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On February 10 2016 08:17 GreenHorizons wrote: Looking at the polling places it looks like we are woefully incapable of running this process.
Several polling place have ridiculous lines. Traffic backed up something fierce. This is pretty preposterous. Voting shouldn't take longer than an hour maybe two from sitting in your house and deciding you want to do it.
If suppressing the vote is what we do here we should at least be honest with ourselves about it. The place they just featured on TV anticipated 12k voters, but only got 10K, they had problems anyways because of so many same day registration voters and because an overwhelming % of such voters came late. It would be a fascinating economic question to study. Alas.
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On February 10 2016 09:32 GreenHorizons wrote: Let's go Jim Gilmore! He got 4 votes!
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On February 10 2016 08:50 Cowboy64 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2016 08:26 Plansix wrote: We are a nation that celebrates being a democracy, but why have it be a national holiday? Or at least require folks be let out of work early? Because work ethic is important. Democracy is just another way to organize a society. It does not guarantee a society will be healthy, nor does it confer some moral high-ground by its mere presence. American celebrations of democracy are celebrations of the people, not the system. Also, there are many who feel voting should be made more difficult, not less. Yeah, but those people are normally low rent bigots that just want to hedge out some minority group or the poor. Voting in the US is a right, like free speech and even gun ownership. Voter fraud is a non-existent issue in the US. So the only reason someone would want to make it harder to vote is to repress everyone but but themselves and their "demographic".
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And yet hasn't there been like 5 articles posted about potential voter fraud related just to the Iowa primary.
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I was talking about the legit elections. Mid-terms and the General. Not the party run primary system that barely regulated. If people want to reign that shit in, more power to them. Start with Iowa and work their way down.
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On February 10 2016 10:00 Chewbacca. wrote: And yet hasn't there been like 5 articles posted about potential voter fraud related just to the Iowa primary. lol yes, you can use the very general phrase "voter fraud" to describe those articles and the discrepancies surrounding the Iowa caucuses.
Or, you know, you could actually describe the specifics behind the allegations and realize that they have absolutely nothing to do with the barriers of entry relative to voting.
Then again, don't let the specifics get in the way of your tongue making its way into your cheek
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Trump at 33, Kasich at 17 Bush at 12 Cruz at 11
I don't want to say I'm basically Nate Silver but... 
Yeah, the count isn't nearly done but looks like a lot of us were right about Rubio.
Looks like Sanders is gonna win at the the high end of my estimate of the gap
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On February 10 2016 10:10 ticklishmusic wrote:Trump at 33, Kasich at 17 Bush at 12 Cruz at 11 I don't want to say I'm basically Nate Silver but...  Yeah, the count isn't nearly done but looks like a lot of us were right about Rubio. Looks like Sanders is gonna win at the the high end of my estimate of the gap I need Kasich to go a little down and Bush/Cruz to go up and I'll be nailing it.
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I never put #'s on mine, so you're more or less same as me.
NH too ez
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Well only 12% of precincts reporting so far, so there's plenty of room for numbers to change.
For now it looks like Trunp greatly outperformed my expectations.
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On February 10 2016 10:22 ticklishmusic wrote: I never put #'s on mine, so you're more or less same as me.
NH too ez I have Bush in second. Unfortunately, not happening at this point.
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On February 08 2016 23:19 GreenHorizons wrote: My NH predictions as of now are:
Trump Kasich Jeb/Rubio/Cruz less than 4% separating them Christie Carson/Fiorina
What's funny is we'll still hear at least 4 victory speeches and not sure Hillary is going to speak at all.
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so Carson pretty much drops out after this, right?
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On February 10 2016 10:33 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2016 23:19 GreenHorizons wrote: My NH predictions as of now are:
Trump Kasich Jeb/Rubio/Cruz less than 4% separating them Christie Carson/Fiorina
What's funny is we'll still hear at least 4 victory speeches and not sure Hillary is going to speak at all. That... that's a pretty nice prediction right there.
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On February 10 2016 10:43 Toadesstern wrote: so Carson pretty much drops out after this, right?
He won't drop out until after SC.
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On February 10 2016 10:10 ticklishmusic wrote:Trump at 33, Kasich at 17 Bush at 12 Cruz at 11 I don't want to say I'm basically Nate Silver but...  Yeah, the count isn't nearly done but looks like a lot of us were right about Rubio. Looks like Sanders is gonna win at the the high end of my estimate of the gap
Where is Kasich coming from lol. What happened?
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On February 10 2016 10:50 Deathstar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2016 10:10 ticklishmusic wrote:Trump at 33, Kasich at 17 Bush at 12 Cruz at 11 I don't want to say I'm basically Nate Silver but...  Yeah, the count isn't nearly done but looks like a lot of us were right about Rubio. Looks like Sanders is gonna win at the the high end of my estimate of the gap Where is Kasich coming from lol. What happened? He apparently spent all his time/effort in NH. Not indicative of other states.
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On February 10 2016 10:51 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2016 10:50 Deathstar wrote:On February 10 2016 10:10 ticklishmusic wrote:Trump at 33, Kasich at 17 Bush at 12 Cruz at 11 I don't want to say I'm basically Nate Silver but...  Yeah, the count isn't nearly done but looks like a lot of us were right about Rubio. Looks like Sanders is gonna win at the the high end of my estimate of the gap Where is Kasich coming from lol. What happened? He apparently spent all his time/effort in NH. Not indicative of other states.
At least Kasich had the balls to make a stand somewhere. Rubio was just gonna wait and hope the dice rolled his way, too bad it looks like he couldn't even do that.
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On February 10 2016 10:59 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2016 10:51 The_Templar wrote:On February 10 2016 10:50 Deathstar wrote:On February 10 2016 10:10 ticklishmusic wrote:Trump at 33, Kasich at 17 Bush at 12 Cruz at 11 I don't want to say I'm basically Nate Silver but...  Yeah, the count isn't nearly done but looks like a lot of us were right about Rubio. Looks like Sanders is gonna win at the the high end of my estimate of the gap Where is Kasich coming from lol. What happened? He apparently spent all his time/effort in NH. Not indicative of other states. At least Kasich had the balls to make a stand somewhere. Rubio was just gonna wait and hope the dice rolled his way, too bad it looks like he couldn't even do that. Yep. It looks like he'll barely even finish ahead of Christie here.
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