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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 01 2016 21:12 GMT
#61801
On March 02 2016 06:10 Reaps wrote:
Deathstar is trolling right.... right!?

Refuse to believe anyone can be that simple minded.

The rise in activity among hate groups has been well documented for the length of this primary. Normally they are not very politically active in main stream politics. This is the opposite of normal.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42606 Posts
March 01 2016 21:13 GMT
#61802
On March 02 2016 06:10 ErectedZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 06:09 KwarK wrote:
On March 02 2016 06:08 ErectedZenith wrote:
On March 02 2016 06:00 Deathstar wrote:
This is the battle of the bulge for the white supremacists and their sympathizers. It's causing a ruckus but they will be put in their place in due time.


Lots of legal Mexicans and black folks are for Trump.

Troll harder.

Nobody said white people have a monopoly on stupidity.


Nobody is arguing that they do.

The point is that Trump's xenophobic pandering appeals to idiots across the whole spectrum, not just to white idiots. As long as you're an idiot he'll take your vote. Black and Hispanic idiots exist and therefore so do black and Hispanic Trump voters. It doesn't mean his message isn't racist.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-01 21:14:41
March 01 2016 21:13 GMT
#61803
what was it in Nevada? "Trump got the most black people out of the republicans in Nevada!!! [which amounts to 1-2% of the black population in Nevada but we'll ommit that]"
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 01 2016 21:16 GMT
#61804
On March 02 2016 06:11 ErectedZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 06:10 ErectedZenith wrote:
On March 02 2016 06:09 KwarK wrote:
On March 02 2016 06:08 ErectedZenith wrote:
On March 02 2016 06:00 Deathstar wrote:
This is the battle of the bulge for the white supremacists and their sympathizers. It's causing a ruckus but they will be put in their place in due time.


Lots of legal Mexicans and black folks are for Trump.

Troll harder.

Nobody said white people have a monopoly on stupidity.


Nobody is arguing that they do.


Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 06:09 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 02 2016 06:08 ErectedZenith wrote:
On March 02 2016 06:00 Deathstar wrote:
This is the battle of the bulge for the white supremacists and their sympathizers. It's causing a ruckus but they will be put in their place in due time.


Lots of legal Mexicans and black folks are for Trump.

Troll harder.

no they aren't. They really aren't.


Keep dreaming.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/trump-and-the-black-vote/

Trump tweeted about the survey when it was released in September. But that poll was an outlier at the time, as the Washington Post wrote, and his standing among blacks is not that high in recent polls. In fact, polls show his support ranges from 4 percent to 12 percent.


It remains to be seen what the level of black support for the Republican nominee will be in 2016. But Trump is wrong to say that 4 percent to 5 percent is the norm.


Not really by any metric.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ErectedZenith
Profile Joined January 2016
325 Posts
March 01 2016 21:16 GMT
#61805
On March 02 2016 06:13 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 06:10 ErectedZenith wrote:
On March 02 2016 06:09 KwarK wrote:
On March 02 2016 06:08 ErectedZenith wrote:
On March 02 2016 06:00 Deathstar wrote:
This is the battle of the bulge for the white supremacists and their sympathizers. It's causing a ruckus but they will be put in their place in due time.


Lots of legal Mexicans and black folks are for Trump.

Troll harder.

Nobody said white people have a monopoly on stupidity.


Nobody is arguing that they do.

The point is that Trump's xenophobic pandering appeals to idiots across the whole spectrum, not just to white idiots. As long as you're an idiot he'll take your vote. Black and Hispanic idiots exist and therefore so do black and Hispanic Trump voters. It doesn't mean his message isn't racist.


Same can be said for Hillary or Sanders supporters though. There a lot of stupid people supporting those two.

SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-01 21:30:38
March 01 2016 21:21 GMT
#61806
Trump will win the presidency. Depsite his antics and the false media representation of him, he is the most fit to lead than any of the nominees. He is a strong leader that wont be bullied unlike the other candidates.

Many people are naive in this thread and think that trump is just a republican phenomenon. Alot of democrats will vote for trump if he is the nominee.

My girlfriend and I are voting for him. We are an inter racial couple who are young and college educated with generally liberal views on many social issues. I dont understand the hate on trump over other republican nominees. Hes the only republican candiate with moderate views on planned parenthood, israel/palestine conflict and many other issues. Honestly, i think many of the social issues are irrelevant as trump doesn't really care about them. He only says certain things to be accepted within the republican party.

His true emphasis is on economy, trade, borders, health care, and foreign policy. We finally get a candidate that is not backed by the special interest groups, yet people want to vote for hillary? Please look at her donors..
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-01 21:22:30
March 01 2016 21:22 GMT
#61807
What some call xenophobia, others call enforcing the rule of law.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10696 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-01 21:25:42
March 01 2016 21:23 GMT
#61808
On March 02 2016 06:16 ErectedZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 06:13 KwarK wrote:
On March 02 2016 06:10 ErectedZenith wrote:
On March 02 2016 06:09 KwarK wrote:
On March 02 2016 06:08 ErectedZenith wrote:
On March 02 2016 06:00 Deathstar wrote:
This is the battle of the bulge for the white supremacists and their sympathizers. It's causing a ruckus but they will be put in their place in due time.


Lots of legal Mexicans and black folks are for Trump.

Troll harder.

Nobody said white people have a monopoly on stupidity.


Nobody is arguing that they do.

The point is that Trump's xenophobic pandering appeals to idiots across the whole spectrum, not just to white idiots. As long as you're an idiot he'll take your vote. Black and Hispanic idiots exist and therefore so do black and Hispanic Trump voters. It doesn't mean his message isn't racist.


Same can be said for Hillary or Sanders supporters though. There a lot of stupid people supporting those two.




Not voting for Hillary over ANY candidate with still somewhat of a chance in the republican field is pretty close to the definition of stupid.
Sanders, well, he's very left and there are understandable reasons that people wouldn't vote for him on that basis... But on the other side you get to choose between an Evangelical Asshole, a guy that thinks of himself as the second coming of awesome and a robot that can't even manage to be in congress half the time he should.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-01 21:24:41
March 01 2016 21:24 GMT
#61809
On March 02 2016 06:22 Soap wrote:
What some call xenophobia, others call enforcing the rule of law.

those two things aren't necessarily mutually exclusive, especially not if have of your lawmakers are bigots
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 01 2016 21:25 GMT
#61810
On March 02 2016 06:22 Soap wrote:
What some call xenophobia, others call enforcing the rule of law.

Yeah, but those people are xenophobic.
.
.
.


I love over generalized statements without context. When people talk about xenophobia, they are referring to “Mexico is sending over rapists”, “make a data base of Muslims” and “Kill their families, that is how you beat the terrorist.”
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23209 Posts
March 01 2016 21:28 GMT
#61811
Calling it now that if it ends up being Trump v Clinton this thread ends up getting shut down or handing out bans like candy.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
March 01 2016 21:30 GMT
#61812
I hope it's Trump vs Clinton so we can take the House, Senate, and Presidency from these neanderthals.
rip passion
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-01 21:36:22
March 01 2016 21:35 GMT
#61813
Marco Rubio's top campaign adviser huddled with roughly 40 bundlers and K Streeters Tuesday morning to prepare them for a difficult primary election night—as well as to brief them on the campaign's plan for what to do next.

Terry Sullivan told supporters at campaign headquarters that the Florida Republican could secure just 100 delegates from Super Tuesday states in one of the scenarios he laid out.

Sullivan's prediction was part of his larger detailed powerpoint presentation going through different delegate counts for March, April and May. He told attendees that it would be mathematically impossible for Donald Trump to get to 1,237 delegate votes by the end of April, according to multiple attendees.

Sullivan said that Henry Barbour, a veteran Mississippi political operative, is leading Rubio's convention delegate strategy.

Several sources familiar with the meeting described it as an exercise in lowering expectations for how well Rubio needs to do in order to stay in the race for the White House.

"The pressure is going to be so great in April and May, and they feel like they are committed to working in the trenches," said one Rubio bundler who attended the meeting.

A Rubio spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
March 01 2016 21:38 GMT
#61814
On March 02 2016 06:30 Deathstar wrote:
I hope it's Trump vs Clinton so we can take the House, Senate, and Presidency from these neanderthals.

And the Supreme Court for that matter.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 01 2016 21:39 GMT
#61815
On March 02 2016 06:38 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 06:30 Deathstar wrote:
I hope it's Trump vs Clinton so we can take the House, Senate, and Presidency from these neanderthals.

And the Supreme Court for that matter.

It would be a fitting end to this 4 year nightmare of federal government not functioning in any way and everyone just acting like its fine.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
March 01 2016 21:41 GMT
#61816
On March 02 2016 06:38 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 06:30 Deathstar wrote:
I hope it's Trump vs Clinton so we can take the House, Senate, and Presidency from these neanderthals.

And the Supreme Court for that matter.


I hope Obama gets him nomination for that. Not only because it is how it is supposed to be but also to shove it right it Mitch Miconnell's face to make him look even more like the clown he is.
Never Knows Best.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9621 Posts
March 01 2016 21:41 GMT
#61817
On March 02 2016 06:21 SolaR- wrote:
Trump will win the presidency. Depsite his antics and the false media representation of him, he is the most fit to lead than any of the nominees. He is a strong leader that wont be bullied unlike the other candidates.

Many people are naive in this thread and think that trump is just a republican phenomenon. Alot of democrats will vote for trump if he is the nominee.

My girlfriend and I are voting for him. We are an inter racial couple who are young and college educated with generally liberal views on many social issues. I dont understand the hate on trump over other republican nominees. Hes the only republican candiate with moderate views on planned parenthood, israel/palestine conflict and many other issues. Honestly, i think many of the social issues are irrelevant as trump doesn't really care about them. He only says certain things to be accepted within the republican party.

His true emphasis is on economy, trade, borders, health care, and foreign policy. We finally get a candidate that is not backed by the special interest groups, yet people want to vote for hillary? Please look at her donors..


My God if what you're saying is true then America is in a much worse position than I thought.
Trump is a joke, a joke that America doesn't seem to get.
RIP Meatloaf <3
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
March 01 2016 21:43 GMT
#61818
On March 02 2016 06:21 SolaR- wrote:
Trump will win the presidency. Depsite his antics and the false media representation of him, he is the most fit to lead than any of the nominees. He is a strong leader that wont be bullied unlike the other candidates.

Many people are naive in this thread and think that trump is just a republican phenomenon. Alot of democrats will vote for trump if he is the nominee.

My girlfriend and I are voting for him. We are an inter racial couple who are young and college educated with generally liberal views on many social issues. I dont understand the hate on trump over other republican nominees. Hes the only republican candiate with moderate views on planned parenthood, israel/palestine conflict and many other issues. Honestly, i think many of the social issues are irrelevant as trump doesn't really care about them. He only says certain things to be accepted within the republican party.

His true emphasis is on economy, trade, borders, health care, and foreign policy. We finally get a candidate that is not backed by the special interest groups, yet people want to vote for hillary? Please look at her donors..


Why is inter-racialness relevant? What races?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 01 2016 21:46 GMT
#61819
On March 02 2016 06:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 06:21 SolaR- wrote:
Trump will win the presidency. Depsite his antics and the false media representation of him, he is the most fit to lead than any of the nominees. He is a strong leader that wont be bullied unlike the other candidates.

Many people are naive in this thread and think that trump is just a republican phenomenon. Alot of democrats will vote for trump if he is the nominee.

My girlfriend and I are voting for him. We are an inter racial couple who are young and college educated with generally liberal views on many social issues. I dont understand the hate on trump over other republican nominees. Hes the only republican candiate with moderate views on planned parenthood, israel/palestine conflict and many other issues. Honestly, i think many of the social issues are irrelevant as trump doesn't really care about them. He only says certain things to be accepted within the republican party.

His true emphasis is on economy, trade, borders, health care, and foreign policy. We finally get a candidate that is not backed by the special interest groups, yet people want to vote for hillary? Please look at her donors..


My God if what you're saying is true then America is in a much worse position than I thought.
Trump is a joke, a joke that America doesn't seem to get.

I hope in November we can prove that we did get the joke, but the GOP did not.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
March 01 2016 21:46 GMT
#61820
On March 02 2016 06:43 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 06:21 SolaR- wrote:
Trump will win the presidency. Depsite his antics and the false media representation of him, he is the most fit to lead than any of the nominees. He is a strong leader that wont be bullied unlike the other candidates.

Many people are naive in this thread and think that trump is just a republican phenomenon. Alot of democrats will vote for trump if he is the nominee.

My girlfriend and I are voting for him. We are an inter racial couple who are young and college educated with generally liberal views on many social issues. I dont understand the hate on trump over other republican nominees. Hes the only republican candiate with moderate views on planned parenthood, israel/palestine conflict and many other issues. Honestly, i think many of the social issues are irrelevant as trump doesn't really care about them. He only says certain things to be accepted within the republican party.

His true emphasis is on economy, trade, borders, health care, and foreign policy. We finally get a candidate that is not backed by the special interest groups, yet people want to vote for hillary? Please look at her donors..


Why is inter-racialness relevant? What races?


It's certainly relevant when people claim trump and trump supporters are all racists or white supremacists
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