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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On March 12 2016 00:48 xDaunt wrote: I like how Obama has thrown the UK and France under the bus for what happened in Libya. I kinda agree with his criticism, not that I think that it was a good idea to air it publicly. As Trump has so eloquently said, we do too much and people pay us too little. Europe is a big boy. It can handle its own problems. North Africa should be 100% between rich oil shitheads and Europeans. We've spoiled Europe by solving the world's problems for so long. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On March 12 2016 00:54 oneofthem wrote: north africa was always a european problem. they should handle it I agree, and this whole Libya mess demonstrates what lazy shits Europeans actually are when it comes to global defense issues. Guess who has been saying this for a while? The republican candidate with the yuuuge hair. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
then some shit happened and oops | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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misirlou
Portugal3319 Posts
On March 12 2016 00:59 Mohdoo wrote: As Trump has so eloquently said, we do too much and people pay us too little. Europe is a big boy. It can handle its own problems. North Africa should be 100% between rich oil shitheads and Europeans. We've spoiled Europe by solving the world's problems for so long. It's not like you didn't create most of them anyway. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6326 Posts
On March 12 2016 01:17 misirlou wrote: It's not like you didn't create most of them anyway. It's not like the US doesn't benefit from it either politically. It's not done out of the goodness of their hearts or something. | ||
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oneofthem
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Simberto
Germany12068 Posts
On March 12 2016 00:59 Mohdoo wrote: As Trump has so eloquently said, we do too much and people pay us too little. Europe is a big boy. It can handle its own problems. North Africa should be 100% between rich oil shitheads and Europeans. We've spoiled Europe by solving the world's problems for so long. And by "solving the worlds problems" you mean "fuck shit up even more", right? Like the whole iraq mess that destabilized the whole region, where you decided "Well some people blew up a building of ours, and we can't find them to bomb them, but we gotta bomb something because we need revenge, so lets bomb some other guys we can find but who are not in any way connected to the initial assault" | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On March 12 2016 01:17 misirlou wrote: It's not like you didn't create most of them anyway. Sorry about Hitler. That was our bad. Right? And don't forget who won WWII for Europe. We were very kind regarding WWII. We could have taken very much from Europe, but we are giving and kind. | ||
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Simberto
Germany12068 Posts
Oh! Oh! I know this one! It's the Russians, right? | ||
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misirlou
Portugal3319 Posts
And don't forget who won WWII for Europe Yeah, it wasn't in the US best interest to join the war, again, they helped from the kindness of their hearts. What were your civilian losses on WWI? WWII? What did the wars do to your precious continent? Hitler was a product of WWI. A war your country did it's fair share of fucking it up even worse. I'm not even going address the rest of the bait, cause it's either bait or you're really stupid. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12612 Posts
On March 12 2016 01:21 Mohdoo wrote: Sorry about Hitler. That was our bad. Right? And don't forget who won WWII for Europe. We were very kind regarding WWII. We could have taken very much from Europe, but we are giving and kind. There's no question that you did some good in the world. For example, you fought Hitler. That was good. There, we have acknowledged it. Now that this is settled, can you acknowledge that this was a long long time ago and that your record has been less than stellar since then on plenty of other matters? If no, then you're seriously deluded. If yes, then you should be able to realize that "we were a definite force for good against Hitler" isn't really an argument that pertains to the matter that is being presented to you. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On March 12 2016 01:26 Nebuchad wrote: There's no question that you did some good in the world. For example, you fought Hitler. That was good. There, we have acknowledged it. Now that this is settled, can you acknowledge that this was a long long time ago and that your record has been less than stellar since then on plenty of other matters? If no, then you're seriously deluded. If yes, then you should be able to realize that "we were a definite force for good against Hitler" isn't really an argument that pertains to the matter that is being presented to you. I would argue that having a far and away clearly militarily superior country in the world serves a purpose similar to nukes wherein conflict is prevented by the prospect of how much damage would be done. Consider Russia with Ukraine and it's other bordering countries. If the US suddenly stopped caring and took out everything we've got around there, Europe would be a colony in a week. In that regard, I think the US has caused problems in its quest for utter and complete dominance. I would say that th damage caused is significantly less than the damage created by a militarily competitive planet. By being the clear winner, conflict is prevented. Not gonna pretend we didn't fuck shit up along the way, but I truly believe nukes and the United states military are ultimately peace keepers because of how necessary diplomacy becomes. | ||
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United States708 Posts
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