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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 23:13:53
September 17 2015 23:11 GMT
#46201
Susan B. Anthony was a socialist so I guess that makes Rand Paul a communist.

Someone should just put Huckabee down like the dog he is. His wife. Jesus.

The best answer is Mother Jones.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 17 2015 23:31 GMT
#46202
WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama "strongly opposes" and would veto a pair of House bills that would strip federal funds from Planned Parenthood and impose new restrictions on abortion, the White House said in a statement on Thursday.

The administration said the GOP-backed bills "would have the same consequence of limiting women’s health care choices." The Planned Parenthood bill, in particular, would cut access to health care services for as many as 630,000 people, the Congressional Budget Office estimated Wednesday.

"Planned Parenthood uses both Federal and non-Federal funds to provide a range of important preventive care and health services, including health screenings, vaccinations, and check-ups to millions of men and women who visit their health centers annually," the White House said. "Longstanding Federal policy already prohibits the use of Federal funds for abortions, except in cases of rape or incest or when the life of the woman would be endangered. By eliminating Federal funding for a major provider of health care, H.R. 3134 would limit access to health care for men, women, and families across the Nation, and would disproportionately impact low-income individuals."

The anti-abortion bill, called the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, would impose criminal penalties on doctors who do not try to save a baby who "survives an abortion." The high-profile case of Kermit Gosnell, who was convicted of murder in 2013 for killing infants born alive after illegal late-term abortion procedures, garnered massive outrage, but there is no documented evidence of legal, regulated abortion clinics slaughtering live newborns. The landmark Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade only legalizes abortion before the fetus would be able to survive outside the womb, around 22 to 24 weeks of pregnancy.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23946 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 23:40:41
September 17 2015 23:36 GMT
#46203
Donald Trump's Q&A in NH was informative. The first question pretty much sums it all up.

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-18 00:44:37
September 18 2015 00:43 GMT
#46204
Muslims make Scientologists look reasonable

I like the part where the audience blasts carly


User was temp banned for this post.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 18 2015 00:51 GMT
#46205
Word that Americans throw away about one-third of our available food has been getting around.

Now there's an official goal aimed at reducing that waste.

Today, the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the Environmental Protection Agency — along with many private-sector and food-bank partners — announced the first ever national target for food waste.

"[We're] basically challenging the country to reduce food waste by 50 percent by the year 2030," Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack tells The Salt.

Currently, Vilsack says, an estimated 133 billion pounds of food is wasted each year. And if that's hard to fathom, picture this: "It's enough to fill the Sears Tower [technically now called the Willis Tower] 44 times," Vilsack says.

As for who's responsible? Well, pretty much everyone who eats.

We consumers let a lot of food wilt or go sour in our refrigerators. And we may toss out items when they pass their sell-by dates — even though the food is still safe to consume.

On farms, there's a lot of waste generated — as we documented in this story about lettuce grown in California — when food not quite up to cosmetic standards isn't harvested. Often times, food also ends up in landfills because it won't stay fresh long enough to be shipped across the country.

Restaurants and grocery stores generate a lot of waste, too.

There are a lot of initiatives already underway to address food waste. For instance, the Food Recovery Challenge at the EPA is helping food manufacturers and grocers donate more food.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 18 2015 00:56 GMT
#46206
Trump super bigot. Compares a religion of 1.6 billion to a cult created by a con-artist. Literal human garbage.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
September 18 2015 01:12 GMT
#46207
On September 18 2015 09:56 Plansix wrote:
Trump super bigot. Compares a religion of 1.6 billion to a cult created by a con-artist. Literal human garbage.

There was a man from Nazareth that the fools at war perverted by forging an image of his flesh to brand on mugs and t-shirts and they say one day he will spring to life to smile and clear your name.
Have faith
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45887 Posts
September 18 2015 01:19 GMT
#46208
On September 18 2015 09:43 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Muslims make Scientologists look reasonable


You're joking right?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 18 2015 01:55 GMT
#46209
On September 18 2015 10:12 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 09:56 Plansix wrote:
Trump super bigot. Compares a religion of 1.6 billion to a cult created by a con-artist. Literal human garbage.

There was a man from Nazareth that the fools at war perverted by forging an image of his flesh to brand on mugs and t-shirts and they say one day he will spring to life to smile and clear your name.
Have faith

Not in bigots, which Trump is.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 18 2015 02:08 GMT
#46210
I wonder how we'd all do in a debate. Of course I wouldn't be in a Republican debate;
I assume I'd get ratings around like Rand Paul (low and boring).
There's no time pressure for what we do on the forum of course, so easier to think of a good response.
Of course, that's one of the flaws in the system, most of the time president's don't need to think fast, they need to think smart, and there's time, and lots of supporting staff, to help work things out.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45887 Posts
September 18 2015 02:17 GMT
#46211
On September 18 2015 11:08 zlefin wrote:
I wonder how we'd all do in a debate. Of course I wouldn't be in a Republican debate;
I assume I'd get ratings around like Rand Paul (low and boring).
There's no time pressure for what we do on the forum of course, so easier to think of a good response.
Of course, that's one of the flaws in the system, most of the time president's don't need to think fast, they need to think smart, and there's time, and lots of supporting staff, to help work things out.


It depends on the topics and questions! I'd do better in a debate about education than I would about foreign policy.

For example, we'd all probably do better than most of the Republican candidates if we were simply asked to name. a. fucking. famous. American. woman.

Or, like, are vaccines generally helpful.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 18 2015 02:42 GMT
#46212
I really hope that guy in that 1st question was just using hyperbole....I mean he can't really believe that Obama is not an American and a Muslim. Not that him being a muslim would be a bad thing if it were true. And holy shit was he talking about "training camps" here in the US? Lol plz.
Never Knows Best.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45887 Posts
September 18 2015 02:46 GMT
#46213
On September 18 2015 11:42 Slaughter wrote:
I really hope that guy in that 1st question was just using hyperbole....I mean he can't really believe that Obama is not an American and a Muslim. Not that him being a muslim would be a bad thing if it were true. And holy shit was he talking about "training camps" here in the US? Lol plz.


Unfortunately, there is a non-zero number of Americans who think Obama is a foreigner/ Muslim/ etc.

Trump has been a huge advocate of those ridiculous lies, especially as the face of the birther issue for a while.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
September 18 2015 02:49 GMT
#46214
On September 18 2015 11:42 Slaughter wrote:
I really hope that guy in that 1st question was just using hyperbole....I mean he can't really believe that Obama is not an American and a Muslim. Not that him being a muslim would be a bad thing if it were true. And holy shit was he talking about "training camps" here in the US? Lol plz.


I think he was just a troll trying to see how whacko Trump would go and hoping to bait out an insane soundbite. It sounded like he was holding back laughter, especially at first.

Trump's waffling didn't give him what he wanted though.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 18 2015 02:51 GMT
#46215
Yes.

A clock - that's all it was. But for 14-year-old Ahmed Mohamed from Texas, the simple homemade invention got him arrested when he took it to school. Officials thought Mohamed had a hoax bomb.

Since the world found out about Mohamed's case, he has had a mass outpouring of public support, with US President Barack Obama inviting him to the White House.
In this online special, Mohamed tells Mehdi Hasan that this happened to him because he is Muslim.

"There is a lot of stereotypes for people who are foreigners and they have...names mainly in Islam," Mohamed says.

Mohamed also says the flood of support he has received shows that people care. "…Not just because I’m a Muslim boy. For every person who’s different," Mohamed says. "It's not just Muslims who go through this…We're all human in the end."


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-18 02:59:00
September 18 2015 02:58 GMT
#46216
On September 18 2015 11:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 11:42 Slaughter wrote:
I really hope that guy in that 1st question was just using hyperbole....I mean he can't really believe that Obama is not an American and a Muslim. Not that him being a muslim would be a bad thing if it were true. And holy shit was he talking about "training camps" here in the US? Lol plz.


Unfortunately, there is a non-zero number of Americans who think Obama is a foreigner/ Muslim/ etc.

Trump has been a huge advocate of those ridiculous lies, especially as the face of the birther issue for a while.


didn't Trump try to sue like Maehler or someone for wanting proof that donald trump wasn't born to a Orangutan as a response to Trump's birther comments (which he refused to quit on for a very long time)?
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45887 Posts
September 18 2015 02:59 GMT
#46217
On September 18 2015 11:58 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 11:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 18 2015 11:42 Slaughter wrote:
I really hope that guy in that 1st question was just using hyperbole....I mean he can't really believe that Obama is not an American and a Muslim. Not that him being a muslim would be a bad thing if it were true. And holy shit was he talking about "training camps" here in the US? Lol plz.


Unfortunately, there is a non-zero number of Americans who think Obama is a foreigner/ Muslim/ etc.

Trump has been a huge advocate of those ridiculous lies, especially as the face of the birther issue for a while.


didn't Trump try to sue like Maehler or someone for wanting proof that donald trump wasn't born to a Orangutan.


Yeah Bill Maher lololol

"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23946 Posts
September 18 2015 04:20 GMT
#46218
On September 18 2015 11:42 Slaughter wrote:
I really hope that guy in that 1st question was just using hyperbole....I mean he can't really believe that Obama is not an American and a Muslim. Not that him being a muslim would be a bad thing if it were true. And holy shit was he talking about "training camps" here in the US? Lol plz.


The majority of the Republican party thinks he is either foreign born or are not sure (same for the Muslim thing). It's not hyperbole, it's most of the modern Republican party.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
September 18 2015 07:29 GMT
#46219
So many good answers to the American Woman...Maria Mayer, Rosa Parks(given), Helen Keller

I wouldn't choose Susan B Anthony because she's already been on money. Abigail Adams was a reasonable answer, but I wouldn't choose her. Possibly someone from the abolition movement like Lucretia Mott.

But to be fair...I think keeping the same people on money is fine, but it would be a bit more interesting if they just printed a full set of $1, $2, $5, $10, $20, $50, and $100 notes one year with all women and then returned to the norm. It would be a great opportunity to broaden the awareness of the contributions of a plethora of women.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 18 2015 07:33 GMT
#46220
Helen Keller also a socialist.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
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