in all likelihood. This election is about Trump. Either his populist, pro-working class message is going to resonate or it won't.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45049 Posts
May 05 2016 02:13 GMT
#74832
On May 05 2016 11:04 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 11:02 Mohdoo wrote:
On May 05 2016 10:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Absolutely BRUTAL attack ad by Hillary on Trump:

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/hillary-clinton-wont-let-republicans-forget-never-trump


Good lord. What do people even say to this?

It doesn't matter. There is nothing new in the ad.


There doesn't really need to be, though. While some Republicans won't vote for Hillary no matter what (because she represents the Democratic establishment), others won't vote for Trump because he's not a Republican either and he's majorly screwing up their party. Hillary's using mainstream Republicans as a shield by quoting them.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 05 2016 02:34 GMT
#74833
On May 05 2016 10:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Absolutely BRUTAL attack ad by Hillary on Trump:

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/hillary-clinton-wont-let-republicans-forget-never-trump


Sorry but i think this is terrible. Weird music in the background, followed by a bunch of disliked POLITICIANS saying whiny things about a guy who kicked their asses.

I'm very liberal so I strongly dislike Trump, but this ad sucks.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
May 05 2016 02:34 GMT
#74834
On May 05 2016 11:10 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Not sure if showing clips of people whom the public largely dislikes or hates saying bad things about Trump will do much. Didn't do anything when they did it.

Bingo. Here's the critical point that people need to understand: nothing that Hillary is going to do will ultimately matter in all likelihood. This election is about Trump. Either his populist, pro-working class message is going to resonate or it won't.

Nonsense. Most voters are not concerned about only one issue, and negative ads can very much have an effect -- and they have, given Trump's favorability ratings in the general electorate.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 02:37:05
May 05 2016 02:36 GMT
#74835
On May 05 2016 11:34 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 10:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Absolutely BRUTAL attack ad by Hillary on Trump:

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/hillary-clinton-wont-let-republicans-forget-never-trump


Sorry but i think this is terrible. Weird music in the background, followed by a bunch of disliked POLITICIANS saying whiny things about a guy who kicked their asses.

I'm very liberal so I strongly dislike Trump, but this ad sucks.

The ad is precisely not targeted at liberals or at Trump's base. Its aim is keep moderate Republicans away from Trump.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 02:39:23
May 05 2016 02:38 GMT
#74836
I do agree that the first ad is pretty weak, at least if I were the person it were trying to appeal to. Her second one is the one that I think would be more promising.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23469 Posts
May 05 2016 02:41 GMT
#74837
On May 05 2016 11:36 kwizach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 11:34 darthfoley wrote:
On May 05 2016 10:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Absolutely BRUTAL attack ad by Hillary on Trump:

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/hillary-clinton-wont-let-republicans-forget-never-trump


Sorry but i think this is terrible. Weird music in the background, followed by a bunch of disliked POLITICIANS saying whiny things about a guy who kicked their asses.

I'm very liberal so I strongly dislike Trump, but this ad sucks.

The ad is precisely not targeted at liberals or at Trump's base. Its aim is keep moderate Republicans away from Trump.


Pretty sure Trump would be able to make Hillary look scarier to them than she would make him look. By the convention Republicans will have sucked it up and realized even if Trump gets blown out, he's still going to be the single most powerful/popular Republican in the country so they might as well jump on the Trump train.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 05 2016 02:41 GMT
#74838
Neither George HW nor George W Bush, the only two living former Republican presidents of the United States, will endorse Donald Trump.

In statements released to the Guardian on Wednesday evening, spokesmen for both former presidents said they would be sitting out the 2016 election. Freddy Ford, a spokesman for George W Bush, told the Guardian: “President George W Bush does not plan to participate in or comment on the presidential campaign.”

The statement by the 43rd president was echoed in one released by his father. Jim McGrath, a spokesman for George HW Bush, told the Guardian: “At age 91, President Bush is retired from politics. He naturally did a few things to help Jeb, but those were the ‘exceptions that proved the rule’.”

The non-endorsements come as Trump has become the presumptive nominee and many party figures have tried to come to terms with the fact that the demagogic reality television star will be their party’s standard-bearer in November.

While some such as senators Dean Heller of Nevada and Ben Sasse of Nebraska have made clear they will not vote for Trump in November, others such as senators Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire and Rob Portman of Ohio have said they will vote for the party’s nominee but not endorse him.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 05 2016 02:43 GMT
#74839
a lot of parallel narratives and information looping subcultures. should look at extremism and fragmentation as a norm partly facilitated by tech

We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 05 2016 02:45 GMT
#74840
Ben Carson has a plan for Ted Cruz now that the Texas senator has dropped out of the GOP presidential race: attorney general, then Supreme Court justice under a Trump administration.

When Fox News Radio’s John Gibson asked Carson on Wednesday whether it would be “smart” for presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump to offer Cruz a position on the Supreme Court, he said yes.

“I think he would be terrific on the Supreme Court, or I think he would be a terrific attorney general. Or he could be both,” Carson said. “He could be attorney general first, you know, go ahead and prosecute Hillary, and then go on the Supreme Court.”

Gibson went on to ask the former presidential candidate whom Trump should choose as his running mate.
“I wouldn’t advise him to pick me,” Carson said. “I would advise him to pick someone who really is willing and able to take a significant part of the load.”

The retired neurosurgeon endorsed Trump in March after he dropped his own presidential bid. Trump said on Wednesday that Carson would serve on his selection committee for his future running mate.


Source
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