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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 10 2016 00:42 GMT
#57421
On February 10 2016 08:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
Looking at the polling places it looks like we are woefully incapable of running this process.

Several polling place have ridiculous lines. Traffic backed up something fierce. This is pretty preposterous. Voting shouldn't take longer than an hour maybe two from sitting in your house and deciding you want to do it.

If suppressing the vote is what we do here we should at least be honest with ourselves about it.

The place they just featured on TV anticipated 12k voters, but only got 10K, they had problems anyways because of so many same day registration voters and because an overwhelming % of such voters came late. It would be a fascinating economic question to study. Alas.
Freeeeeeedom
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 10 2016 00:46 GMT
#57422
On February 10 2016 09:32 GreenHorizons wrote:
Let's go Jim Gilmore!

He got 4 votes!
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 10 2016 00:59 GMT
#57423
On February 10 2016 08:50 Cowboy64 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 08:26 Plansix wrote:
We are a nation that celebrates being a democracy, but why have it be a national holiday? Or at least require folks be let out of work early? Because work ethic is important.

Democracy is just another way to organize a society. It does not guarantee a society will be healthy, nor does it confer some moral high-ground by its mere presence. American celebrations of democracy are celebrations of the people, not the system. Also, there are many who feel voting should be made more difficult, not less.

Yeah, but those people are normally low rent bigots that just want to hedge out some minority group or the poor. Voting in the US is a right, like free speech and even gun ownership. Voter fraud is a non-existent issue in the US. So the only reason someone would want to make it harder to vote is to repress everyone but but themselves and their "demographic".
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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
February 10 2016 01:00 GMT
#57424
And yet hasn't there been like 5 articles posted about potential voter fraud related just to the Iowa primary.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 01:07:07
February 10 2016 01:06 GMT
#57425
I was talking about the legit elections. Mid-terms and the General. Not the party run primary system that barely regulated. If people want to reign that shit in, more power to them. Start with Iowa and work their way down.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 01:07:58
February 10 2016 01:07 GMT
#57426
On February 10 2016 10:00 Chewbacca. wrote:
And yet hasn't there been like 5 articles posted about potential voter fraud related just to the Iowa primary.

lol yes, you can use the very general phrase "voter fraud" to describe those articles and the discrepancies surrounding the Iowa caucuses.

Or, you know, you could actually describe the specifics behind the allegations and realize that they have absolutely nothing to do with the barriers of entry relative to voting.

Then again, don't let the specifics get in the way of your tongue making its way into your cheek
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 10 2016 01:10 GMT
#57427
Trump at 33, Kasich at 17 Bush at 12 Cruz at 11

I don't want to say I'm basically Nate Silver but...

Yeah, the count isn't nearly done but looks like a lot of us were right about Rubio.

Looks like Sanders is gonna win at the the high end of my estimate of the gap
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 10 2016 01:15 GMT
#57428
On February 10 2016 10:10 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump at 33, Kasich at 17 Bush at 12 Cruz at 11

I don't want to say I'm basically Nate Silver but...

Yeah, the count isn't nearly done but looks like a lot of us were right about Rubio.

Looks like Sanders is gonna win at the the high end of my estimate of the gap

I need Kasich to go a little down and Bush/Cruz to go up and I'll be nailing it.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 10 2016 01:22 GMT
#57429
I never put #'s on mine, so you're more or less same as me.

NH too ez
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 10 2016 01:25 GMT
#57430
Well only 12% of precincts reporting so far, so there's plenty of room for numbers to change.

For now it looks like Trunp greatly outperformed my expectations.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 01:28:04
February 10 2016 01:27 GMT
#57431
On February 10 2016 10:22 ticklishmusic wrote:
I never put #'s on mine, so you're more or less same as me.

NH too ez

I have Bush in second. Unfortunately, not happening at this point.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24268 Posts
February 10 2016 01:33 GMT
#57432
On February 08 2016 23:19 GreenHorizons wrote:
My NH predictions as of now are:

Trump
Kasich
Jeb/Rubio/Cruz less than 4% separating them
Christie
Carson/Fiorina


What's funny is we'll still hear at least 4 victory speeches and not sure Hillary is going to speak at all.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2016 01:43 GMT
#57433
so Carson pretty much drops out after this, right?
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 10 2016 01:43 GMT
#57434
On February 10 2016 10:33 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 23:19 GreenHorizons wrote:
My NH predictions as of now are:

Trump
Kasich
Jeb/Rubio/Cruz less than 4% separating them
Christie
Carson/Fiorina


What's funny is we'll still hear at least 4 victory speeches and not sure Hillary is going to speak at all.

That... that's a pretty nice prediction right there.
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TL+ Member
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 10 2016 01:46 GMT
#57435
On February 10 2016 10:43 Toadesstern wrote:
so Carson pretty much drops out after this, right?


He won't drop out until after SC.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
February 10 2016 01:50 GMT
#57436
On February 10 2016 10:10 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump at 33, Kasich at 17 Bush at 12 Cruz at 11

I don't want to say I'm basically Nate Silver but...

Yeah, the count isn't nearly done but looks like a lot of us were right about Rubio.

Looks like Sanders is gonna win at the the high end of my estimate of the gap


Where is Kasich coming from lol. What happened?
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 10 2016 01:51 GMT
#57437
On February 10 2016 10:50 Deathstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 10:10 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump at 33, Kasich at 17 Bush at 12 Cruz at 11

I don't want to say I'm basically Nate Silver but...

Yeah, the count isn't nearly done but looks like a lot of us were right about Rubio.

Looks like Sanders is gonna win at the the high end of my estimate of the gap


Where is Kasich coming from lol. What happened?

He apparently spent all his time/effort in NH. Not indicative of other states.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 01:59:45
February 10 2016 01:59 GMT
#57438
https://mobile.twitter.com/micahcohen/status/697237582271418370?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Go Vermin Supreme!
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 10 2016 01:59 GMT
#57439
On February 10 2016 10:51 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 10:50 Deathstar wrote:
On February 10 2016 10:10 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump at 33, Kasich at 17 Bush at 12 Cruz at 11

I don't want to say I'm basically Nate Silver but...

Yeah, the count isn't nearly done but looks like a lot of us were right about Rubio.

Looks like Sanders is gonna win at the the high end of my estimate of the gap


Where is Kasich coming from lol. What happened?

He apparently spent all his time/effort in NH. Not indicative of other states.


At least Kasich had the balls to make a stand somewhere. Rubio was just gonna wait and hope the dice rolled his way, too bad it looks like he couldn't even do that.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 02:10:24
February 10 2016 02:10 GMT
#57440
On February 10 2016 10:59 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 10:51 The_Templar wrote:
On February 10 2016 10:50 Deathstar wrote:
On February 10 2016 10:10 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump at 33, Kasich at 17 Bush at 12 Cruz at 11

I don't want to say I'm basically Nate Silver but...

Yeah, the count isn't nearly done but looks like a lot of us were right about Rubio.

Looks like Sanders is gonna win at the the high end of my estimate of the gap


Where is Kasich coming from lol. What happened?

He apparently spent all his time/effort in NH. Not indicative of other states.


At least Kasich had the balls to make a stand somewhere. Rubio was just gonna wait and hope the dice rolled his way, too bad it looks like he couldn't even do that.

Yep. It looks like he'll barely even finish ahead of Christie here.
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