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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 22 2016 13:01 GMT
#68461
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 13:10:58
March 22 2016 13:10 GMT
#68462
"I would vote for any republican as long as hillary doesn't win."

We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 22 2016 13:16 GMT
#68463
This only further confirms that cosplay and anime was a mistake.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 22 2016 13:24 GMT
#68464
woah calm down Plansix.
WriterXiao8~~
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 22 2016 13:28 GMT
#68465
My favorite part about using that phrase is it always get a response, instantly. Say “Anime was a mistake” and people be like “Whoa there, you are being pretty judgmental of an entire art form.”

To be clear, I am kidding around. I like me some anime trash just like everyone else.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 22 2016 13:30 GMT
#68466
To be clear I was also kidding around.
WriterXiao8~~
thePunGun
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
598 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 13:42:03
March 22 2016 13:34 GMT
#68467
I just read a comment about Trump on another page:
"I don't think Donald Trump is the president America needs, but he's the president it deserves."
I was mad at first when I read it...But then it dawned on me and I was kinda startled, when I heard myself say:
"What if he/she is right?"
Any thoughts?

Edit: This is not a troll, just a sad epiphany...really

"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 13:36:17
March 22 2016 13:35 GMT
#68468
Rule number: If you are quoting the Dark Knight, you didn’t look hard enough for a better quote.

And Trump is the candidate that the Republicans deserve. He is the final form of the group they have been pandering to for years.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7139 Posts
March 22 2016 13:35 GMT
#68469
On March 22 2016 22:34 thePunGun wrote:
I just read a comment about Trump on another page:
"I don't think Donald Trump is the president America needs, but he's the president it deserves."
I was mad at first when I read it...But then it dawned on me and I was kinda startled, when I heard myself say:
"What if he/she is right?"
Any thoughts?


Honestly, that sounds retarded
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
thePunGun
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
598 Posts
March 22 2016 13:39 GMT
#68470
On March 22 2016 22:35 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 22:34 thePunGun wrote:
I just read a comment about Trump on another page:
"I don't think Donald Trump is the president America needs, but he's the president it deserves."
I was mad at first when I read it...But then it dawned on me and I was kinda startled, when I heard myself say:
"What if he/she is right?"
Any thoughts?


Honestly, that sounds retarded

which part?
"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself."
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
March 22 2016 13:41 GMT
#68471
It is hardly news that the electorate gets the politicians it deserves. The first to circle around this thought was probably Plato and Joseph de Maistre formulated it precisely: "Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite".
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 13:44:03
March 22 2016 13:42 GMT
#68472
On March 22 2016 15:10 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 15:04 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On March 22 2016 13:36 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 22 2016 13:20 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On March 22 2016 12:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 22 2016 12:32 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On March 22 2016 12:23 Mohdoo wrote:
Its really weird that Kasich is basically just openly saying he's waiting for a convention so that he is granted the nomination without anywhere close to half the votes, lol.


I mean unless Trump pulls away big in the remaining states whoever gets nominated is only going to have gotten like 40% of the votes, which qualifies as not terribly close in my book. His polling is still not majority level. Even if he clinches it he'll have had the lowest popular vote share of a nominated candidate in primaries for quite some time I think (though some of this is how long it dragged on). In that sense I can't really fault Kasich/Cruz.

On March 22 2016 11:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate, hate, hate when Bernie dismisses the Deep South. Does he have any idea how hard it is to be a progressive here? I'm from Louisiana, a state which had Bobby fucking Jindal as governor. He gutted our education system, our budget and did more damage to our state than fucking Hurricane Katrina. We fight every day against religious freedom acts, creationism and all sorts of dumb shit every day. We work our asses to keep from losing ground, let alone getting ahead. Our small victories are hard won. Revolution looks easy as shit from lily white, ultra blue Vermont I bet.


It honestly made my blood boil when I saw people saying that Hillary's victories in the South were somehow less meaningful because they were red states and thus somehow not real Democrats or should be less influential. Or that she'll win on the back of the South and this somehow makes it less legitimate.


Seriously? 2008 wasn't that long ago...

The Clinton spin machine has been consistent about this. Nebraska, Idaho and Utah didn't matter because they were deep-red states. South Carolina, Louisiana and Georgia didn't matter because they had large percentages of black voters.


Source



I'm not sure why you think it wouldn't make my blood boil if/when Clinton did it. It's as dumb as dismissing blue states in the Republican contests.


What specifically did he say that made your blood boil?


I was talking about people. Edit: Specifically the 538 Facebook feed whenever they were doing a live report. I wasn't ever talking about Sanders. I'm not sure why you are so hyperprotective of the man. I even voted for him.

On March 22 2016 14:42 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 22 2016 14:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump's English is only slightly better than that of the illegal immigrants he wants to keep out. I'm sure I screwed up somewhere grammatically, which makes my post unintentionally ironic.

His current public speech English, which is vastly different than his actual English level.

Understanding your audience by using proper English level is key in communications.


Does bizarrely inferring that Hispanics and African Americans like you overall because of how they broke down in small sample Republican exit polls also compose a key part of communications? That is such an absurdly staggering logical failure that I can barely wrap my head around how someone could misunderstand it while being a candidate running for political office.

Interviews like that make me doubt that Trump's political persona is a publicity manufacturing crow pleasing cartoon character but I still think it probably is.

In what way did I imply anything regarding minority exit polls, or minority support in my comment?

I was just talking about his wide appeal overall, that also includes less educated white majorities. Especially shown in his success in Southern states.


If you're still reading wei2cool, I was specifically referring to Trump's own logic, not yours, while being questioned by the editorial board (and in general) when being questioned about how minorities felt about him, in which he says what I said above. It represents a crippling logical deficiency.

The same crippling logical deficiency present in a lot of his discussion of polls, actually.
thePunGun
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
598 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 13:45:23
March 22 2016 13:44 GMT
#68473
On March 22 2016 22:41 Ghostcom wrote:
It is hardly news that the electorate gets the politicians it deserves. The first to circle around this thought was probably Plato and Joseph de Maistre formulated it precisely: "Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite".


It seemed just weird to me...that maybe we do deserve him..maybe we need him, to finally wake up?
edit: and I'm not here to report the news, just sharing some thoughts
"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself."
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7139 Posts
March 22 2016 13:46 GMT
#68474
On March 22 2016 22:39 thePunGun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 22:35 Luolis wrote:
On March 22 2016 22:34 thePunGun wrote:
I just read a comment about Trump on another page:
"I don't think Donald Trump is the president America needs, but he's the president it deserves."
I was mad at first when I read it...But then it dawned on me and I was kinda startled, when I heard myself say:
"What if he/she is right?"
Any thoughts?


Honestly, that sounds retarded

which part?

Hmm, i actually misunderstood your post. Nevermind
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 22 2016 13:48 GMT
#68475
As a US citizen I'm not unduly afraid of a terror attack carried out by Muslims... I'm more worried about some unstable teenager or maladjusted white guy shooting up the area I'm in. Or a construction crane collapsing on my head.
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
March 22 2016 13:55 GMT
#68476
On March 22 2016 22:44 thePunGun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 22:41 Ghostcom wrote:
It is hardly news that the electorate gets the politicians it deserves. The first to circle around this thought was probably Plato and Joseph de Maistre formulated it precisely: "Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite".


It seemed just weird to me...that maybe we do deserve him..maybe we need him, to finally wake up?
edit: and I'm not here to report the news, just sharing some thoughts


Oh I didn't mean to bust your ass, rather confirm your thoughts (my bad for expressing it badly, the attacks in Belgium has me a little on tilt tbh). It is a sobering thought - especially when you realize what it says about the other people in your country.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 22 2016 14:01 GMT
#68477
On March 22 2016 22:48 ticklishmusic wrote:
As a US citizen I'm not unduly afraid of a terror attack carried out by Muslims... I'm more worried about some unstable teenager or maladjusted white guy shooting up the area I'm in. Or a construction crane collapsing on my head.

More parents are shot by their own children in the US than by terrorist. The threat of maladjusted white people is miles above all Muslims.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 22 2016 14:11 GMT
#68478
The White House has turned to the private sector in an attempt to mend America’s creaking water infrastructure system, securing $4bn in commitments from businesses and instituting a new plan to help deal with crises such as the Flint lead poisoning disaster and the California drought.

The first White House water summit, to be held on Tuesday, will see more than 150 businesses and other organizations, including GE, commit funding to upgrade “critical infrastructure”, including dams, canals and water pipes.

Barack Obama’s administration would not commit, however, to a goal of replacing all of the estimated three to six million miles of lead piping that brings water to Americans every day. If they are not carefully treated, the pipes can leach lead, a known neurotoxin, into drinking water. This occurred in Flint, Michigan, where an estimated 8,000 children could grow up with developmental difficulties due to the water not being treated.

“There is a clear need for infrastructure investment to tackle the challenges we face, including plugging leaking pipes,” said Ali Zaidi, associate director for natural resources at the office of management and budget. “To achieve that objective we’re going to galvanize public and private sectors. The private sector is stepping up to the plate and we know there is an important role for the federal government to play as well.

“Innovation has lagged in recent decades. We waste seven billion gallons of clean and treated water every day. We need to be more efficient and ensure pipes aren’t leaking.”

A further $1bn will be spent on research and development into new water technology. There’s also a new long-term drought resilience initiative, issued by presidential memorandum, which will aim to improve planning and coordination of drought response.


Source
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thePunGun
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
598 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 14:19:35
March 22 2016 14:13 GMT
#68479
On March 22 2016 22:55 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 22:44 thePunGun wrote:
On March 22 2016 22:41 Ghostcom wrote:
It is hardly news that the electorate gets the politicians it deserves. The first to circle around this thought was probably Plato and Joseph de Maistre formulated it precisely: "Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite".


It seemed just weird to me...that maybe we do deserve him..maybe we need him, to finally wake up?
edit: and I'm not here to report the news, just sharing some thoughts


Oh I didn't mean to bust your ass, rather confirm your thoughts (my bad for expressing it badly, the attacks in Belgium has me a little on tilt tbh). It is a sobering thought - especially when you realize what it says about the other people in your country.

yeah the tilt is real...the attacks in Belgium is what kept me awake, browsing the net and dodging the pillows my gf kept throwing at me
"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 14:18:53
March 22 2016 14:17 GMT
#68480


Bernie is getting taken for a ride by four-time loser Tad Devine (that's Tad's media consulting firm there). 810K in a month.

It was ~400K in each of the previous months as well.
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