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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 05 2016 05:05 GMT
#74861
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
May 05 2016 05:07 GMT
#74862
On May 05 2016 13:28 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Everyone is also forgetting the potential curve ball Trump could pitch before November. Say he gets a copy of a speech Clinton gave to a financial group.

Could easily happen I imagine.

...the speech would, with 95% likelihood, be a generic inspirational pep speech she gave to employees.

Moreover, if it goes down that route, Trump has decades of making similar speeches so yeah.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
May 05 2016 05:13 GMT
#74863
I'm hoping one of the candidates ends up dominating so I don't have to vote for Clinton. I think it's too soon to say which one that would be, though.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24314 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 05:26:27
May 05 2016 05:18 GMT
#74864
On May 05 2016 14:07 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 13:28 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Everyone is also forgetting the potential curve ball Trump could pitch before November. Say he gets a copy of a speech Clinton gave to a financial group.

Could easily happen I imagine.

...the speech would, with 95% likelihood, be a generic inspirational pep speech she gave to employees.

Moreover, if it goes down that route, Trump has decades of making similar speeches so yeah.


It wouldn't come from Trump from the public's perspective, he would just mention it afterwords while bragging he didn't need a superPAC/Wall street money to win his primary. He has the added bonus of no one thinking they were paying ~$250k/hr to speak, to the next president, which all of the people (beyond Wall st.) clearly thought they were doing.

I don't know how people seriously think "Oh they just wanted to listen to a pep talk and pay to take pictures with Hillary on Wall st. How could anyone think they wanted to gain influence over the types of regulations she pushes on them!?"

Doesn't help Hillary said "They aren't giving me much money now" after they gave her superPAC $15 million. She seems to think about money in a very different way than most Americans.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 05:37:46
May 05 2016 05:37 GMT
#74865
can't democrats just run Trump's footage from WWE? that would probably work
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 07:33:58
May 05 2016 07:33 GMT
#74866
Go Trump! Last stand against political correctness.
sorry for dem one liners
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 05 2016 07:46 GMT
#74867
On May 05 2016 14:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 14:07 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On May 05 2016 13:28 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Everyone is also forgetting the potential curve ball Trump could pitch before November. Say he gets a copy of a speech Clinton gave to a financial group.

Could easily happen I imagine.

...the speech would, with 95% likelihood, be a generic inspirational pep speech she gave to employees.

Moreover, if it goes down that route, Trump has decades of making similar speeches so yeah.


It wouldn't come from Trump from the public's perspective, he would just mention it afterwords while bragging he didn't need a superPAC/Wall street money to win his primary. He has the added bonus of no one thinking they were paying ~$250k/hr to speak, to the next president, which all of the people (beyond Wall st.) clearly thought they were doing.

I don't know how people seriously think "Oh they just wanted to listen to a pep talk and pay to take pictures with Hillary on Wall st. How could anyone think they wanted to gain influence over the types of regulations she pushes on them!?"

Doesn't help Hillary said "They aren't giving me much money now" after they gave her superPAC $15 million. She seems to think about money in a very different way than most Americans.


The last person to try the "I don't use SuperPAC" arguments against Clinton lost by 3million or so votes--why would Trump do any different?
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 05 2016 08:09 GMT
#74868
we hqve people actively rooting for a politics fiercely detached from actions and results, just the optics and rages remain. and these people are thinking themselves the good guys. lol just lol
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8179 Posts
May 05 2016 09:21 GMT
#74869
On May 05 2016 12:10 oneofthem wrote:
stalin was to the left of hillary on some issues too, this means he had some good in him since left=good

Stalin (and Lenin before him) have been considered very solidly right wing deviations of marxism. Lenin called leftism the "infantile illness of communism".

It all depends what you hear by right and left. It's obvious that the american left and far left have absolutely nothing in common or to do with what one hears when he calls Stalin a "leftist".
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8179 Posts
May 05 2016 09:26 GMT
#74870
On May 05 2016 13:45 LegalLord wrote:
I'd definitely like to see the Bernie candidacy do something to move Hillary to the left. On social issues, I'd say she's progressive enough. On economic issues, I'm not her biggest fan but I'll also admit that my knowledge of the merits and demerits of trade agreements isn't strong enough to properly assess her candidacy (seems like economists aren't able to reach a consensus either). On FP, she has a generally terrible history and I'd like to see her take a less hawkish approach to it all.

GH is correct about that Bernie forced her to move to the left on some things, to the point that she's tied herself to Obama on a lot of issues when she would have otherwise moved to the right. That's probably ultimately a good thing.

I don't think there is much difference between Clinton and Obama to be honest. She is a bit more hawkish (which I don't like), and probably a bit more interested in Europe (which I think is a good thing for both parties). For the rest, she will have the same kind of administration pushing for the same kind of agenda.

Completely agree with you. Sanders would have (and has) the potential of moving american politics, but unfortunately, it looks like him and his troops have adopted a strategy of systematic attacks on HC instead of talking content.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46321 Posts
May 05 2016 10:10 GMT
#74871
On May 05 2016 13:33 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 13:28 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Everyone is also forgetting the potential curve ball Trump could pitch before November. Say he gets a copy of a speech Clinton gave to a financial group.

Could easily happen I imagine.


I was talking to my dad about this, and he made the same point. Trump went to school with some of these guys. He will pay whatever it takes to get his hands on a couple Goldman Sachs transcripts. That could actually be really big.


What could these transcripts say- what could Hillary have realistically said during her speeches to financial groups- that would wreck her? Like Romney's "47%" moment or something?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 05 2016 12:42 GMT
#74872
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
May 05 2016 12:44 GMT
#74873
Honestly it probably wasn't great for her but also not worth releasing because Republicans can't push the issue the way Bernie can, so she's better off just hiding it. I expect it's the standard fare of finance praise given by people who get paid to give a speech, which would be best not read in the context that most voters would read it.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
May 05 2016 13:13 GMT
#74874
We should create a StealthBlue appreciation thread for everything he forwarded to us in this thread and elsewhere imo.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 05 2016 13:15 GMT
#74875
On May 05 2016 19:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 13:33 darthfoley wrote:
On May 05 2016 13:28 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Everyone is also forgetting the potential curve ball Trump could pitch before November. Say he gets a copy of a speech Clinton gave to a financial group.

Could easily happen I imagine.


I was talking to my dad about this, and he made the same point. Trump went to school with some of these guys. He will pay whatever it takes to get his hands on a couple Goldman Sachs transcripts. That could actually be really big.


What could these transcripts say- what could Hillary have realistically said during her speeches to financial groups- that would wreck her? Like Romney's "47%" moment or something?

Nothing. It will likely be a speech about hiring more women or the importance of investment within the US. This is Al Capone's Vault for politics.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 05 2016 13:26 GMT
#74876
Those speeches aren't going to have anything interesting. I also find the insistence that they are somehow materially different from the speeches she gave at colleges, tech companies and so forth kind of amusing.

I'm sure if I tried I could find someone who attended one of her much reviled GS speeches. I'm sure if i tried a bit harder I could even find someone who wasn't paying attention at one of those speeches.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 13:31:24
May 05 2016 13:29 GMT
#74877
On May 05 2016 22:26 ticklishmusic wrote:
Those speeches aren't going to have anything interesting. I also find the insistence that they are somehow materially different from the speeches she gave at colleges, tech companies and so forth kind of amusing.

I'm sure if I tried I could find someone who attended one of her much reviled GS speeches. I'm sure if i tried a bit harder I could even find someone who wasn't paying attention at one of those speeches.


They have and from the interviews eyewitnesses say she spoke of how they helped the country through the 08 crisis etc.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/clinton-speeches-218969

“It was pretty glowing about us,” one person who watched the event said. “It’s so far from what she sounds like as a candidate now. It was like a rah-rah speech. She sounded more like a Goldman Sachs managing director.”

At another speech to Goldman and its big asset management clients in New York in 2013, Clinton spoke about how it wasn’t just the banks that caused the financial crisis and that it was worth looking at the landmark 2010 Dodd-Frank financial reform law to see what was working and what wasn’t.

“It was mostly basic stuff, small talk, chit-chat,” one person who attended that speech said. “But in this environment, it could be made to look really bad.”
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 13:51:52
May 05 2016 13:47 GMT
#74878
trusting the public to have a rational reaction to this stuff is delusional

you do need to have some kind of communication or at least awareness of how the industry is going to tailor the regulation. there is a competitiveness interest in there too
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 13:54:07
May 05 2016 13:51 GMT
#74879
Until there is a metric indicating Clinton would benefit from releasing the transcripts, she's not going to. Why do people even talk about this? It is such an impossibility it makes no sense.

On May 05 2016 22:13 WhiteDog wrote:
We should create a StealthBlue appreciation thread for everything he forwarded to us in this thread and elsewhere imo.


Agreed. He is a hero.
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
May 05 2016 14:09 GMT
#74880
Not sure copy and pasting politico articles and leaving them largely uncommented deserves that much appreciation....
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